ArNaSu Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I got my monster a couple of weeks ago, I like it a lot. One slight issue I have with it is the gearing, it seems incredibly long gearing. Can't really get it into second gear until about 30-40 kms/hr and on the highway it doesn't seem happy in sixth gear until your over 110km/hr. Has anyone changed their sprockets to change the gearing a little ?, to me the rear spocket could to with being a bit bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 There are many ducati forums! It seems that changing the front sprocket from 15T to 14T is quite common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yes you should change the front sprocket from 15 to 14 t. I did that on my Monster 1100 EVO and the bike was much better to handle in slow moving traffic. In fact, as Vocalneal said, it is very common to change the sprockets on the Monster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yes you should change the front sprocket from 15 to 14 t. I did that on my Monster 1100 EVO and the bike was much better to handle in slow moving traffic. In fact, as Vocalneal said, it is very common to change the sprockets on the Monster. Though mine isn't a Monster, the change from a 15T to a 14T was like night & day. It made my 999S a lot easier on the clutch for street duties and also turned it into an animal on the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hili Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 another option is to flash a different map i dont know who can do it in thailand but its called rexxer. Its flashing the original ecu or could do do with a power commander but it requires the unit of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coobah666 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Give it time its only new let it get 2-3000 km up and it will lug down in second around 2500-3000 rpm and using 95 benzine helps a lot, and the sound of rolling off the throttle in first gear only a Ducati owner can tell you ????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Agreed about the 14 tooth sprocket. I took a Monster for a test ride and starting out, I thought I was in second gear. (granted I am used to trail bikes and hitting 3rd gear before I'm thru the intersection) Unless you need the high end speed, the gear change makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtooth Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Agreed about the 14 tooth sprocket. I took a Monster for a test ride and starting out, I thought I was in second gear. (granted I am used to trail bikes and hitting 3rd gear before I'm thru the intersection) Unless you need the high end speed, the gear change makes sense. Yep, aggreed. But I like the bigger rear sprocket option. Seems like less stress on the chain in my mind. If the chain won't reach (One tooth change on the front equals the ratio of rear/front number of teeth. Probably 3 to 1. ) Then you could buy a chain for cutting into the small half-link bits and use two master-links. (No worse than one master-link.) You can fine tune the ratio better this way. (ie: A rear sprocket change of one or two teeth. Depending on availability of rear sprockets with one, two, and three more teeth in Thailand.) I've done the above to my little bike, as I've put on a huge rear tire with a greater circumference than the stock tire. I had to get my gearing back down then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hili Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If you are going to change the rear sprocket make sure the chain doesn't hit the swing warm while driving especially in a one sided swingarm! Sent from my HTC Desire X using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yes you should change the front sprocket from 15 to 14 t. I did that on my Monster 1100 EVO and the bike was much better to handle in slow moving traffic. In fact, as Vocalneal said, it is very common to change the sprockets on the Monster. If you drive in the city your clutch will say thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There are many ducati forums! It seems that changing the front sprocket from 15T to 14T is quite common. And being the cheapest, simplest method (bang for your buck) improvement. No ECU mapping or reflashes and generally no chain changes required. Todays modern chains are a hell of lot more durable that the ones of yesteryear, which I'm sure were made out of mild steel (joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The 14t mod is okay for city riding but the loss of top-end is noticeable especially on the highways riding with inline-4's. Maybe stick to the 15t and get a clutch slave to help with the heavy Ducati clutch pull. To the OP, if you wanted a city bike, maybe a Duc wasn't the best choice as they don't like to be ridden slowly. And also you really shouldn't be anywhere near 6th gear at only 110kph. Maybe with some more time in the saddle you'll become more in tune with the gearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin123 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Best Mod I did to mine was buy the touring seat!Plus replace the stock indicators for smaller LED units. The stock ducati ones are quite big and the rear ones very easy to knock when getting on the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) Yes you should change the front sprocket from 15 to 14 t. I did that on my Monster 1100 EVO and the bike was much better to handle in slow moving traffic. In fact, as Vocalneal said, it is very common to change the sprockets on the Monster. If you drive in the city your clutch will say thank you. Not if you know how to operate it. Unfortunately, I did too many miles in the city BUT Zero issues with the clutch (10,000km) A dry clutch would say thank you fairly easy but not a wet clutch. Also, the sprocket change will be easier on the clutch. Edited October 22, 2013 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The 14t mod is okay for city riding but the loss of top-end is noticeable especially on the highways riding with inline-4's. Maybe stick to the 15t and get a clutch slave to help with the heavy Ducati clutch pull. To the OP, if you wanted a city bike, maybe a Duc wasn't the best choice as they don't like to be ridden slowly. And also you really shouldn't be anywhere near 6th gear at only 110kph. Maybe with some more time in the saddle you'll become more in tune with the