Litlos Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Dubai ? Kids, the Red Bull family are long time democrats; big business, natch. As such they prefer Taiwan as a base when fleeing to avoid prosecution or waiting out troublesome statute of limitations. You are 100% correct about Taiwan, and that would be my guess where junior has gone. As for supporting the Dems 100%, maybe not so correct. Try any other Thai/Chinese with any political connections. They are in it for themselves and not others, and I know there are links back to the Shins from Chiang Mai. And no, I will not be expanding on that statement. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Next week he will be the new Senior Vice-President for Red Bull America, based in New York. Since he will not have a boss to report to, should make his job very easy. I thought when you are on trial for causing the death of another person, your passport is taken to stop you from fleeing? Pretty sure they take the passport from a farang charged for a similar offense, but such petty and insulting rules clearly do not apply to the hiso elites.... Just as well he didn't sink an unsinkable jet ski....... The first thing they do is confiscate your passport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This may turn out like Chalerm's youngest son - who also allegedly murdered a cop and fled. Also; in both cases, there were no other suspects. The Red Bull heir stays away for awhile. The mega-rich dad has discussions with judge and top cops. When a cushy enough deal is made, the kid comes back, and the sappy Thai public is supposed to think: "Oh, he sat beside his mother and wai-ed, he must be really sorry. Let's forgive him." Thai women will think, because he's handsome and mega-rich, that anything can be forgiven. Plus, in a country so mired in superstition, Thais will believe that it must have been the policeman's time to die, and nothing could have changed that. In other words, it was pre-destined to happen, so why cry over spilled milk? The coke-head driving 90 miles an hour in a 25 mph zone, who smashed the cop on his windshield, was merely playing his role in the karmic dance. The fact that he appears to be making a run for it shows that they have been informed by the authorities that he will inevitably go inside. Next is to be able to sentence people in absentia and that really would be progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I wonder if this affair will effect Red Bull's status in F1. This guy & the family are a disgrace thinking a paltry sum of money (by their standards) can buy them redemption in the eyes of the general public yet I also wonder how many F1 fans around the world actually know of this story. As most members are aware, here in Thailand the drink is known as Krating Daeng. The real power rests with Dieter Mateschitz, the Austrian entrepreneur who modified the Thai version and turned the drink into a #1 seller.. Few people outside Thailand know of Krating Daeng as a name and associate Red Bull with F1 and western companies. It's the same as Torro Rosso in Italy. I reckon little Worachai (Wotaguy) has fled and is now ensconced in a 5 star hotel somewhere near Monza Italy, waiting for next weekend's race and a chance to rub shoulders with Luca di Montezemolo and tell him that he's a member of the Red Bull family in Thailand but prefers to drive a Ferrari and is there a seat available at the Firm?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 He is no doubt winging his way to a classy residence his grandfather owns. Maybe if his and the rest of the families assetts were frozen he may return. Red Bull = Bull Shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUNJU Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Wasn't this expected all along, run and hide money keeps u safe forever! Go to China and live forever!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Everyday happening, My large waste bin was stolen by a well to do neighbour, another good neighbour said do not report him or he will have the police kill you. Thanks ginjag, that comment gave me the best laugh I had all day ! For some sick reason, the thought of you being "whacked" over a garbage can really cracked me up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 If he isn't convicted of speeding, then he was not speeding. The negligent homicide case will fall apart because it was just an 'accident' and not caused by his negligence of speeding. Since they seemed to have dropped the alcohol and cocaine intoxication from the list, then speeding is the only factor to prove negligence. As for failure to render aid, he can claim he thought he hit a wombat or something. This young man needs to be proven negligent. This is my non-legal background opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arkady Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 BANGKOK: -- Attorney-General Chulasingh Vasantasingh has ordered the prosecution of Red Bull heir Vorayuth Yoovidhya on three counts, including speeding, for the hit-and-run accident that killed a policeman. Hmm The Nation, really can accounts of speeding ever come before manslaughter?? <deleted>! There is no manslaughter charge. In fact there is no direct equivalent in the Thai penal code as far as know but causing death through recklessness would be the closest. The drug charge and the driving while under the influence of cocaine and alcohol have already been dropped for the appropriate payment and nothing more than probation will happen to him for the other charges. Thailand offers the best justice money can buy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Adds a whole new meaning to the Red Bull Slogan: "Red Bull Gives You Wings To Fly" (As long as Grand Daddy picks up the Tab.) Maybe the poor cop "Flew" too, when run under by a speeding Red Bull Car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 He is no doubt winging his way to a classy residence his grandfather owns. Maybe if his and the rest of the families assetts were frozen he may return. Red Bull = Bull Shit "residence his grandfather owns.".......in another country, it's good to have reciprocal rights for land ownership huh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobelcat Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I still don't understand this. Why does someone need to be present in order to be charged with a crime? In Western countries, people can be charged with a crime, and even convicted, without ever showing up in court. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalen Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Interesting case indeed. I personally dont think he will go to jail. Too rich, we are talking billions. They will think of something. Perhaps it wasn't him in the first place. There are new witnesses that somebody else was driving and he was actually at home the whole time. Sent from my GT-I9190 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwindiBoy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Now that he's an overseas fugitive, he can send faxes to the PTP House Speaker instructing him on what policies are allowed to be tabled and passed in the Thai government. For a price of course Moreover, will he be driving whilst overseas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwindiBoy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Cmon guys... seriously, if you where in his shoes, you would have skipped the country too... The crux is that he shouldn't have been in a position to make that choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Do Thai people even EXPECT such elite people will face/should face the same or even similar consequences as the masses? I think that wouldn't be Thainess. I think you are right. They expect elite, rich, hiso, connected people to be above the law. The "law' such as it is, is not