Abhisit unapologetic for 'stupid bitch' remark

[EvilDrSomkid]

i ngoh does not mean stupid bitch. It means (rude particle) stupid.

That's it.

However, I am surprised and disappointed that he said this. I don't understand what the Dems are trying to achieve with their

tantrum antics.

[geriatrickid]

Mr. Abhisit is walking on thin ice when he resorts to insulting the PM. It is a political blunder because the comment will accomplish the following;

1. Reinforce the public impression that the Democrats are desperate.

2. Encourage sympathy for the PM, especially from women, a demographic the Democrats do not do well with. Many professional families have daughters who are taking over the family business. The PM has made strong inroads with this segment of the Thai business class.

3. Encourage comments to bubble up in respect to Mr, Abhisit's lack of masculinity, including his entourage of "purples". The comment comes off as "catty".

4. Cause an unnecessary distraction from the issues at stake, and we will now be treated to a sideshow arising from Mr. Abhisit's inability to conduct himself in a civil manner.

5. He will be reminded of the fact that despite all of his advantages, he was still beaten by the "airhead" woman.

In polite Thai society, one does not make such comments in public. He comes off as low class and a sore loser.

The clock is ticking on the man who was unable to win the office of PM by way of a general election victory. He's a lame duck leader now.

[kiwikoppy]

i ngoh does not mean stupid bitch. It means (rude particle) stupid.

That's it.

However, I am surprised and disappointed that he said this. I don't understand what the Dems are trying to achieve with their

tantrum antics.

It indeed does not meet bitch, however it might be even worse.

The word E is placed in front of anything, to make it super rude and resembles things like adding <deleted>**ing in front of a word.

Calling someone named Jane (just an example name) E Jane, means something like <deleted>**ing Jane.

You can also put it in front of an adjective, making it even stronger and turning the combination into a noun.

So saying E stupid, is like saying: you <deleted>**ing stupid thing. (where <deleted>**ing and Thing can be changed to any rude word you can come up with.

So there is no immediate translate for the word E, just that it makes everything rude.

It is often used within groups of friends when they call each other, but the meaning really depends on the tone that was used

But certainly not used in politics.

P.s. calling someone you don't know or are not really friends with E xxx, would likely result in getting a beating.

So maybe Bitch is not the exact correct translation but it is quite accurate, and I am sure he meant it that way (wasn't there to hear his tone though)

And whether you or anyone else thinks she is what he said, he should not have said it in public, and probably, as thats how t goes here, he will receive a lawsuit for defamation (all those comedy cases they have here :-) )

p.s. moderator sorry for the F words, but I am just trying to explain.

Edited September 10, 2013 by kiwikoppy

[geriatrickid]

That's why his party can't win a majority in Thailand. He is too honest.

No. Too inept and unable to connect with the electorate. The Democrats are so useless that they have handed the government to the PTP.

[jalansanitwong]

Theyre both wearing watches that would take many Thais 10 years wages to buy. TIT

[Sayonarax]

Nothing Tony Abbott didn't say to Julia Gillard.

Yingluck all you do is whine and moan... Wah, there saying mean things to me... GROW A PAIR

[15Peter20]

I remember a while ago reporter Nick Nostitz telling us here on TV that Abhisit's general demeanor at Dem rallies was becoming more belligerent and rude, whilst to the foreign press he continued with his more polished persona.

This article would seem to back up what Nick said.

Just when we thought the Dems couldn't sink any lower. Very sad to see for Thai politics.

Edited September 10, 2013 by 15Peter20

[rijb]

So, we have a highly educated politician using a derogatory term for women, to the delight of the media.

How smart is that for a so-called leader of the democrats? Is this a new, clever strategy to appeal to women voters?

Sometimes, people forget how powerful words can be and don't realize the effects and ramifications. This stupidity could come back to haunt him.

PS: People use derogatory terms to put down and dehumanize others so they themselves can feel better. Is it working for you guys?

[mrtoad]

He certainly got the stupid bit spot on, the bitch bit, well it may never have been said.

[boomerangutang]

literal meanings of 'bitch'

- a female dog which is not a pure-breed

- a woman who complains often

many of those reading this, and many Thais have one or both in their houses, who they feed, talk to, go on walks with, and purport to adore.

Should female dogs be offended? Dogs have character traits which are head and shoulders above humans. For starters, they don't torture their own species, mentally and physically, and they don't self-debilitate themselves with bottomless worry, which most humans do. Shall I elaborate further?

[TomTao]

He hasn't said anything that is not said by members of the public, the PMs regular absenses from parliment and apparant disconnection/disinterest with anyone not directly allied with the family and it's affairs is a talking point and a growing point of contention amongst some people down south of the families immediate area of influence.

