jobin Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 So far my only economic dealings, besides restaurants, bars and such, are the taxi driver who is on call for me and the golf caddy. The driver rents his taxi for 500BT per day and i pay him 200BT for a one way 15 minute drive to the golf course. After i play i pay the caddy 250BT for her 4.5 hrs. I have been told that the 250 is the normal pay. What is the ordinary day pay for Thai people? Small reasonable restaurant meals here cost 50-75 BT so 250 hardly seems enough for one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 minimum salary is 300 Baht. A taxi can make a lot money if he is smart and active, or he can very little if he is lazy and staying in the wrong area that doesn't need a taxi at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bocceball1 Posted October 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2013 The government just raised the minimum wage to 300/baht a day (within the last couple of years). Thai's generally work 7 days a week. Sooooo you do the math .....about 9000/month. NOW not all employers (especially small business's) pay attention to rules or laws ....so they pay less....ie..small restaurants probably pay....5k-8k/month.Most small restaurants though are family run and the family are the workers. The taxi driver who rents a cab from the owner ....well he's on his own ...kinda like a small business. The caddies ....don't get a loop everyday so their wages aren't regular or guaranteed. In general the wages paid in Thailand are slave wages....BUT remember this is a family oriented culture so everybody works (well ...most of the time) and contributes to the family unit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soomak Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I would think it's a bit low. Maids in BKK might take 300 baht for a visit, which takes 2 hours or less. And if this caddy can't find 2 jobs a day, he will be making less then the minimum daily wages. I would give him 400-500, considering it's his daily earnings, and it's really not that much for me (and for you I'm guessing). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The government just raised the minimum wage to 300/baht a day (within the last couple of years). Thai's generally work 7 days a week. Sooooo you do the math .....about 9000/month. NOW not all employers (especially small business's) pay attention to rules or laws ....so they pay less....ie..small restaurants probably pay....5k-8k/month.Most small restaurants though are family run and the family are the workers. The taxi driver who rents a cab from the owner ....well he's on his own ...kinda like a small business. The caddies ....don't get a loop everyday so their wages aren't regular or guaranteed. In general the wages paid in Thailand are slave wages....BUT remember this is a family oriented culture so everybody works (well ...most of the time) and contributes to the family unit. "Thai's generally work 7 days a week." aeh, NO "BUT remember this is a family oriented culture so everybody works (well ...most of the time) and contributes to the family unit." aeh NO Both statements might be true in some cases, we could discuss if it is the majority or not, but it is for sure not all and not almost all..... If you would increase the "slave wages" to say the double, everything would cost the double + the companies couldn't export unless the Baht would devalue. At the end you could purchase exactly the same for 1 hour working. The problem is the efficiency which is low because the educational system is bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I tip my caddy 300 baht for 18 holes. That's about standard around Pattaya, especially if you're a frequent player and use the same caddy. They'll turn down the two-week millionaire idiots that they know will tip 500+ and stick with their regular "less generous" customers because they know they'll be gone in a week but the regulars play 2 or 3 times a week all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpofc Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Thailand minimum daily wage is set by province Effective April 1, 2012 the minimum daily wage in Thailand as set by Thailand’s Employment Committee No. 6 is: • Bt 300 –– Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn• Bt 273 –– Chonburi• Bt 269 –– Chachoengsao and Saraburi• Bt 265 –– Ayudhya• Bt 264 –– Rayong• Bt 259 –– Ranong• Bt 258 –– Phang-nga• Bt 257 –– Krabi• Bt 255 –– Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi• Bt 254 –– Lopburi• Bt 252 –– Kanchanaburi• Bt 251 –– Chiangmai and Ratchburi• Bt 250 –– Chantaburi and Petchburi• Bt 246 –– Songkhla and Singhburi• Bt 244 –– Trang• Bt 243 –– Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong• Bt 241 –– Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew• Bt 240 –– Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram• Bt 239 –– Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani• Bt 237 –– Nakorn Nayok and Pattani• Bt 236 –– Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai• Bt 234 –– Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani• Bt 233 –– Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen• Bt 232 –– Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn• Bt 230 –– Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu• Bt 229 –– Nakornpanom• Bt 227 –– Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen• Bt 226 –– Tak and Surin• Bt 225 –– Nan• Bt 223 –– Srisaket• Bt 222 –– Payao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 240 baht in Suratthani? Damn gardener is ripping me off... Sent from my GT-S5830 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) The current salary for picking field corn where I live is 2 baht/kilo. A good picker can make 500 baht in half a day. No golf courses or taxis here for a comparison! My wife charges 20 - 25 baht for a meal in her "restaurant". Edited October 7, 2013 by wayned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Ranong 249 Baht? Try 500 Baht, and that's for a few hours with a weed wacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Government declared official wages are only an indicator of the minimum legal salary. Practically it is way higher. Even in the case of maids or restaurant workers where a poster above has mentioned median wages of about 8000 per month, this is excluding the 3 meals and accomodation which the employer is providing, in most cases at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 To the OP. You are not paying the caddys salery! You are giving him/her a tip on top of the salery from the golfclub at 300 baht/round. 