Buying Pirarted Dvds/cds Is Stealing

[kkf123]

Its amazing how many of the people on here hate the idea of being short changed in a bar, yet have no problem purchasing copyrighted material on the street.

The reason why is it so cheap, is because its stealing.

So why do you do it? Or rather, why do you get made when someone steals your wallet or overcharges you?

Hypocrites!

[chuchok]

It's because the film and music industry lied to us for so many years about the cost of blank DVD's/CD's.

They deserve to get tucked up.

[ProfessorFart]

Totally agree with Chuchok. Especialy in the UK where we are charged around 300% more than the production costs for CDs and DVDs.

If you think I'm going to lose sleep over Tom Cruise or Lars Ulrich whining about how people are stealing from them, think again.

[PREM-R]

kkf123 do you think it could be those voodo worshiping Nigerian guys who are supplying the 'Pirate' DVD's?

[TRIPxCORE]

If the movie & music industry charged us a fair price for their stuff, pirated material wouldn't get sold so much. They overcharge us though, pretty much gouging us, so I will continue to stick it to them right back!

[kkf123]

The reason why DVDs cost more then the price of a blank DVD is because of the content on them.

If you dont want to pay the price for a DVD, then dont buy it, but that DOES NOT give you the right to steal it.

[kkf123]

You dont care if you are stealing from T.Cruise the sameway a Thai doesnt care if they are stealing from a rich farang. Right?

HYPOCRITES

[ProfessorFart]

I am humbled to be in the prescence of such wisdom............

At the end of the day my arse pocket is not centred around a milti billion dolllar industry founded on fleecing the public at large.

When they admit their guilt to fleecing me for buying CDs and DVDs at silly prices and return the excess they have charged me over the years, then in turn I'll admit my guilt as well and pay them off for all the pirated stuff I've got.

Until Hel1 freezes over I'll carry on as before.

[kkf123]

More faulty logic and self delusion.

Again, they did not force you to buy their DVDs. If you feel they are over priced and CHOOSE to buy them, then that was your choice.

You DO NOT have the right to STEAL because you feel something is over priced.

You make me sick.

[Wolfie]

Calm down gentlemen... lets not have this degenerate into a flame war please. I already have my doubts about this thread but i will let it stand for a while.

Pirated software/music/films is illegal, full stop. If you disagree with the publishers pricing, then simply dont buy it. Most of the stuff is available on the internet at reduced prices (legally) anyhow... but you guys already know that.

[bkkmadness]

More faulty logic and self delusion.

Again, they did not force you to buy their DVDs. If you feel they are over priced and CHOOSE to buy them, then that was your choice.

You DO NOT have the right to STEAL because you feel something is over priced.

You make me sick.

Yep, you are totally right, its stealing and all that <deleted> about "well they charge to much anyway" is crap excuses. My answer to the whole thing is I don't care, I steal it coz it saves me money. Same goes for all your fake clothes and all your downloading and everything else like that. OPs right, dont be hipocrites.Thats the truth of the matter for everyone here, no need for excuses, just know what you are.

Now, the question, why get upset about when a Thai overcharges me? Same reason the film industry gets upset when we buy pirated DVDs, coz its all theft.

But I can catch the Thai guy at it, and the movie industry is perfectly within its rights to catch me and if they do catch me for buying a pirated DVD then fair enough, they've caught a thief and I'm in trouble.

I doubt I'll ever be caught for it though, so I think I'll just carry on buying.

[chuchok]

The reason why DVDs cost more then the price of a blank DVD is because of the content on them.

If you dont want to pay the price for a DVD, then dont buy it, but that DOES NOT give you the right to steal it.

Maybe it dosn't give me the right, but I do it..just like 90% of the members on this board.(at a guess)

As I said before, the 'industry" lied about their pricing structure for years.You reap what you sow.so when they come bleating now, I have no time for them.If they were honest from the start, then I would probably have a different view on things.

I have always believed an honest dollar for an honest job, something that the entertainment industry know very little about.

[Tippaporn]

While you might be able to purchase legal copies of DVDs/CDs at discounted prices the same can't be said for software. Nor is software a simple matter of a refusal to buy it due to the exorbitant price. If you need it, you need it. You have no choice but to begrudgingly pay outrageous prices. Som nam na, as far as I'm concerned. You won't find me with a bleeding heart.

[thai3]

It's because the film and music industry lied to us for so many years about the cost of blank DVD's/CD's.

They deserve to get tucked up.

Pathetic excuse for stealing from artists and actors, what next the brewery lied to us about the cost of beer so that justifies me stealing it from 7-11?

The OP is quite right, buying copied DVD's and CD's IS theft and supports the criminal elemnets behind the counterfeiting. How would you feel if you were a singer and saw some arse with enough money to but the originals but buying cheap fakes instead? Bleating about they ripped us off so we'll do it to them is not very convincing, you do it for one reason only, to save yourself a few dollars.

[chuchok]

It's because the film and music industry lied to us for so many years about the cost of blank DVD's/CD's.

They deserve to get tucked up.

Pathetic excuse for stealing from artists and actors, what next the brewery lied to us about the cost of beer so that justifies me stealing it from 7-11?