[Nickymaster]

Mr. Abhisit is walking on thin ice when he resorts to insulting the PM. It is a political blunder because the comment will accomplish the following;

1. Reinforce the public impression that the Democrats are desperate.

2. Encourage sympathy for the PM, especially from women, a demographic the Democrats do not do well with. Many professional families have daughters who are taking over the family business. The PM has made strong inroads with this segment of the Thai business class.

3. Encourage comments to bubble up in respect to Mr, Abhisit's lack of masculinity, including his entourage of "purples". The comment comes off as "catty".

4. Cause an unnecessary distraction from the issues at stake, and we will now be treated to a sideshow arising from Mr. Abhisit's inability to conduct himself in a civil manner.

5. He will be reminded of the fact that despite all of his advantages, he was still beaten by the "airhead" woman.

In polite Thai society, one does not make such comments in public. He comes off as low class and a sore loser.

The clock is ticking on the man who was unable to win the office of PM by way of a general election victory. He's a lame duck leader now.

Abhisit is just saying but many are thinking. He is angry that this country is being destroyed by this useless lady. He will be liked for that. The one walking on thin ice is the unqualified hypocrite PM who is running away from her responsibilities again. Thailand is in a really bad shape with loads of problems and the PM ran away from them (again).

[Nickymaster]

Smart move by Mr. Abhisit. He learned from those PT guys how to wake up and motivate the people. As long as there is truth in his statements it will positively affect his popularity.

Remember that around 40% of this country hate Thaksin and Yingluck. Looking at some latest local election results and the fact that Thailand is currently sinking like a rotten ship, Abhisit will come out stronger. One day the Thai people will be in need of somebody to clean up the mess that PT is leaving behind while they plunder this country.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Nickymaster

[pilm]

If he was as clever as her, he'd still be PM. Poor little fella is just jealous.

[Nickymaster]

If he was as clever as her, he'd still be PM. Poor little fella is just jealous.

You think Yingluck is clever? Please explain why you think that.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Nickymaster

[AleG]

It´s alright, Yingluck overcomes all criticisms three times.

But pretty stupid thing to say of Abhisit anyway.

[chooka]

Sounds like he is still pissed at her for having the DSI charge him with murder.

[Ianatlarge]

That "stupid bitch" defeated him in an election. So what does that make him?

[15Peter20]

Smart move by Mr. Abhisit. He learned from those PT guys how to wake up and motivate the people. As long as there is truth in his statements it will positively affect his popularity.

Remember that around 40% of this country hate Thaksin and Yingluck. Looking at some latest local election results and the fact that Thailand is currently sinking like a rotten ship, Abhisit will come out stronger. One day the Thai people will be in need of somebody to clean up the mess that PT is leaving behind while they plunder this country.

"Remember that around 40% of this country hate Thaksin and Yingluck."

To counter this clearly loaded statement I feel it in the best interests of balance to now remind the TV readership that 60% of this country love Thaksin and Yingluck. I'll prove mine if you prove yours....

[midas]

WOW ! when the the former Prime Minister of Australia, Julia Gillard accused Tony Abbott of being a misogynist, I don't think he had said anything half as bad as that

Edited September 10, 2013 by midas

[EyesWideOpen]

That "stupid bitch" defeated him in an election. So what does that make him?

A person with less money in his account to pay for vote buying ????

It certainly is interesting to see Abhisit take the gloves off, and say

what many posters have already said here about her. But she is

large irrelevant, as the country is really being run by Thaksin. So any

actions by her just sort of make her a laughing stock, without her

actually doing any harm to the country. But these shopping trips

are getting a bit ridiculous.

Nero fiddling while Rome burned........

[FarangTalk]

That's why his party can't win a majority in Thailand. He is too honest.

If he was honest, he wouldn't have Suthep anywhere near him, nor would he have done a deal with Newin.

Actually it is their bitter medicine policies enacted by Abhisit's mentor Chuan Leekpai during his corruption toppled governments of the late 90's that led to neglect in the poorer rural areas that nailed the lid shut on their coffin a long, long time ago.

Now it is their support of the continued military-backed old regime against the new wave of populist politicians like Thaksin that is holding them back.

Their support of the PAD protests, illicit backing of the military coup, confrontations with Cambodia over the Khmer Hindu temple Preah Vihear and the human rights abuses of the Rohingya have ensured they remain unelectable for the foreseeable.

Throwing chairs in parliament and name-calling is all they really have left in the bank until the military step in on behalf of you-know-who again.

Thais want change and PTP are by no means a good choice but there really is no other option for them at the moment. They know a vote for the Democrats is a vote against that change.

