Daily payscale in Thailand

[DeeMockMark]

To the OP.

You are not paying the caddys salery! You are giving him/her a tip on top of the salery from the golfclub at 300 baht/round. 2 rounds a day in highseason is 30.000 a month, with a couple of days of. So you don't have to feel sorry for them!

Btw. The numbers posted by cpofc in post# 7, are old numbers. It is (or should be) 300 in all provinces now.

Is your math correct? 300 per round twice a day = 600 times 30 days with a few days off does not equal 30000 a month???? Am I missing something? Just curious.

[stoli]

Thailand minimum daily wage is set by province

Effective April 1, 2012 the minimum daily wage in Thailand as set by Thailand’s Employment Committee No. 6 is:

• Bt 300 –– Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn

• Bt 273 –– Chonburi

• Bt 269 –– Chachoengsao and Saraburi

• Bt 265 –– Ayudhya

• Bt 264 –– Rayong

• Bt 259 –– Ranong

• Bt 258 –– Phang-nga

• Bt 257 –– Krabi

• Bt 255 –– Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi

• Bt 254 –– Lopburi

• Bt 252 –– Kanchanaburi

• Bt 251 –– Chiangmai and Ratchburi

• Bt 250 –– Chantaburi and Petchburi

• Bt 246 –– Songkhla and Singhburi

• Bt 244 –– Trang

• Bt 243 –– Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong

• Bt 241 –– Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew

• Bt 240 –– Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram

• Bt 239 –– Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani

• Bt 237 –– Nakorn Nayok and Pattani

• Bt 236 –– Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai

• Bt 234 –– Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani

• Bt 233 –– Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen

• Bt 232 –– Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn

• Bt 230 –– Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu

• Bt 229 –– Nakornpanom

• Bt 227 –– Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen

• Bt 226 –– Tak and Surin

• Bt 225 –– Nan

• Bt 223 –– Srisaket

• Bt 222 –– Payao

It is my understanding that this was only during the transitional phase of raising the minimum wage. On January 1, 2013, the entire country went to a minimum wage of 300 baht a day. Unfortunately, it is very often ignored.

[DeeMockMark]

My understanding is that the standard working week as per Labour department regulations is 48 hours per week i.e. 6 day week. This would be for formal employment where the employer is paying social security payments (5% of standard salary up to a max of 750 baht). Unfortunately a lot of Thai companies flaunt these regulations and appear to get away with it. If it is a Farang owned (49% anyway) company as is ours then you would try this at your peril as the Labour department would be onto you immediately as someone would be bound to make a complaint.

For my staff, monthly salaries vary from 13,000 baht/ Month for trades assistants and drivers etc, around 19,000 for tradesman and around 25,000 for a supervisor. They work a 48 hour week for the basic salary then 1.5x for mid week overtime and 2x for Sundays. 7 days holiday per year, 3 days personal leave and a "reasonable" amount of sick leave. On top of this they get a bonus at the end of the year that depends on company performance but is generally a minimum of 1 months salary. Employees paying the social payment above get a medical card which gives them pretty much free medical in a nominated hospital.

Before the usual "your overpaying them, Thais are lazy" critics start posting. My guys all give a solid days work and appreciate the conditions they have. We have never had an employee quit , although I have sacked a few. The same goes anywhere in the world. If you take care of your staff , they will take care of you. Those that don't appreciate that are usually the one that don't last long with me.

As I am planning to open a business myself in the future- i have been wondering what to pay my workers. This helps and also gives a little insight into costs. Thx.

[DeeMockMark]

Official rate 300 baht/day. Normally two or four days off in a month, typically a month pay is 8,000 baht plus social security. Some times a bonus or paid overtime on top. However in some branches the pay is much higher, like tourist area restaurants typically between 12,000 and 15,000 (or more) a month including tips etc. and often some kind of free accomodation. Self employed, like taxi drivers, can make quite good money, if they wish to work for it. Specialist jobs, for example a (good) chef, can also pay quite well people making 20,000 or 30,000 a month is not unsual.

Good info. Thx. Especially about specialist jobs.

