HAs anyone seen them for sale here?

HAs anyone seen them for sale here?

No, never in all the years I have been in Phuket.

HAs anyone seen them for sale here?

No, never in all the years I have been in Phuket.

Ok thanks, I still have one from Pattaya but was more for the donation.

What time should we observe silence? Local or GMT?

Edited November 8, 201312 yr by eezergood

What time should we observe silence? Local or GMT?

Hadn't we just established it is a worldwide event?

Busy day ?

PLease troll elsewhere

Busy day ?

PLease troll elsewhere

Sorry, I just don't understand your question. It is a worldwide event, why would you even consider sticking to GMT? You could also follow US pacific time, AEDT, Mid European time, etc.

On top of that, in my opinion it really does not matter which time you follow, it is the remembrance that counts.

Busy day ?

PLease troll elsewhere

Sorry, I just don't understand your question. It is a worldwide event, why would you even consider sticking to GMT? You could also follow US pacific time, AEDT, Mid European time, etc.

On top of that, in my opinion it really does not matter which time you follow, it is the remembrance that counts.

The second part of your reply is, for once, sensible & my thoughts also.

If you didnt understand the question, why not say so in the first place? I think it was pretty straightforward, but incase here we go. I was canvassing opinion as to best practice for showing my respects. I realise the time, to a certain extent, will not matter - but perhaps there is/was a generally accepted practice.

Edited November 8, 201312 yr by eezergood

I will be following GMT.

Busy day ?

PLease troll elsewhere

Sorry, I just don't understand your question. It is a worldwide event, why would you even consider sticking to GMT? You could also follow US pacific time, AEDT, Mid European time, etc.

On top of that, in my opinion it really does not matter which time you follow, it is the remembrance that counts.

<snip>If you didnt understand the question, why not say so in the first place? I think it was pretty straightforward, snip>

And so I thought was my answer, pretty clear and straightforward.

But glad that's sorted.

I will be following GMT.

It would seem this is the generally accepted rule. Thanks for your input.

I will be following GMT.

It would seem this is the generally accepted rule. Thanks for your input.

So you will be observing a minutes silence by not snoring for a minute at 0400 local time?

I will be following GMT.

It would seem this is the generally accepted rule. Thanks for your input.

So you will be observing a minutes silence by not snoring for a minute at 0400 local time?

Erm you do realise that GMT is only 7 hrs behind Thailand - normally at 6pm (ish) i am wide awake

I will be following GMT.

It would seem this is the generally accepted rule. Thanks for your input.

So you will be observing a minutes silence by not snoring for a minute at 0400 local time?

Erm you do realise that GMT is only 7 hrs behind Thailand - normally at 6pm (ish) i am wide awake

Erm, you're right. I was working the wrong way back with the 7 hours.

Apologies.

So now that we've established that this day is celebrated by those in the commonwealth states, how are those of us not in the commonwealth states supposed to know what that OP image stands for?

Plenty of my family has served in the military and in my country we do celebrate a day to remember those fallen in battle, however we don't use that image. I'm still trying to figure out how this is Phuket related and not general topic relate

SP I would have liked to have posted this thread in the general forum but unfortunately it is not Thai

related and as such would be quickly removed by the all seeing eyes. Sad because it is something I

feel strongly about and people, like yourself, and, especially the younger generation should be made

aware of the sacrifices made by others so that they may have a better life.

And to help you out on the origin of the Poppy symbol, it comes from the following poem written in 1915

after the battle in the Ypres

In Flanders Fields

By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)

Canadian Army.

In Flanders Fields the poppies blow

Between the crosses row on row,

That mark our place; and in the sky

The larks, still bravely singing, fly

Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago

We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,

Loved and were loved, and now we lie

In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:

To you from failing hands we throw

The torch; be yours to hold it high.

If ye break faith with us who die

We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

In Flanders fields

Edited November 8, 201312 yr by phuketjock

I'm sorry, but I cannot believe there are people who do not know the significance of the symbol and the hour! (or at least cannot Google).

I am one who's first impression was that the post was Beatles song and the date was when the album was released. I did not know better, so I decided to wait and see.

I have probably learned the date on history classes few decades ago, but I have never in my life met anyone who have expressed that the date would be significant to them. Therefore the information have faded from my memory.