[hellodolly]

It might be true but I'm sorry to see him resort to that level of name calling, it's a sure sign the battle is lost.

Or the battle is about to begin in seriousness.

[pookiki]

Thailand has done precious little to protect and elevate the status or women in Thai society. Just read the want ads for 'traditional' female jobs. Most of them read 'female, college degree, age 24-29'. Is a woman over the age of 29 unsuitable for the job market in Thailland? And what about laws to protect women whose husbands have left or abandoned them? Ever hear of the notion or concept of 'child support' or 'alimony' in Thailand? Maybe that is one reason why 'sin sot' lives on. It is a form of social welfare because of irresponsible Thai males. Ironically, if one were to look at the presence of women in the workforce, I would think that the percentage in the positions below the 'executive' level is very high. But there is no 'job security' in Thailand and very few jobs that have a 'career ladder'. If you have had the opportunity to talk to a lot of female workers, you will find that they are working for 'subcontractors' on contracts that have to be renewed every six months or on an annual basis. No wonder so many women would prefer to open their own shop or noodle stand. At least they have some control over their career.

Edited September 10, 2013 by pookiki

[Minhoang]

"Woman" or "bitch"? These are 2 very different words. The one who mixed up these two is the stupid one!

[nami]

What a disgrace of a foreign educated elite. Talking that way only puts him at the same (maybe even lower) level as the ones he criticizes.

It is funny so many posters like him and his party and hate PTP. Just a quote from Wikipedia:

"Abhisit's government saw unemployment increase by 63 percent.^[67] Thailand's government budget went into deficit for the first time since 2003. By 2010, the government's debt had bloomed and reached -4.8% of GDP, the largest budget deficit since the government of Chuan Leekpai.^[68] To help the people, Abhisit subsidized the price of diesel, LPG cooking gas, and household electricity. Public bus and train rides were provided for free.^[69]

Large-scale fighting erupted several times between Thai and Cambodian troops near Preah Vihear, leaving dozens dead. The Thai military admitted to using cluster munitions in the conflicts. The Southern Thailand insurgency worsened, and Abhisit's government was condemned by several international human rights groups for the routine and systematic torture of suspected insurgents.^[70] Thailand's military budget reached its highest level in over a decade.^[71]

Abhisit's information and communications technology (ICT) policy included increased censorship of Internet sites the government considered deemed offensive to the monarchy, cancellation of 3G 2.1 gigahertz spectrum license auctions, and larger budgets for government-owned TOT."

Not exactly what I call a good mandate. And forget about calling me pro Thaksin because I detest many of the things under his mandate and also think he should be in jail. Politicians here are a big fat joke same as in every country, but here they bring the meaning to a new level.

[jpeg]

That "stupid bitch" defeated him in an election. So what does that make him?

A person with less money in his account to pay for vote buying ????

I do wish this 'everyone was paid to vote PT' was put to bed once and for all. Yes of course people were given a little er, 'incentive' to turn out to vote. But the vast majority of rural poor (not all. I know of some who vote Democrat in the North/East), thought their lives might at last actually improve under the PT whereas the Democrats had done nothing for them, ever. And no, as I've stated before, I'm a no fan of either colour. They should try to find a third alternative. Good luck to them with that under the present system.

And on topic, he didn't say the word 'bitch', from that which I see reported here, anyway.

Edited September 10, 2013 by jpeg

[longway]

Thailand has done precious little to protect and elevate the status or women in Thai society. Just read the want ads for 'traditional' female jobs. Most of them read 'female, college degree, age 24-29'. Is a woman over the age of 29 unsuitable for the job market in Thailland? And what about laws to protect women whose husbands have left or abandoned them? Ever hear of the notion or concept of 'child support' or 'alimony' in Thailand? Maybe that is one reason why 'sin sot' lives on. It is a form of social welfare because of irresponsible Thai males. Ironically, if one were to look at the presence of women in the workforce, I would think that the percentage in the positions below the 'executive' level is very high. But there is no 'job security' in Thailand and very few jobs that have a 'career ladder'. If you have had the opportunity to talk to a lot of female workers, you will find that they are working for 'subcontractors' on contracts that have to be renewed every six months or on an annual basis. No wonder so many women would prefer to open their own shop or noodle stand. At least they have some control over their career.

In fact thailand has one of the highest rates of women in managerial roles in the world, well above places like australia, usa and uk.

[pookiki]

This says it all!!

http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=522c2d67150ba07c3700009c#.Ui6hqD8m0VI

[Just1Voice]

Whatever the translation, Since he apologized, the intent was clear.

You might want to go back and read the OP. He REFUSED to apologize.