Are some guys really naive?

[Tmymaimee]

I'm not sure this has ever happened to you but let's say you become friends with a "massage" girl or some other service provider. You get to know her a bit and she quite happily begins sharing your bed. Once or twice a day you hear her phone ring and some guy from Europe is telling her how much he loves her and misses her. She's just smiling at you about this joke as you can hear everything. She treats him with complete contempt and he is nothing more than a provider of a monthly 20,000 baht payment.

Now I could just dismiss this as a 1 time thing but I have seen it time and time and time again. A girl in Koh Samui with her Austrian boyfriend, yesterday with someone who had a British guy calling up during the act, and so on and so on.

All these girls smile when he calls and they just seem to think its one big joke and seem to have zero commitment or loyalty to their partner. I understand all this as that's their choice and have no issue with this.

What I fail to understand is how these guys can be so stupid? Do they have no idea what she is doing day in and day out? Do they really think sending money every month and visiting 2 - 3 times a year is a genuine relationship? And why are they so desperate to maintain this relationship instead of just meeting a girl in their own country who they can be together every day?

I never know a Thai man that would send money to a foreign girl every month just so he can sleep with her a few times a year. Why this desperation for what amounts to nothing?

[scobie redux]

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[kurnell]

Very few Thai men give money to their girlfriends full stop, hence the huge amount of single mothers in Thailand with children living with their parents on the farm.

[A1Str8]

I believe those girls laugh because deep inside they know that about themselves that they are nothing else but a big joke. Besides the simple reason, many men do it and support them from overseas is because they are dumb, ignorant and desperate to find someone who loves them, without understanding the point that these things(dont deserve the title: women) are only after their money.

[metisdead]

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[GirlDrinkDrunk]

I believe those girls laugh because deep inside they know that about themselves that they are nothing else but a big joke. Besides the simple reason, many men do it and support them from overseas is because they are dumb, ignorant and desperate to find someone who loves them, without understanding the point that these things(dont deserve the title: women) are only after their money.

no misogyny issues here, move along.

she must have really hurt you mate, how could you have been so stupid.

well you have my pity, thank you for demonstrating how badly damaged you are.

you are in good company though, there are many before you who have believed others less than human based on race or gender.

have you considered growing a moustache?

[GinBoy2]

OMG, old men giving money to pretty young women....now that NEVER happens in farang land lmao

[scobie redux]

Very few Thai men give money to their girlfriends full stop, hence the huge amount of single mothers in Thailand with children living with their parents on the farm.

I'm sorry, but that is nonsense. Putting aside the fact that it sounds like a generalized view of Thailand based on interactions limited to bar girls and Nana Plaza beer dens, the vast majority of Thai families are exactly the same as those in the west, with fathers working to support their families and children.

Of course there are rogues and bad'uns. How is that any different to the west, where whole government departments have been established to track down and hold run-away fathers financially responsible for the kids they bring into the world.

[Songhua]

These are shocking revelations. Thanks for bringing it to the fore, OP.

[oogster8]

Girls can differentiate between work (sex) and love. For some odd reason many farangs just cant! You really cant blame the girls, why shouldnt they take money thrown at them.... it is funny!

[A1Str8]

I believe those girls laugh because deep inside they know that about themselves that they are nothing else but a big joke. Besides the simple reason, many men do it and support them from overseas is because they are dumb, ignorant and desperate to find someone who loves them, without understanding the point that these things(dont deserve the title: women) are only after their money.

 

 

no misogyny issues here, move along.

 

she must have really hurt you mate, how could you have been so stupid.

 

well you have my pity, thank you for demonstrating how badly damaged you are.

 

you are in good company though, there are many before you who have believed others less than human based on race or gender.

 

have you considered growing a moustache?

None of what you ve written holds any truth or makes any sense.

I have no problem with females, I actually love them and have a lot of respect for them. But I have no sympathy for people who try to advance by taking away from others..regardless of gender.

But your smart comment was greatly appreciated.

[GinBoy2]

Girls can differentiate between work (sex) and love. For some odd reason many farangs just cant! You really cant blame the girls, why shouldnt they take money thrown at them.... it is funny!

I think women in general, thai or farang can do that, its men who cant differentiate when the 'little' brain takes over

[soomak]

Very few Thai men give money to their girlfriends full stop, hence the huge amount of single mothers in Thailand with children living with their parents on the farm.

I'm sorry, but that is nonsense. Putting aside the fact that it sounds like a generalized view of Thailand based on interactions limited to bar girls and Nana Plaza beer dens, the vast majority of Thai families are exactly the same as those in the west, with fathers working to support their families and children.

Of course there are rogues and bad'uns. How is that any different to the west, where whole government departments have been established to track down and hold run-away fathers financially responsible for the kids they bring into the world.

Differences from the west are vast.

Where I come from the vast majority of separated dad's maintain a relationship with their children and pay child support without argument.

A small minority don't have money to pay, or try to avoid paying, and don't want anything to do with their kids.

In addition, the governments in the west actually try to find these non-paying dad's and get the money out of them.