It's not disrespect for those who want to remember the date.

I'm saying this to explain why some of us, even moderately educated ones, do not recognise the date. We come from different cultures as well with different values.

If and when this topic will come up next year. I, and I suppose some others, already know what the day is all about and why it's important to some people here.

The poppies are available along with arm bands and badges in the lobby of the British School. Opposite Bake.

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I'm sorry, but I cannot believe there are people who do not know the significance of the symbol and the hour! (or at least cannot Google).

I am one who's first impression was that the post was Beatles song and the date was when the album was released. I did not know better, so I decided to wait and see.

I have probably learned the date on history classes few decades ago, but I have never in my life met anyone who have expressed that the date would be significant to them. Therefore the information have faded from my memory.

It's not disrespect for those who want to remember the date.

I'm saying this to explain why some of us, even moderately educated ones, do not recognise the date. We come from different cultures as well with different values.

If and when this topic will come up next year. I, and I suppose some others, already know what the day is all about and why it's important to some people here.

@ oilink, There is no shame in coming from a different culture and even at my ripe old age I am still learning everyday.

@ backstairs, Thanks for the info.

I will be in town Monday doing my stuff with a tear in my eye thinking about the ordinary guy taken from his loved ones to fight for our freedom and remove the aggressor. Even the ranks of the aggressor would have rather been at home with their loved ones, minus a few. I think of them all.

The poppies are available along with arm bands and badges in the lobby of the British School. Opposite Bake.

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The Phuket Cricket Club has them..

Appropriate for today I think.

The Green Fields of France.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt3wy-L8Ok

For those who have access to UK TV (Sky News, BBC World), the coverage from the Cenotaph in London (circa 6 p.m. Thai time), is usually very poignant and worth watching.

Excellent coverage on Sky news pagallim but disappointingly not a mention at 6 pm on BBC World news, quite

sad that.

For those who have access to UK TV (Sky News, BBC World), the coverage from the Cenotaph in London (circa 6 p.m. Thai time), is usually very poignant and worth watching.

Excellent coverage on Sky news pagallim but disappointingly not a mention at 6 pm on BBC World news, quite

sad that.

BBC world news should be now called the BBC coverage of the middle east, with special emphasis on Qatar. (new paymasters!)

Agreed. I watched the Sky News coverage, and whilst not quite as good or as knowledgeable commentators as the BBC normally serve up. it was OK. I enjoy the personal stories that always come out during the coverage, and the multitude of characters that attend (ironically, I always look for individuals that I might have served with).

Some of the posts in this thread are frankly bizarre. The act of remembrance (from it's original 11/11/11 context), is not to honour, but remember those who have sacrificied their lives in the service of their country. What country, and what service is not particularly important. I'm sure that those who actually participated in the second World War, would not object to people from Germany or Japan maintaining an observance of remembrance at the same time. Tragedy is not a sole right of any nation.

In the context of the UK's service of Remembrance, it's intent is recognition for all service men and women who have lost their lives in the service of their country. Particular conflicts are not important, the sacrifice is.

This was sent to me by a Canadian friend, and once you've read the text, clicking on the link is a must......Il Silencio played by a 13 yr old girl in memory of those wo fell. Brings a tear to the eyes.

This is very moving - a poignant piece of music played by a remarkable young musician

TAPS played as you've never heard it......The Silence

A few years ago, a friend visited the Netherlands American Cemetery and Memorial in the village of Margraten, about six miles from Maastricht.

There lie buried 8,301 American soldiers killed in the battle to liberate Holland in the fall and winter of 1944-45.

Sgt. Bill Dukeman, 101st Airborne Division, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, Second Battalion, Company C (of "Band of Brothers” fame) is buried there.He was killed in the battle of "The Crossroads" in northern Holland.

The Dutch hold an annual memorial concert every September at the above cemetery to remember and honor the Americans who died to free them in Operation Market Garden and subsequent efforts to eject the German army from Holland.

Sgt. Dukeman, like many other fallen GIs, was "adopted" by a Dutch family. Dukeman's family in the States was contacted and hosted in Holland, and his grave site decorated each year by his Dutch "family." They keep his portrait in their home, displayed in a place of honor.