I was already thinking about in that range.

Edited October 8, 2013 by DeeMockMark

[moonseeker]

A couple of interesting links here:

http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0132a.pdf

http://www.kellyservices.co.th/uploadedFiles/Thailand_-_Kelly_Services/4-Resource_Center/White_Papers_and_Reports/Thailand%20Salary%20ebook%202013-14.pdf

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[EveryDayTheSame]

F**CK all, because they didn't turn up for work!......(sound familiar?)

[h90]

The village construction laborers ask 250 baht per day, trades-men that use special tools or act as lead man make 450 baht a day., I normally pay 300 baht per job and 500 baht to tradesmen.

When working in the rice fields workers make 200-250 baht per day. work day is normal day time hours.

One poster stated that Thai's did not work 7 days a week "is wrong" they do , 7 days a week 12 hours a day and usually one day off per month.

Most unskilled workers in Pattaya, are paid 250 Baht per day, I would guess it would be up to 300 baht per day now, the wife worked a Mike's Shopping Mall, in sales 7 days a week from 11 AM to 11 PM with one day off per month, she was allowed two more days off per month which required her to pay 250 per extra days off..

In the village all members of the family work and pool the money together for the families needs.

Cheers:.

I gladly give you our phone number...please explain my staff that they now have to work 3 more hours and 2 more days per week.

8AM-5PM. Monday-Friday is for us and all other companies I know the regular working time.

Everything else is paid as Overtime. Some open Saturday with half the staff and others think it is too expensive. So we can order from some of our domestic supplier on Saturday and not from others.

I don't know a single one that opens on Sunday. And never any of my staff came on Sunday. Sunday they stay with the family.

Friends of us are rubber farmer. They start in the night and come back in the morning...after 5-8 hours...no way of 12 hours.

[keith101]

I would think it's a bit low.

Maids in BKK might take 300 baht for a visit, which takes 2 hours or less.

And if this caddy can't find 2 jobs a day, he will be making less then the minimum daily wages.

I would give him 400-500, considering it's his daily earnings, and it's really not that much for me (and for you I'm guessing).

caddies always get a monthly or daily wage depending where you are plus what ever they get from the players so dont need to pay them over the top like your doing .

[bocceball1]

A "number" of people make 500,000 or 1,000,000 or 5,000,000 baht a month.

Your right....a number of people do!...Lets see what it is ....as indicated earlier by a government minister ......only 2.3 million people pay taxes.

Of that 60,000 pay at the highest bracket (37%....and that's people making over 4,000,000).....NOW in that highest bracket there are only 2,400 people who make more than 10 million baht......a whole whopping .00004 of the Thai Population.

So yes there are a "number " of people its just not that many

[Muhendis]

We have some old timers in the village, well passed their sell-by date, who are quite content to do a few hours field labouring for a bottle of that totally unpalatable stuff they drink instead of whisky. Others (building workers) will only work for the minimum wage + beer at the end of the day. Highly skilled technicians will negotiate for considerably more based on the law of supply and demand.

[h90]

My understanding is that the standard working week as per Labour department regulations is 48 hours per week i.e. 6 day week. This would be for formal employment where the employer is paying social security payments (5% of standard salary up to a max of 750 baht). Unfortunately a lot of Thai companies flaunt these regulations and appear to get away with it. If it is a Farang owned (49% anyway) company as is ours then you would try this at your peril as the Labour department would be onto you immediately as someone would be bound to make a complaint.

For my staff, monthly salaries vary from 13,000 baht/ Month for trades assistants and drivers etc, around 19,000 for tradesman and around 25,000 for a supervisor. They work a 48 hour week for the basic salary then 1.5x for mid week overtime and 2x for Sundays. 7 days holiday per year, 3 days personal leave and a "reasonable" amount of sick leave. On top of this they get a bonus at the end of the year that depends on company performance but is generally a minimum of 1 months salary. Employees paying the social payment above get a medical card which gives them pretty much free medical in a nominated hospital.