2 rounds a day in highseason is 30.000 a month, with a couple of days of. So you don't have to feel sorry for them! Btw. The numbers posted by cpofc in post# 7, are old numbers. It is (or should be) 300 in all provinces now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kikoman Posted October 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2013 The village construction laborers ask 250 baht per day, trades-men that use special tools or act as lead man make 450 baht a day., I normally pay 300 baht per job and 500 baht to tradesmen. When working in the rice fields workers make 200-250 baht per day. work day is normal day time hours. One poster stated that Thai's did not work 7 days a week "is wrong" they do , 7 days a week 12 hours a day and usually one day off per month. Most unskilled workers in Pattaya, are paid 250 Baht per day, I would guess it would be up to 300 baht per day now, the wife worked a Mike's Shopping Mall, in sales 7 days a week from 11 AM to 11 PM with one day off per month, she was allowed two more days off per month which required her to pay 250 per extra days off.. In the village all members of the family work and pool the money together for the families needs. Cheers:. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Thai's do work 7 days a week, and receive 250 baht per day, trades-man 450 per day when required to use his specialize tools. The wife worked at Mikes Shopping mall in Pattaya, clothes sales, 7 days a week 12 hours a day from 11 AM to 11 PM with one unpaid day off per month, could request more days off per month but had to paid her replacement workers wages of 250 baht per day for each extra days off. All of her Thai friends worked the same , 12 hours a day 7 days a week, one day off a month. Which since she left the wage increased to 300 baht per day. The village labor is 200-250 baht per day, daylight hours. Cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 240 baht in Suratthani? dam_n gardener is ripping me off... Sent from my GT-S5830 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app it said minimum, doesnt said FAIR wages i am sure you didnt collect your money to buy that garden from being on minimum salary... just a thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The government just raised the minimum wage to 300/baht a day (within the last couple of years). Thai's generally work 7 days a week. Sooooo you do the math .....about 9000/month. NOW not all employers (especially small business's) pay attention to rules or laws ....so they pay less....ie..small restaurants probably pay....5k-8k/month.Most small restaurants though are family run and the family are the workers. The taxi driver who rents a cab from the owner ....well he's on his own ...kinda like a small business. The caddies ....don't get a loop everyday so their wages aren't regular or guaranteed. In general the wages paid in Thailand are slave wages....BUT remember this is a family oriented culture so everybody works (well ...most of the time) and contributes to the family unit. "Thai's generally work 7 days a week." aeh, NO "BUT remember this is a family oriented culture so everybody works (well ...most of the time) and contributes to the family unit." aeh NO Both statements might be true in some cases, we could discuss if it is the majority or not, but it is for sure not all and not almost all..... If you would increase the "slave wages" to say the double, everything would cost the double + the companies couldn't export unless the Baht would devalue. At the end you could purchase exactly the same for 1 hour working. The problem is the efficiency which is low because the educational system is bad. i am sure you heard of the so called "Big Mac Index"...if not you can google it. while it's price depend some, since it is the same product country to country, and do workers expected the same job and productivity to produce it, the price and the salary % to buy one should be comparable and quite representative. alternative use the Bloomberg link on the car forum here, in mind to compare gasoline price/gallon vs. daily salary avarages in about 60 countries...you will be surprised! Thailand is not cheap. At all. In any case, minimum salaries should not be the standard to pay for workers, however i believe there is many workers who doesnt make the minimum salary. Some mentioned works like picking corn, and making 500thb...the only problem that it is a seasonal day job....not something you can really depend on paying the bills, or feeding the family. Also should be put into account that the empolyer/government wont put up some pension fund with matching contributions, nor there is a health insurance to mst of these workers mentioned. they are their own in these matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiLai Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Unskilled workers in central thailand make as little as 200 baht a day, sometimes less. Often, not even worth that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyTwo Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I tip my caddy 300 baht for 18 holes. That's about standard around Pattaya, especially if you're a frequent player and use the same caddy. They'll turn down the two-week millionaire idiots that they know will tip 500+ and stick with their regular "less generous" customers because they know they'll be gone in a week but the regulars play 2 or 3 times a week all year. I thought female caddies were looking to make tips via the 19th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What is the ordinary day pay for Thai people? Do you assume "Thai people" describes a working class? Sort of a "Thai people" = clerk at 7/Eleven and caddy and food vendor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thailand minimum daily wage is set by province Effective April 1, 2012 the minimum daily wage in Thailand as set by Thailand’s Employment Committee No. 6 is: • Bt 300 –– Bangkok, Phuket, Nakorn Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakarn and Samut Sakorn • Bt 273 –– Chonburi • Bt 269 –– Chachoengsao and