Fathers pass this obligation down to their sons in Holland....and these brave men continue to be "honored". This version of the original "taps" music is played by 13 year old Dutch girl named Melissa Venema.

The conductor of the orchestra is Andre Rieu from Holland. Many of you may never have heard taps played in its entirety.

The original version of Taps was called Last Post, and was written by Daniel Butterfield in 1801.

It was rather lengthy and formal, as you will hear in this clip, so in 1862 it was shortened to 24 notes and re-named Taps.

Melissa Venema is playing it on a trumpet whereby the original was played on a bugle.

Watch at this site, and go full screen.

http://www.flixxy.com/trumpet-solo-melissa-venema.htm

This was sent to me by a Canadian friend, and once you've read the text, clicking on the link is a must......Il Silencio played by a 13 yr old girl in memory of those wo fell. Brings a tear to the eyes.

This is very moving - a poignant piece of music played by a remarkable young musician

TAPS played as you've never heard it......The Silence

A few years ago, a friend visited the Netherlands American Cemetery and Memorial in the village of Margraten, about six miles from Maastricht.

There lie buried 8,301 American soldiers killed in the battle to liberate Holland in the fall and winter of 1944-45.

Sgt. Bill Dukeman, 101st Airborne Division, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, Second Battalion, Company C (of "Band of Brothers” fame) is buried there.He was killed in the battle of "The Crossroads" in northern Holland.

The Dutch hold an annual memorial concert every September at the above cemetery to remember and honor the Americans who died to free them in Operation Market Garden and subsequent efforts to eject the German army from Holland.

Sgt. Dukeman, like many other fallen GIs, was "adopted" by a Dutch family. Dukeman's family in the States was contacted and hosted in Holland, and his grave site decorated each year by his Dutch "family." They keep his portrait in their home, displayed in a place of honor.

Fathers pass this obligation down to their sons in Holland....and these brave men continue to be "honored". This version of the original "taps" music is played by 13 year old Dutch girl named Melissa Venema.

The conductor of the orchestra is Andre Rieu from Holland. Many of you may never have heard taps played in its entirety.

The original version of Taps was called Last Post, and was written by Daniel Butterfield in 1801.

It was rather lengthy and formal, as you will hear in this clip, so in 1862 it was shortened to 24 notes and re-named Taps.

Melissa Venema is playing it on a trumpet whereby the original was played on a bugle.

Watch at this site, and go full screen.

http://www.flixxy.com/trumpet-solo-melissa-venema.htm

When I was in the Army in the 60s this tune Il Silencio by Nino Rossi was on the juke box in

the NAAFI and was always a favourite of mine, brings back many memories to me thanks

xylophone.

I don't need to buy things to remember the past, I remember the people who gave there lives to make ours better as a normal every day thought!!

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I don't need to buy things to remember the past, I remember the people who gave there lives to make ours better as a normal every day thought!!

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Sure, but its not about "the buying". It is a donation which goes to service charities; but more than that it is one day to show respect for those in all countries that fell honourably protecting their country and doing their duty.

incidentally, it should be GMT (as asked earlier) really, as it was the time the armistice was signed in 1919 (end of WW 1): 11th hour (GMT) of the 11th day of the 11th month. Poppy is to remember Flounders (basically a field covered in red poppies), a bloody battle that raged for years with 4 countries each owning their little corner and set of trenches - the land had no real strategic importance other than it became a place with obstinate defence on all sides. It was also where the 2 day truce was called over xmas that saw opposite sides playing football (soccer) and swapping drink (a lot of stolen French wine apparently ). Just to bring it in-line with Thailand: Then only women at flounders front (i.e. beyond the various high commands - at the battle field itself and the trenches) were Thai! Thailand (Siam) committed 24 (I think) nurses to the war effort and they were used in flounders to care for the wounded at ground zero - they were considered incredibly brave!

I got my poppy from the UK - brought by my sister on a visit this month (metal one - poppy, not sister)

The Armistice was signed in 1918.

First Armistice day with the minutes silence was 1919.

Just a quick update to let all know that Remembrance Day Poppies were in fact available

at the British International School and the donations box was supplied by the Royal British

Legion, so a very worthy cause. I am assuming they will be there every year hopefully.

Cheers,