Before the usual "your overpaying them, Thais are lazy" critics start posting. My guys all give a solid days work and appreciate the conditions they have. We have never had an employee quit , although I have sacked a few. The same goes anywhere in the world. If you take care of your staff , they will take care of you. Those that don't appreciate that are usually the one that don't last long with me.

We pay a bit less, but it is a 5 day week and less hours and Saturday is paid extra. All get every month a bonus for work performance, the office some money calculated on the total companies turn over. The production some money calculate on the produced turn over (which is different as we have trading products and products we produce ourself).

So my bet is, that we pay almost exactly the same as you do.

7 day holiday: do you mean the public holidays or additional 7 days?

Thais are lazy...certainly not. But many are less efficient on the beginning.....try to make what they were told without finding was to optimize it themself. But as our production people are also in contact with the customer, they get to understand the customers point of view and show a responsibility I don't see in the west.

Finish a job in the evening without writing down the overtime, because they told the customer it will be ready in the morning.....From my European suppliers you only get a "we are sorry" email if they went home at 5PM instead finishing the job...

So it is different than in the west. You have lazy and active people here and there. You have smart and stupid here and there.

[sometimewoodworker]

The current salary for picking field corn where I live is 2 baht/kilo. A good picker can make 500 baht in half a day. No golf courses or taxis here for a comparison! My wife charges 20 - 25 baht for a meal in her "restaurant".

I've just finished a project the single expert welder worker asked for 300 baht for himself and 200 for his wife. We agreed and he was very happy with the arrangement.

The project was about 4 months work for him. The one point was that it was about 50 meters from his house.

He was usually at work by 7am and finished about 5 or 6pm with about an hour for lunch. The job has turned out a very nice one though the time was a lot more than we expected

Edited October 8, 2013 by sometimewoodworker

[smotherb]

What is the ordinary day pay for Thai people?

Do you assume "Thai people" describes a working class? Sort of a "Thai people" = clerk at 7/Eleven and caddy and food vendor?

Yes, it does appear our TV forum posters only know lower income Thais. An 'ordinary day pay' may more refer to a minimum wage than average wage, but an average is the better way to determine living standards. I have several Thia friends who are well-educated professionals or who own their own businesses--not B20/meal roadside stands. A thorasic surgeon friend makes well over B7M annually--not a great deal by Western standards--but it serves him well in Southern Thailand. So, the average salary has to consider those Thias who are upper middle-class or wealthy, those who make enough to live on a scale comparable to Westerners. Look around you at the nice houses, cars, pick-up trucks and Harleys. There is money here.

[nongsangcity]

Had the pleasure of teaching a fine young man English at my local school.....top of his year in most subjects....went to khon kean uni for 5 years on an engineering course.....passed the course top of his year....got a job with Toyota in chon buri as an engineer , they liked him so much that he is now on the design team ( office job) rate of pay......for 8 hours a day....300 bht.....if he works 12 hour shift he can earn 500 bht a day....

[Iamemjay]

Anybody who thinks that the irrelevant laws passed in Bangkok have any application to or acceptance by people here in the far North are seriously deluded.

The pay rate here for farm workers, massage workers etc etc is still 200B per day. Even if the government is not smart enough to work it out, the farmers here have correctly concluded that none of them can afford the 300B without increases to their returns (and these have decreased if anything) so it is only sensible to continue as if BKK does not exist - which is the case with most of the ridiculous laws emanating from there.

[ebcal]

To the OP.

You are not paying the caddys salery! You are giving him/her a tip on top of the salery from the golfclub at 300 baht/round. 2 rounds a day in highseason is 30.000 a month, with a couple of days of. So you don't have to feel sorry for them!

Btw. The numbers posted by cpofc in post# 7, are old numbers. It is (or should be) 300 in all provinces now.

30,000 / month for caddies? 2 rounds / day? What course is that at? That is more than many office workers, so I cant believe that is true.

I have not seen that at the courses I have been to. The courses I have been to, they have hundreds of caddies. I often ask them how often they go out and the ones I have asked have all said they go out maybe 3-4 times / week. So, I would say most barely get by and probably struggle to get by.

