NeverSure Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Best wishes and a speedy recovery. Glad to hear you keep your NHI current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted September 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2013 We've all got our problems, Lord knows I've got mine but NTR I feel for you man. It can't be easy for you lugging all that spite and envy around. Hell that weight of head problems could twist a man for life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Sigh @ NeverToReturn. There is always one. If you must know, I have a residence in the U.K. and I pay my dues on that too, so get off you pathetic high horse and go grump about your life and ideals elsewhere. I take it you've been declaring your money earned in Thailand to the UK govt for the last 9 years, have you <deleted>! Look you've pissed it up and ate too much crap by your own account, now you want others to pay the bill, thats how it is if we're going to be brutally honest about it. If he *has* been 'having it both ways', he certainly isnt the only one on TV - I hear what you're saying, but I'm not about to kick the guy when he's clearly down. For all we know, he could be dead within weeks of arriving back in the UK - let's cut the guy some slack. I could get bent out of shape about the Aussie who has been living in SE Asia on the disability pension for decades, while I dragged my miserable carcass into an office each day, but all that does is drag my mood down. Loosen up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxme Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Sigh @ NeverToReturn. There is always one. If you must know, I have a residence in the U.K. and I pay my dues on that too, so get off you pathetic high horse and go grump about your life and ideals elsewhere. I take it you've been declaring your money earned in Thailand to the UK govt for the last 9 years, have you <deleted>! Look you've pissed it up and ate too much crap by your own account, now you want others to pay the bill, thats how it is if we're going to be brutally honest about it. If he *has* been 'having it both ways', he certainly isnt the only one on TV - I hear what you're saying, but I'm not about to kick the guy when he's clearly down. For all we know, he could be dead within weeks of arriving back in the UK - let's cut the guy some slack. I could get bent out of shape about the Aussie who has been living in SE Asia on the disability pension for decades, while I dragged my miserable carcass into an office each day, but all that does is drag my mood down. Loosen up I'm curious... so according to you two nimwits, someone returning from abroad shouldn't be allowed to use the benefits they already paid for (via tax)? If he is still a resident and has an account in his home country, then he is still obligated to pay tax, so far I don't see an issue other than some childish remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 It is unfortunate that the thread took a turn for negative. As much as I agree with some comments considered unpopular, I do wish for a recovery of the chap. Lord knows it could be me next. I still have a bad head cold and for all I know it could be parasitic beasties burrowing their way through my sinus tissue..... Get well soon and should you have the strength, i counsel a change of venue to Hua Hin. It is where people go to enjoy life , while living a wholesome life. Perhaps there is no cider, but by jingo, they do have apple juice at Tesco. Pattaya is what puts people near the edge, Rawai is where they go to wait to die, Issan is where you go to get lost. Hence, Hua Hin is the place to be. Although, you might consider Cha Am, as it is filled with Pattaya condo towers and lots of old people. Hua Hin is where the the hip 70-90 year olds go to boogie, and let me tell you, nothing can beat an exciting game of lawn bowling........ Fortunately, you still have all your marbles and are able to make your own decisions and get the help needed. Despite whatever issues may exist, you are in better shape than some who don't have the option. Chok dee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 maxme, do you really want to get into this ? Or would you prefer to just wish pattayadingo a speedy recovery ? I'm hoping its the latter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 We've all got our problems, Lord knows I've got mine but NTR I feel for you man. It can't be easy for you lugging all that spite and envy around. Hell that weight of head problems could twist a man for life. He must have big shoulders to carry a chip that size. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 We've all got our problems, Lord knows I've got mine but NTR I feel for you man. It can't be easy for you lugging all that spite and envy around. Hell that weight of head problems could twist a man for life. He must have big shoulders to carry a chip that size. No...empty head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene123 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I can't say I know all there is to know about taxes, but countries with a form of public medical care get their funding through all forms of taxation. Canada, the UK, Australia and New Zealand are good examples. I believe Sweden is similar and also has one of the highest taxation rates in the world. The system is good for the basics, but falls a little short for intermediate procedures that are not life threatening. Many Canadian physicians go south of the border where they can earn a lot more money. The USA. has a different system where people have to purchase private medical insurance. It works very well for the wealthy who can afford it and for those with business or union contracts that supply a medical plan. They receive the best treatment in the world but comes at a very high price. US medical costs and dental are the highest in the world and greatly over charge for everything. As a Canadian in Thailand I would have to pay more for medical insurance than I would just to pay a Thai hospital or doctor, so it is just not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 We've all got our problems, Lord knows I've got mine but NTR I feel for you man. It can't be easy for you lugging all that spite and envy around. Hell that weight of head problems could twist a man for life. He must have big shoulders to carry a chip that size. No...empty head. Noooooooooo, if we lads were called to arms again, he would be a conscientious objector for sure. Sorry OP, but I woke up this morning thinking about a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 ... Sorry OP, but I woke up this morning thinking about a post. That's an interesting turn of phrase, but I'm not sure this is the sort of thread for discussing the state in which you wake up... this is a family forum, after all SC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 ... Sorry OP, but I woke up this morning thinking about a post. That's an interesting turn of phrase, but I'm not sure this is the sort of thread for discussing the state in which you wake up... this is a family forum, after all SC Whilst nursing this bloody Dengue fever there is only one type of post in the frame, a written one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I signed off from my home country so i pay less tax on my pension, the downside is if i go back, i have to stay there for 6 months before the state will sponsor with health cost, rental cost etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxme Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 maxme, do you really want to get into this ? Or would you prefer to just wish pattayadingo a speedy recovery ? I'm hoping its the latter. MWW, get into what? I said it was unnecessary to call OP a leech, well not directly but that's what I meant .Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 But I dont recall calling him a leech, or inferring that he was - I simply agreed in principle that *if* he was in any way 'rorting' the system, he wasnt the only one on TV in that position. End of the day, this is just keystrokes in cyberspace - the OP appears to have real health issues and surely its more important that he get that fixed than for us to question his moral compass after so many years in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StreetCowboy Posted September 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2013 But I dont recall calling him a leech, or inferring that he was - I simply agreed in principle that *if* he was in any way 'rorting' the system, he wasnt the only one on TV in that position. End of the day, this is just keystrokes in cyberspace - the OP appears to have real health issues and surely its more important that he get that fixed than for us to question his moral compass after so many years in Thailand.I think any man that stays six years in Thailand without jeopardising his moral compass has been wasting his time 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Actually i do feel like i have wasted my time here, on top of my money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 A lot of expats whinge about having to pay taxes or should be entitled to services at home etc.. Yet they live in Thailand pay no taxes( retired) , don't contribute to the infrastructure, roads, police,electricity on the streets etc that they use here in Thailand.. Of course the guy should be allowed to go home and use the services available in his home country..(. But many will sympathize with ntr views). There are so many inequities about.. I pay income tax in the uk on income derived there but haven't lived there for years. My daughter was born there, but is classified as an overseas student for university fees.. Above all health should be readily available, whatever your life style or circumstances...makes a real argument for compulsory insurance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Where i come from it is a compulsory insurance, tax funded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirstymelb101 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Best of luck on your future endeavors..I hope you do return soon, not if, but when you recover from your health issues..Regards,Kirsty x0x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpofc Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Dear Pattaya Dingo, It is the one thing I probably fear the most. I feel for you, I hope things turn out for the best in The Old Dart and you do a Douglas MacArthur and return soon. My Thai friends often ask me about this subject. What I would do. I try not to think about it. In all sincerity I wish you good luck mate. I am confused though, being a 'Pom', why does your 'nick' have the word Dingo in it? Also, is your Avatar indicative of your reasons for having to return? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 A lot of expats whinge about having to pay taxes or should be entitled to services at home etc.. Yet they live in Thailand pay no taxes( retired) , don't contribute to the infrastructure, roads, police,electricity on the streets etc that they use here in Thailand.. I dunno, if someone has worked back home for 20-30 years, barely used the NHS yet paid NI in all that time, I think they're entitled to feel entitled. I'd also wager the average farang drops more into the system here than the average Thai (whether they pay tax or not). Look at the frequency of Thais caught without road tax for a start... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 A lot of expats whinge about having to pay taxes or should be entitled to services at home etc.. Yet they live in Thailand pay no taxes( retired) , don't contribute to the infrastructure, roads, police,electricity on the streets etc that they use here in Thailand.. I dunno, if someone has worked back home for 20-30 years, barely used the NHS yet paid NI in all that time, I think they're entitled to feel entitled. I'd also wager the average farang drops more into the system here than the average Thai (whether they pay tax or not). Look at the frequency of Thais caught without road tax for a start... I am not disagreeing. I think they should get health care also because we have been brought up to believe that it is free for uk citizens so you can't just change the rules, regardless if people want to live abroad and regardless of contribution. The average Thai has very little..and car tax is negligible, foreigners use services everyday to which they have not contributed, even using local hospitals with limited resources...think of that from a Thai perspective. Anyway health is an issue many seem to dismiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 So you moved the argument from people going back for treatment to old people being euthanized regardless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'm going to hijack this thread and take it to Cuba.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 No one suits to get seriously ill. Look I have a lot of sympathy for some of your views, but you just can't change the rules on an older generation like your dad.. Maybe focus on those who cheat the system, companies and individuals who avoid taxes etc..not on the little guy whose impact on entitlements is negligible. Anyway..this topic has gone pass Cuba.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Come on NtR, tell us what your previous username was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Come on NtR, tell us what your previous username was. I believe he has left us (again). At least I will sleep tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) Guest House, i read your comments and you are often remark about people who go back to Britain after a long period away and expect the welfare state to sort out their problems. Why the change of heart? No change of heart at all.My point of view is, and always had been, expats who moan about the UK and in particular the 'Nanny State' should keep in mind that it is to the UK and the 'Nanny State' they will return if their life overseas goes to rat <deleted>. Serious illness and returning for treatment on the NHS is one such example. I absolutely support their right to do so, both as a point of opinion and by means of the taxes I pay. I simply make a point of reminding them when they are whinging about the old country. And you know how I feel about the old country don't you?! Edited September 3, 2013 by GuestHouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) It progressed when i mentioned about the 80 year old getting 18 months nursing home care costing 1000's per week. I just love the way these people who live abroad avoiding tax all of a sudden become big govt. socialists when it suits. ํYou work hard and pay taxes when you are young in the expectation of being cared for when you are old. Does it matter where you live when you are old? I think not. They should still provide the care you paid for when you were young. Edited September 3, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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