webfact Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 PM Yingluck pleads with lawmakers to approve Bt2.2 trillion loans billBy English NewsBANGKOK, Sept 19 – Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra today reemphasised the need to borrow Bt2.2 trillion for Thailand’s infrastructure development, but insisted that her government will not dissolve Parliament if the bill is rejected.The bill for Bt2.2 trillion in loans was slated for parliamentary debate for its second reading this morning.She said the country’s infrastructure has lagged for several decades and the bill on Bt2.2 trillion loans is vital to stimulate investment and the economy.“The government promises to maintain monetary and financial discipline, and the spending is within the framework of public debt requirement,” she said.She said the government is willing to take the Opposition’s points of view into consideration and that the Opposition would be allowed to fully debate the bill.“I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” she said. Ms Yingluck has been criticised for failing to attend most sessions of Parliament.The prime minister said it would be unnecessary for the government to dissolve Parliament in case the bill was rejected by lawmakers since it was a bill to seek loans for development and investment.Deputy Prime Minister/Finance Minister Kittirat Na-Ranong insisted that the bill to borrow Bt2.2 trillion was in accord with the law, and not a breach of the Constitution, explaining that the government has carefully studied the bill and discussed it with the Council of State.“The bill is significant to the country’s development. Those seeking a review by the Constitution Court should thoroughly study the law and bear in mind the importance of the national interest,” he warned.He said he would be willing to explain every detail of the bill to the House of Representatives. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-09-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gl555 Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 “I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” And that sums up the idiot this country has as a PM. A 2.2 trillion loan and she'll attend IF Hermes doesn't bring in something new. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 It would appear the PM is under severe pressure from above to resort to this kind of unseemly begging. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcore Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Speechless......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeMaiDee Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemonjelly Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 need it to pay for the rice scheme..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra???600 Billion Baht minimum in necessary managerial investigations to ensure the investment is made wisely.Not bad for a day's work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Pleads? Is that accurate reporting/translating? She said the government is willing to take the Opposition’s points of view into consideration . . . . . . and will then completely ignore anything they suggest or asked for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 Methinks the puppet master his family and their brown nosing acolytes are demanding their pounds of flesh, debts are mounting and their pocket money isn't as abundant as it was. Coupled with a certain amount of political and financial uncertainty in the not too distant future Yingluck is being ordered to show she is in charge however people know she is acting under the puppet masters strict orders Just think if a window in time opened and the Three stooges could return they would be reformed as The Four Stooges with Yingluck taking the female lead role and the puppet master as their agent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Sheer lunacy, but logic is not practised in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra??? 30% tea money plus 40% big brother, not much left to do much good better if we spend it all We all need new cars and a few planes to get around the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Noistar Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra???30% tea money plus 40% big brother, not much left to do much good better if we spend it all We all need new cars and a few planes to get around the country If my Thai wife is typical, money is spent when its there, no regard for it being needed for something else.Ummm 10,000 baht in the bank, what shall I spend it on? Next week, please can I have 5,000 baht for the rent, loan etc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkgriz Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 PM Yingluck pleads with lawmakers to enrich her family and acolytes. There, headline fixed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabel Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) “I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” And that sums up the idiot this country has as a PM. A 2.2 trillion loan and she'll attend IF Hermes doesn't bring in something new. Was there even 1 person attending that meeting ....?? the whole place loks quite empty to me or do I need new glasses .... Is she really there in one of the top seats .... can't see a bloody thing in that pic...??? Edited September 19, 2013 by annabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It would appear the PM is under severe pressure from above to resort to this kind of unseemly begging. Indeed. The cash is wanted and already "allocated". She must deliver or things might get difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra???30% tea money plus 40% big brother, not much left to do much good better if we spend it all We all need new cars and a few planes to get around the country If my Thai wife is typical, money is spent when its there, no regard for it being needed for something else.Ummm 10,000 baht in the bank, what shall I spend it on? Next week, please can I have 5,000 baht for the rent, loan etc Same here mate. My wife had a "budget" for some minor roof repairs, changes to the garden, block paving, additional fencing etc. Spent 3.5 times the agreed budget. Answer - well it needed doing, the builder suggested it, it looks nicer now! After an awkward conversation - she actually went and spent a bit more. Well it needed the finishing touches! Every non-Thai I know has similar tales about their wives and money - regardless of where they come from in Thailand, background, education, upbringing etc. They all have the same short term thinking and want to spend money quick before relative asks to "borrow" it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 whats her families cut of the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggles Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 let them spend their alleged humungus foreign currency reserves instead ,before monk negkham gets his grubby hands on it . actually monk nengkham could prolly broker a deal with his mystery benefactors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggles Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra???30% tea money plus 40% big brother, not much left to do much good better if we spend it all We all need new cars and a few planes to get around the country If my Thai wife is typical, money is spent when its there, no regard for it being needed for something else.Ummm 10,000 baht in the bank, what shall I spend it on? Next week, please can I have 5,000 baht for the rent, loan etc Same here mate. My wife had a "budget" for some minor roof repairs, changes to the garden, block paving, additional fencing