[Bcgardener]

My understanding is that the standard working week as per Labour department regulations is 48 hours per week i.e. 6 day week. This would be for formal employment where the employer is paying social security payments (5% of standard salary up to a max of 750 baht). Unfortunately a lot of Thai companies flaunt these regulations and appear to get away with it. If it is a Farang owned (49% anyway) company as is ours then you would try this at your peril as the Labour department would be onto you immediately as someone would be bound to make a complaint.

For my staff, monthly salaries vary from 13,000 baht/ Month for trades assistants and drivers etc, around 19,000 for tradesman and around 25,000 for a supervisor. They work a 48 hour week for the basic salary then 1.5x for mid week overtime and 2x for Sundays. 7 days holiday per year, 3 days personal leave and a "reasonable" amount of sick leave. On top of this they get a bonus at the end of the year that depends on company performance but is generally a minimum of 1 months salary. Employees paying the social payment above get a medical card which gives them pretty much free medical in a nominated hospital.

 

Before the usual "your overpaying them, Thais are lazy" critics start posting. My guys all give a solid days work and appreciate the conditions they have. We have never had an employee quit , although I have sacked a few. The same goes anywhere in the world. If you take care of your staff , they will take care of you. Those that don't appreciate that are usually the one that don't last long with me.

 

We pay a bit less, but it is a 5 day week and less hours and Saturday is paid extra. All get every month a bonus for work performance, the office some money calculated on the total companies turn over. The production some money calculate on the produced turn over (which is different as we have trading products and products we produce ourself).

So my bet is, that we pay almost exactly the same as you do.

 

7 day holiday: do you mean the public holidays or additional 7 days?

 

Thais are lazy...certainly not. But many are less efficient on the beginning.....try to make what they were told without finding was to optimize it themself. But as our production people are also in contact with the customer, they get to understand the customers point of view and show a responsibility I don't see in the west.

Finish a job in the evening without writing down the overtime, because they told the customer it will be ready in the morning.....From my European suppliers you only get a "we are sorry" email if they went home at 5PM instead finishing the job...

So it is different than in the west. You have lazy and active people here and there. You have smart and stupid here and there.

7days annual leave after 12 months working. We also give 13days of the public holidays as is required by government but we are lucky in that we move the holidays around a little if it suits such as Songkran where we might work the holidays before and after then add these onto the Songkran break to give a week off. We do it by majority vote with the staff.

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[winstonc]

I would think it's a bit low.

Maids in BKK might take 300 baht for a visit, which takes 2 hours or less.

And if this caddy can't find 2 jobs a day, he will be making less then the minimum daily wages.

I would give him 400-500, considering it's his daily earnings, and it's really not that much for me (and for you I'm guessing).

caddies always get a monthly or daily wage depending where you are plus what ever they get from the players so dont need to pay them over the top like your doing .

hows he paying them over the top...are they not entitled to a decent living

[Bcgardener]

Had the pleasure of teaching a fine young man English at my local school.....top of his year in most subjects....went to khon kean uni for 5 years on an engineering course.....passed the course top of his year....got a job with Toyota in chon buri as an engineer , they liked him so much that he is now on the design team ( office job) rate of pay......for 8 hours a day....300 bht.....if he works 12 hour shift he can earn 500 bht a day....

Degree or diploma engineer. Either way I find that pay rate unbelievable. Our factory is about 30km from the main car plants in Eastern Seaboard. I am currently looking for a mechanical engineer, preferably diploma, as they tend to be more hands on. Someone with good skills and some English plus a few years experience is going to be looking for 25k plus. A degree engineer with the same experience probably 40k plus. Someone with say 10 years is probably 60k and up.

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[Wat dee]

I pay 200 for non-skilled work,300-350 for " specialists ". Plenty of willing workers around Sakaeo.

[cronus]

I would think it's a bit low.

Maids in BKK might take 300 baht for a visit, which takes 2 hours or less.

And if this caddy can't find 2 jobs a day, he will be making less then the minimum daily wages.