In Thailand, most single mothers don't have any contact with the fathers, get no child support, and don't even bother to approach the authorities, as they don't believe it would help.

[kotsak]

GinBoy2, on 26 Sept 2013 - 13:10, said:

oogster8, on 26 Sept 2013 - 12:59, said:

Girls can differentiate between work (sex) and love. For some odd reason many farangs just cant! You really cant blame the girls, why shouldnt they take money thrown at them.... it is funny!

I think women in general, thai or farang can do that, its men who cant differentiate when the 'little' brain takes over

[jackr]

What surprises me is how you can decipher a Euro or British accent from someone else's phone call... are you like clairvoyant or summat?

[Paangjang]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

[transam]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps you are being suckered in some way too. I think so.

[Paangjang]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps you are being suckered in some way too. I think so.

Not at all. she never cost me a buck. I had my fun then off i went to Thailand. You can look at it like i made $12,000 out of the filipina or the Swedish guy. Either way, i did alright out of it....

[Wavefloater]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

You obviously don't believe in the old adage "What goes around, comes around." Of course it refers to creating bad karma for yourself. Don`t you fear that this might come back (in a karmic fashion) to bite you in the a$$ some day?

[scobie redux]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Congratulations. You were supported by your girlfriend's boyfriend. You must be very proud.

TV has a new role model.

[Briggsy]

The OP has not factored how desparate and lonely for sex and recognition by a female many men are. This drives them to make stupid decisions despite the fact the rational part of their brain knows what they are doing is stupid. This rational thinking is actively suppressed by the desparation.

[MrHammer]

What I find naive is thinking that a girl who will openly disrespect and scam a sponsor, will somehow treat you any differently when a better catch comes along. You know, monkey branching. Or do you think that you are so special that a girl who has no qualms about scamming will not leave you in the dust later on? Several years on, I don't find these things funny or intriguing anymore, I find it straight up repulsive.

[Paangjang]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Congratulations. You were supported by your girlfriend's boyfriend. You must be very proud.

TV has a new role model.

What were we supposed to do, tell him to stop sending the money? Ahh well he stopped now anyway.

[transam]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps you are being suckered in some way too. I think so.

Not at all. she never cost me a buck. I had my fun then off i went to Thailand. You can look at it like i made $12,000 out of the filipina or the Swedish guy. Either way, i did alright out of it....

I think you miss my point totally. You and your lady are a disgrace. You and her rip off a guy. You think it won't now happen to you by this lady?

End of story. I digress.

[scobie redux]

What were we supposed to do, tell him to stop sending the money? Ahh well he stopped now anyway.

Well, yes actually. If you had any pride or self-respect, of course.

[Paangjang]

There was a time when i lived in the Philippines. Me and my girlfriend were being supported by her ex. We were being western unioned $2000 per month by this fella! Went on for over a year. We split the money 50/50 and saved it up. I was earning a good wage, as we she. Plus we got this $1K per month coming in! We were living really well. He arrived at our house one night.... Poor fella was heartbroken, on the next flight off the island. Shame, we enjoyed the extra cash....

Sucker

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, perhaps you are being suckered in some way too. I think so.

Not at all. she never cost me a buck. I had my fun then off i went to Thailand. You can look at it like i made $12,000 out of the filipina or the Swedish guy. Either way, i did alright out of it....

I think you miss my point totally. You and your lady are a disgrace. You and her rip off a guy. You think it won't now happen to you by this lady?

End of story. I digress.

This was years and years ago. She never took a penny from me. We still chat from time to time. She now lives in China and i landed a sweet position here in LOS.

[h90]

that is a design problem of the male body.

There is not enough blood to operate brain and private parts at the same time.

[transam]

@ Paangjang

Probably a job ripping farangs off eh. Sheeeesh.

Edited September 26, 2013 by transam

[hanno]

What I find naive is thinking that a girl who will openly disrespect and scam a sponsor, will somehow treat you any differently when a better catch comes along. You know, monkey branching. Or do you think that you are so special that a girl who has no qualms about scamming will not leave you in the dust later on? Several years on, I don't find these things funny or intriguing anymore, I find it straight up repulsive.

My thoughts exactly.

As this thread is not being closed I am trying to understand the OP's motives. Are you trying to tell us that you are able to find a woman without paying? Or are you so much smarter than everybody else. Your post baffles me, to say the least.

And I agree with MrHammer: a girl that scams people for a living is not suddenly become a saint because you came along.

[ttthailand]

Why does this happen? Because guys fall in love with the wrong type of ladies. Any lovely lady who has been sleeping with men for money will have guys keeping in contact with her. If she is really really lovely there is a good chance she will have a few sponsors. They lie like crazy or just won't speak if the question is asked concerning these matters.

If you are stupid enough to sponsor a girl at least make it a requirement for her to answer her phone and video chat 24/7 . If she not willing to comply neither should you.

The best advise is to never date a bar girl or any lady who you have to pay to be your gf. There is a really good chance that there are only in it for the money.