gearing. Whether you have a 15T of 14T front sprocket the bike still reaches 200Km/h. For most of us that would be enough for the highway (in Thailand). For me it certainly was. Latest Monsters are really geared very long. Stock they are very difficult to ride for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guns Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I agree with the long/tall gearing issue. It means you have to change gear a lot. It's ok if like in my case its just a weekend toy. If I used my Monster as a commuter it would be a pain. I expect a new Monster with the 110 bhp engine in 2014 it will be interesting to find out what the gearing will be like. I wonder if the new Hypermotard has the same issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I agree with the long/tall gearing issue. It means you have to change gear a lot. It's ok if like in my case its just a weekend toy. If I used my Monster as a commuter it would be a pain. I expect a new Monster with the 110 bhp engine in 2014 it will be interesting to find out what the gearing will be like. I wonder if the new Hypermotard has the same issue? It's been a long day but I'm confused. Surely as a weekend toy you'd want shorter gearing and the commuter would want taller gearing? if it's geared tall then every gear goes further so as long as the engine has enough power for each gear then you'll change gear less riding at a 'commuter' pace, but you will have slightly less acceleration. RPM's will be lower at cruising speed. Good for a commuter. Short gearing generally requires more gear changes but you get harder acceleration. And higher RPM's at the same speed. Good for a weekend toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guns Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm on holiday so maybe not thinking straight. Compared to the Er6n at an equivalent speed on the monster you have to be one or two gears lower. I wouldn't normally put it into 6th until about 130-140 kph whereas an ER6n you can pop into 6th at about 90KPH. So basically round town you're in a lower gear at higher revs getting worse fuel consumption. I thought a commuter would want the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Commuting in traffic or the open road is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArNaSu Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 After reading through some Ducati forums it does indeed seem like a common mod to change the front sprocket to 14t. I will give this a go at the 1000k service and post my thoughts on the change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik0 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I've changed my exhaust with a QD ExBox, a ducc ee servo eliminator and a Bazzaz zfi to handle the new tune. I originally opted for a Power Commander V for a 796 (Paid $450. For sale if anyones interested. $350+postage from Saigon Vietnam) but went instead with a Bazzaz zfi unit. Since installing the new exhaust (even before tuning) and on the ride over to the workshop, I had noticed it has gotten a lot smoother now. (2270kms old) I guess it's due to getting rid of the exhaust valve and servo. Run up on the dyno and got 76.93hp@rear wheel (with 6 week old fuel in the tank), up from 72.67 hp stock. My TQ curve is now very flat compared to stock. There was a 795 with Termis, Bazzaz zfi (unsure if it had the A&N airfilter and Ducati retuned ecu) that was tuned, It cranked out 73.68hp. Not much more than stock. Now its very responsive, The bogging down at lower rpm's isn't so noticeable though I usually leave it in 1-2nd gear when riding in the city (20-40kph) Not too worried about getting it up into 6th gear, I just select the gear best suited for maintaining the RPM's the engine likes, It is a Ducati after all, Not a I4 Jap engine. This new exhaust isn't for everyone. It is loud, almost to the point where its rude . There is no popping, no backfires of flames, just a rumble. I've just put the DB Killer in tonight (round stainless disc to block off the lower exit hole on the exhaust) but with the kids upstairs sleeping I wasn't going to start it. I'll see how different it sounds in the morning. When riding around I get a resonance in my helmet, but after a 40min ride there is no buzzing in my ears so I guess its just the frequency, not the volume. I get a lot of people moving over for me and heads turning to look. Now there is nothing between the rear tyre hugger and under the seat, I need to do something about the rear indicators, They are sticking out like Prince Charles wingnut ears or kangaroo/dogs balls. Thinking along the lines of a combi brake light but still prefer dedicated indicators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Not too worried about getting it up into 6th gear, I just select the gear best suited for maintaining the RPM's the engine likes, +1 This is something many do not understand about sport bikes/sport riding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Whether you have a 15T of 14T front sprocket the bike still reaches 200Km/h. For most of us that would be enough for the highway (in Thailand). I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJ Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Both setups do go 200KPH. Ducati 796 - 6th gear: 15T sprocket = 220 KPH 14T sprocket = 207 KPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmax Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hello, I am trying to change my original sproket from 15T (original) to a new 14T but Ducati told me that they do not do it since the sproket is not the same as on the 796 et so far no model for the 795.I went to MPK as well, same issue. If any of you changed it could you pls recommend the model details and where to get it fixed on my bike? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hello, I am trying to change my original sproket from 15T (original) to a new 14T but Ducati told me that they do not do it since the sproket is not the same as on the 796 et so far no model for the 795. I went to MPK as well, same issue. If any of you changed it could you pls recommend the model details and where to get it fixed on my bike? Thanks! Hi kmax, can you take a side on photo of your sprocket, plus if possible a photo showing the offset (if any) of the sprocket teeth compared to the sprocket splined hole.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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