I would give him 400-500, considering it's his daily earnings, and it's really not that much for me (and for you I'm guessing).

I really hope you do NOT play golf.

[Bcgardener]

I pay 200 for non-skilled work,300-350 for " specialists ". Plenty of willing workers around Sakaeo.

Is that official employment or just paying cash to someone for a few odd jobs? If it is full time employment then you are breaking the law and run the risk of a disgruntled employee reporting you to the labour department. Odd jobs for cash and real employment are two different things, not only here, but anywhere in the world and can't really be compared.

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[DeeMockMark]

What is the ordinary day pay for Thai people?

Do you assume "Thai people" describes a working class? Sort of a "Thai people" = clerk at 7/Eleven and caddy and food vendor?

Yes, it does appear our TV forum posters only know lower income Thais. An 'ordinary day pay' may more refer to a minimum wage than average wage, but an average is the better way to determine living standards. I have several Thia friends who are well-educated professionals or who own their own businesses--not B20/meal roadside stands. A thorasic surgeon friend makes well over B7M annually--not a great deal by Western standards--but it serves him well in Southern Thailand. So, the average salary has to consider those Thias who are upper middle-class or wealthy, those who make enough to live on a scale comparable to Westerners. Look around you at the nice houses, cars, pick-up trucks and Harleys. There is money here.

Duh? (Needless to say.) Of course. I don't think that is the issue. It is obvious the OP wasn't talking about a thoracic surgeon. Or maybe there are some that do part time caddying because they need the extra income.

[DeeMockMark]

Sorry i posted twice.

Edited October 8, 2013 by DeeMockMark

[onni4me]

I only know about construction workers since used the a lot last 4-5 years.

It is true one can occasionally find people working 180 Baht a day but they normally ain't worth even that. The motivation is so low that I like to pay good workers a bit more.

How much is a bit more? Hmm...starting from 400 a day and 550 being the top for someone who actually is good at his job. Ladies and unskilled labor get 300 or 350.

Those days when you got someone very cheap are gone. I rather have qualified guys laying my floors and ceilings than some plonker. Jobs that can be priced per square meter are better done that way.

Ceilings here in Khon Kaen start from 170 Baht a square meter, plain ceiling that is. More forms, edges etc. up to 300/sq.m

Installing smart boards 100 per sq.m. Talking here stuff starting from 6 mm thickness up to 10 mm, real heavy to handle.

I have found out that a priced job is quicker than some people plodding along for weeks. But each to their own.

[DeeMockMark]

I have found out that a priced job is quicker than some people plodding along for weeks. But each to their own.

Makes sense to me. There is the motivation factor of getting things done quickly to be free for the next job and done adequately or you don't get paid. Nice!

[phitsanulokjohn]

What's a Thai urn?About 250 baht a day.

[Mangosteen1]

The current salary for picking field corn where I live is 2 baht/kilo. A good picker can make 500 baht in half a day. No golf courses or taxis here for a comparison! My wife charges 20 - 25 baht for a meal in her "restaurant".

I've just finished a project the single expert welder worker asked for 300 baht for himself and 200 for his wife. We agreed and he was very happy with the arrangement.

The project was about 4 months work for him. The one point was that it was about 50 meters from his house.

He was usually at work by 7am and finished about 5 or 6pm with about an hour for lunch. The job has turned out a very nice one though the time was a lot more than we expected

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Beautiful and Good Deal.

[Muhendis]

A lot of the Thai "low" workers have their own farms and do building work to fill in the non-farming gap. These guys are fairly good at what they do but need careful supervision. The cash you give them on a day rate goes unseen by the govt. and, on that basis, is worth more to them since it is tax free.

[fdbob]

I would think it's a bit low.

Maids in BKK might take 300 baht for a visit, which takes 2 hours or less.

And if this caddy can't find 2 jobs a day, he will be making less then the minimum daily wages.

I would give him 400-500, considering it's his daily earnings, and it's really not that much for me (and for you I'm guessing).

you can the tip the cadet what you like usually 200 or 300 baht the golf course also has to pay them minimum wage 300 baht