Saraburi • Bt 265 –– Ayudhya • Bt 264 –– Rayong • Bt 259 –– Ranong • Bt 258 –– Phang-nga • Bt 257 –– Krabi • Bt 255 –– Nakorn Ratchasima and Prachinburi • Bt 254 –– Lopburi • Bt 252 –– Kanchanaburi • Bt 251 –– Chiangmai and Ratchburi • Bt 250 –– Chantaburi and Petchburi • Bt 246 –– Songkhla and Singhburi • Bt 244 –– Trang • Bt 243 –– Nakorn Srithammarat and Angthong • Bt 241 –– Chumporn, Pattalung, Satun, Loei and Sakaew • Bt 240 –– Prachuab Kirikhan, Yala, Surat Thani and Samut Songkram • Bt 239 –– Narathiwat, Udonthani and Ubolratchathani • Bt 237 –– Nakorn Nayok and Pattani • Bt 236 –– Trad, Lampoon, Buengkan and Nongkai • Bt 234 –– Kampaengpetch and Uthaithani • Bt 233 –– Chainat, Supanburi, Kalasin and Khonkaen • Bt 232 –– Chiangrai, Buriram, Nakorn Sawan, Petchaboon, Yasothorn, Roiet and Sakolnakorn • Bt 230 –– Chaiyapoom, Mukdahan, Lampang, Sukhothai and Nongbualampu • Bt 229 –– Nakornpanom • Bt 227 –– Pichit, Pitsanuloke, Prae, Mahasarakam, Maehongson, Utaradit and Amnatcharoen • Bt 226 –– Tak and Surin • Bt 225 –– Nan • Bt 223 –– Srisaket • Bt 222 –– Payao This was per 1 April 2012, per 1 January 2013 the minimum wage is 300 in every province, leading to some unbalance because the "smart on the short term" now think that they can make the same upcountry in Isaan and leave their jobs. When they realize that there is no work whole year round at home they come back to find their jobs taken by Cambodians and Myanmar, they are happy to work for less...because the smart government decided that the minimum wage is only for Thai nationals.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 If you have someone reliable, trustworthy, and with even basic skills, you will never, ever keep them working for you by paying them anything near minimum wage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel1 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I think that many people worry too much about the thai wages here. A minimum is not enough to buy petrol someone said, in most european countries you not can also with the minimun so why should you here. A minimun is set, mostly not earned but much more, most simple street fendors pick up easily 600thb a day in bkk. when service is good in a restaurant, the taxi driver is a good guy or whatever I am more than happy to tip people accordingly but for sure I do not see a reason to feel bad for them as it was like this before me and will be after me. especialy with the low unemployement rate in bkk everyone is jumping for personnell, no one is working anymore for 300b. a day. maybe construction workers yes... but few days ago in Buriram, the guy had money enough to buy alcohol and yaba so he could kill 16 others im sure 300 a day was more than enough for him they made it yesterday they made it today for sure tomorrow they will make it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Small reasonable restaurant meals here cost 50-75 BT so 250 hardly seems enough for one day. Heaps ... if you cook at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Small reasonable restaurant meals here cost 50-75 BT so 250 hardly seems enough for one day. Heaps ... if you cook at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Official rate 300 baht/day. Normally two or four days off in a month, typically a month pay is 8,000 baht plus social security. Some times a bonus or paid overtime on top. However in some branches the pay is much higher, like tourist area restaurants typically between 12,000 and 15,000 (or more) a month including tips etc. and often some kind of free accomodation. Self employed, like taxi drivers, can make quite good money, if they wish to work for it. Specialist jobs, for example a (good) chef, can also pay quite well – people making 20,000 or 30,000 a month is not unsual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Not to mention professionals, who can make many millions of baht a month... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bcgardener Posted October 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2013 My understanding is that the standard working week as per Labour department regulations is 48 hours per week i.e. 6 day week. This would be for formal employment where the employer is paying social security payments (5% of standard salary up to a max of 750 baht). Unfortunately a lot of Thai companies flaunt these regulations and appear to get away with it. If it is a Farang owned (49% anyway) company as is ours then you would try this at your peril as the Labour department would be onto you immediately as someone would be bound to make a complaint. For my staff, monthly salaries vary from 13,000 baht/ Month for trades assistants and drivers etc, around 19,000 for tradesman and around 25,000 for a supervisor. They work a 48 hour week for the basic salary then 1.5x for mid week overtime and 2x for Sundays. 7 days holiday per year, 3 days personal leave and a "reasonable" amount of sick leave. On top of this they get a bonus at the end of the year that depends on company performance but is generally a minimum of 1 months salary. Employees paying the social payment above get a medical card which gives them pretty much free medical in a nominated hospital. Before the usual "your overpaying them, Thais are lazy" critics start posting. My guys all give a solid days work and appreciate the conditions they have. We have never had an employee quit , although I have sacked a few. The same goes anywhere in the world. If you take care of your staff , they will take care of you. Those that don't appreciate that are usually the one that don't last long with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongteesood Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 On the other hand there are many Thai people who make 40, 50, 60,000 and even more. The banks put their 'customers' into bands depending on how much they earn per month, Band A here is 100,000+ per month, so a number of people make that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 A "number" of people make 500,000 or 1,000,000 or 5,000,000 baht a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 It's a silly question really. How much does an American make a day? ... Just as silly. A burger flipper or a Wall Street stock broker? Daft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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