etc. Spent 3.5 times the agreed budget. Answer - well it needed doing, the builder suggested it, it looks nicer now! After an awkward conversation - she actually went and spent a bit more. Well it needed the finishing touches! Every non-Thai I know has similar tales about their wives and money - regardless of where they come from in Thailand, background, education, upbringing etc. They all have the same short term thinking and want to spend money quick before relative asks to "borrow" it. my mates wife borrowed a large sum from UK banks to rebuild her folks home back in LOS before she buggered off with a Frenchman ,the banks are still chasing her for payment in France and not having much luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 The whole world and a lot of people living on it are TRYING to get out, of huge amounts of debit,and heres Thailand wanting to join them,why do people never learn from there mistakes,was 1997 that far in the past. For some reason ?,this government is determined to bring the country to its knees,mountains of rice ,expensive rice,and they are going to do the same with rubber, then to want to take on a vast amount of debit that will be bled away,and most likely never deliver the projects it was borrowed for in the first place! just unbelievable. regards worgeordie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbob Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 whats her families cut of the deal? 2,200,000,000,000 x 0.3 = 660,000,000,000 Baht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Noistar Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 The whole world and a lot of people living on it are TRYING to get out, of huge amounts of debit,and heres Thailand wanting to join them,why do people never learn from there mistakes,was 1997 that far in the past. For some reason ?,this government is determined to bring the country to its knees,mountains of rice ,expensive rice,and they are going to do the same with rubber, then to want to take on a vast amount of debit that will be bled away,and most likely never deliver the projects it was borrowed for in the first place! just unbelievable. regards worgeordie I think you realise you've answered your own question.Thainess does not include a concept of 'learning from their mistakes'. From my wife I get the continual indoctrination that Thailand does things a particular way and cannot be changed. The fact that my (ignored) input frequently turns out to be right, does not change her view that change is not relevant to Thailand. Deep breath, count to 10 - scream! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 2.2 Trillion Baht?? for what?? let the people see the budgeting... Who the heck dreamed up this number...Does it include the 30% tea money or is that extra???30% tea money plus 40% big brother, not much left to do much good better if we spend it all We all need new cars and a few planes to get around the country If my Thai wife is typical, money is spent when its there, no regard for it being needed for something else.Ummm 10,000 baht in the bank, what shall I spend it on? Next week, please can I have 5,000 baht for the rent, loan etc Same here mate. My wife had a "budget" for some minor roof repairs, changes to the garden, block paving, additional fencing etc. Spent 3.5 times the agreed budget. Answer - well it needed doing, the builder suggested it, it looks nicer now! After an awkward conversation - she actually went and spent a bit more. Well it needed the finishing touches! Every non-Thai I know has similar tales about their wives and money - regardless of where they come from in Thailand, background, education, upbringing etc. They all have the same short term thinking and want to spend money quick before relative asks to "borrow" it. I assume your term 'awkward conversation' covers an 'exchange of views'.They won't listen, they're always right, it's their country (why did you come here?) I sometimes wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted September 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2013 PM Yingluck pleads with lawmakers to approve Bt2.2 trillion loans bill Why does she need to plead? Don't they all have the same boss? She said the country’s infrastructure has lagged for several decades Her brother was PM 2000 - 2006 and I don't remember him wanting to borrow this kind of money for infrastructure. The government promises to maintain monetary and financial discipline 55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 oops, I think I hurt myself laughing. She said the government is willing to take the Opposition’s points of view into consideration and that the Opposition would be allowed to fully debate the bill.“I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” she said. Ms. Yingluck has been criticized for failing to attend most sessions of Parliament. 55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 stop it, you're killing me. This is just tooooooo funny. I had no idea what a comedienne the PM is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 “I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” And that sums up the idiot this country has as a PM. A 2.2 trillion loan and she'll attend IF Hermes doesn't bring in something new. Farcical isn't it ? This loan is supposedly absolutely necessary so the government can carry forward so many wonderful plans to improve the country yet the PM can only attend if she doesn;t have something else to do. With her abysmal record of non-attendance in parliament and various committees that she actually chairs I can only assume " other obligations " means yet another overseas trip. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Will 2.2 Trillion be enough? Once everyone fills their pockets and buys the new mercs for the sons and cousins there wont be much left to build anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Will attend if I am not out spending my cut f the 2.2 trillion baht loan This bill is necessary so ye PTP families and friends can be rich beyond there dreams forever and a day Then if they win the next election ... they will want a 5 trillion bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Will attend if I am not out spending my cut f the 2.2 trillion baht loan This bill is necessary so ye PTP families and friends can be rich beyond there dreams forever and a day Then if they win the next election ... they will want a 5 trillion bill lWhen they win the next election, there ought to be no 'checks and balances' left, so they won't have the tedium of justifying spending/loans etc. - just go out and do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It is a countries obligation to improve on their infrastructure. I agree in principle that this bill needs to be passed, it is just unfortunate that it has happened to come necessary just as the country has entered a recession. Just based on observations, it is very possible that Thailand will be down in a third consecutive quarter, confirming the recession. In one way, it is tough to vote yes on this bill during this time, and on the other hand it could become a jobs bill to turn the economy back around. I say go ahead with it. This country has an obligation to improve their road and train systems to their citizens, and it takes money to do that. Do you want to become a Singapore, with improvement, or be a Myanmar? (No offense to Myanmar, just an example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 “I’ll attend the parliamentary deliberations if I’m not engaged in other obligations,” = Let me check my shopping schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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