meant for the higher echelons. Mention this case to Thais and they just shrug. Completely expected outcome and they don't seem to care about doing something about it. I have one friend who used to say that if someone pissed her off she could drive her car over them - and nothing would happen to her! This attitude pervades all levels of society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I still don't understand this. Why does someone need to be present in order to be charged with a crime? In Western countries, people can be charged with a crime, and even convicted, without ever showing up in court. This ain't the West, doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Of course nothing of any consequence will happen to him.....He is rich, from a good family, has already paid 3 million to the family. The legal system will make noises, so it can bee seen to be doing it's job.......but .....the population will shrug it's shoulders and move on, probably dreaming that one day they could be in such a position. No one will petition a court, complain to their MP, seek a judicial review or anything that may expose them to the rich or powerful. Thailand is bound by the culture of "kreng jai" Which is .....to be respectful of those that have more than you .......because they have more than you. Stop the hand ringing and get over it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Aren't passports withheld when on bail? Not if you belong to the richest family in Thailand, it isn´t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 Aren't passports withheld when on bail?Not if you belong to the richest family in Thailand, it isn´t. Ah yes, I kerp forgetting, we're in Thailand, common sense and the rule of law don't apply here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjmmi Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 BANGKOK: -- Attorney-General Chulasingh Vasantasingh has ordered the prosecution of Red Bull heir Vorayuth Yoovidhya on three counts, including speeding, for the hit-and-run accident that killed a policeman. Hmm The Nation, really can accounts of speeding ever come before manslaughter?? <deleted>! Yes, The editor would have been informed how to word that particular list of crimes. That paper is a complete joke even by Asian standards. Thailand's I big joke . . . . . full stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwindiBoy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 More than 20 years ago, my ex and her sister left me completely speechless/stunned when talking about a similar situation. Rich kid, caught with serious drugs, if I remember rightly. They said he should not go to jail. Why? Because he's handsome and comes from a rich family. He shouldn't be treated like a common criminal, poor guy. (that was the gist of their argument, anyway) If the average person believes that, then what hope is there? That is not my experience. Most thai people I know are disgusted with this sort of thing but are resigned to it. Being resigned to it is pretty much the same as accepting it. Nobody has the ambition to make it better, so they don't bother, i.e. they accept it. The same lethargy simply does not exist in civilised countries, where the spirit of the people leads to (sometimes forced) improvements. What a sad state of affairs Thailand's moral compass is in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briboy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Interesting case indeed. I personally dont think he will go to jail. Too rich, we are talking billions. They will think of something. Perhaps it wasn't him in the first place. There are new witnesses that somebody else was driving and he was actually at home the whole time. Sent from my GT-I9190 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app that being the case lets hope he gets pinched for driving under the influence of alcohol and coke + a couple of others, then you can bet your left it will be head lines world wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 Interesting case indeed. I personally dont think he will go to jail. Too rich, we are talking billions. They will think of something. Perhaps it wasn't him in the first place. There are new witnesses that somebody else was driving and he was actually at home the whole time. Sent from my GT-I9190 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Wouldn't surprise me to hear on Monday that the police have found witnesses verifying that the car was actually being driven by a ghost. At least that would give the Thai people something they could believe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 If Red Bull Boy had simply fessed up, hung around the scene, or turned himself in, this story would have been history. At least, if he had taken any responsibility, people might have cut him some slack. He could have paid off the family, done some rehab, showed remorse, and probably got a suspended sentence because of his stellar previous record.But, his total disregard has put everyone in a bad situation.Hopefully, as I implied earlier, his flight tells us that his attorneys have gotten wind of some bad news for the boy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briboy Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Interesting case indeed. I personally dont think he will go to jail. Too rich, we are talking billions. They will think of something. Perhaps it wasn't him in the first place. There are new witnesses that somebody else was driving and he was actually at home the whole time. Sent from my GT-I9190 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app that being the case lets hope he gets pinched for driving under the influence of alcohol and coke + a couple of others, then you can bet your left it will be head lines world wide. sorry, thought I was replying to post #135??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaninbangkok Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 red bull boycott, anyone? maybe to get the message across? a little social change for thailand through civil disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleythedog Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 He knows this will come to a head this weekend. So, he leaves the country. Can this be a sign that things aren't going his way? Yep,another one off to Dubai !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinrada Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 24 hours is a long time for the credibility of the Thai Justice System/Government....still optimistic Government has promised ASEAN that they are serious about dealing with the levels of CORRUPTION (don't la...)anf if this guy does not show in 23 hours and 48 minutes time ...then a BIG LOSS of FACE for a Government.... so prun-nee is another wan...init.....go on Bob sing the song again.....Don't like Mon....... Reuchai Krairerk, a senior expert public prosecutor at the department, said that Chulasingh ordered prosecution on three counts to take place first to avoid any damage stemming from the statute of limitations expiring on the speeding charge."We have thus asked Police to bring Vorayuth to Bangkok South Criminal Court on September 2 for the prosecution," Reuchai said.He said that if Vorayuth failed to show up at the court on that day, prosecutors would seek an ARREST warrant for him and have him prosecuted on two other counts.Reuchai said the two other counts were more serious - reckless driving causing death and failure to stop the vehicle and get out to help the victim.He said Vorayuth's lawyer insisted that the suspect would return to meet with public prosecutors on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I may have missed it but I haven't seen a report on which country this guy went to. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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