The OP is quite right, buying copied DVD's and CD's IS theft and supports the criminal elemnets behind the counterfeiting. How would you feel if you were a singer and saw some arse with enough money to but the originals but buying cheap fakes instead? Bleating about they ripped us off so we'll do it to them is not very convincing, you do it for one reason only, to save yourself a few dollars.

I don't really care what you think.It was no excuse either, just a reason.I never said it was not theft .Calm down for goodness sake.

If they were not cheap, I would not buy them.It's as simple as that.I'd wait for them to come on UBC if they were not cheap.Can you understand this?So you are wrong when you say I am dong it to save a few dollars.

I like Robin Hood movies.

Edited May 2, 2006 by chuchok

[Axel]

Perhaps somebody should set up a guideline how to identify pirated CDs etc.

When I need something, I just go to the shop or stall and look for it.

You are not telling me they are selling illegal goods just next to a police box?

No way, these places are operating in bright daylight and at night. They must be selling legal items, only.

[stumonster]

the only thing that is being stolen is precious life after you are being brainwashed into watching the drivel that passes for mainstream movies.

and when does the actual theft occur ? when you buy a disc compsed of logic on and offs or when you pass those logic bits through a converter which produces images and sound onto a viewing device.

am I comitting a crime if I watch the movie then tell a freind about it ?

copyright is an excuse to bend you over and lube you up.

[bkkmadness]

the only thing that is being stolen is precious life after you are being brainwashed into watching the drivel that passes for mainstream movies.

Are you so easily brainwashed? It seems not. Besides, theres more than mainstream movies out there to get on pirate copies.

copyright is an excuse to bend you over and lube you up.

I suppose you would have a different opinion if you produced something yourself, then you'd be all for copyright.

People stop making excuses, its theft, you're thieves, now get out there and get on with it.

[stumonster]

People stop making excuses, its theft, you're thieves, now get out there and get on with it.

those dvd sellers are thieves I tell ya - its much cheaper on bittorrent..

[bkkmadness]

People stop making excuses, its theft, you're thieves, now get out there and get on with it.

those dvd sellers are thieves I tell ya - its much cheaper on bittorrent..

100% agree, I stopped buying DVDs a long time back. Isohunts the way for me.

[cobra]

The reason why DVDs cost more then the price of a blank DVD is because of the content on them. If you dont want to pay the price for a DVD, then dont buy it, but that DOES NOT give you the right to steal it.

We understand what your saying,

But on the other hand, isn't wearing a knock-off Rolex, or Raybans similar,

No monies we're paid to them yet someone benefits from the style, design, prestige, all of which took that company considerable resources to develop.

Is a boot-leg DVD intellectual property ?, hardly, is any actor worth 30 million a movie ?

I believe if DVD's were priced reasonably, there wouldn't be much of a profit margin in pirating,

[Mighty Mouse]

There is no getting away from the fact that copyright laws are quite specific, and pirate movie buyers are breaking the law.

We must respect all laws passed in the various parliaments, by corrupt, lying and cheating politicians.

If in possession of pirated goods we must be prepared to be arrested and charged by corrupt, lying and cheating police officers.

We would then be dragged before the courts where we would be at the mercy of corrupt, lying and cheating magistrates of judges.

In jail we would be controlled by corrupt, lying and cheating guards. Part of their job is to rehabilitate we pirate DVD buying criminals and they would do their best to teach us a trade so that upon our release from prison, we could gain meaningful employment on the outside.

The trade they would teach us in jail is how to make fake merchandise and sell it to an eager public at cheap prices.

The downside to all of this, is that upon our release from jail and whilst we are selling these goods from our wonky, portable tables in the weekend markets, we would be deafened by the likes of the OP who would be thumping his bible against the palm of his hand whilst delivering a fire and brimstone sermon.

It's a terrible world but someone has to live here.

[Tippaporn]

The OP would like to think the issue was so simple.

[johnh101]

This old sh1t again............

The other day I bought half a dozen movies.

Where the pirates.....YES

Do I care ........NO

Why don't I care ?

Because if there were no pirate copies available I would not have bought these movies as I refuse to pay 10 times their value asked for originals

Does Tom Cruise and his cronies lose my money....NO

Because they would never get it from me anyway, I would rather go without.

[Tippaporn]

Not so easy with software. Design software can run tens of thousands of dollars. Of course, you're expected to upgrade each and every year at a sizeable cost or lose the upgrade option, in which case you have to repurchase the software. Now, for mega corporations they can afford to swing for the purchase price. For the smaller guy they simply can't afford it. Fair? My arse.

[udon]

Its amazing how many of the people on here hate the idea of being short changed in a bar, yet have no problem purchasing copyrighted material on the street.

The reason why is it so cheap, is because its stealing.

So why do you do it? Or rather, why do you get made when someone steals your wallet or overcharges you?

Hypocrites!

Hello kkf123.

How do you think pirated software came about in the 3rd world?

I'll give you a clue. ........It wasn't for expats and tourists !

What do you think?

[Neeranam]

Its amazing how many of the people on here hate the idea of being short changed in a bar, yet have no problem purchasing copyrighted material on the street.

The reason why is it so cheap, is because its stealing.

So why do you do it? Or rather, why do you get made when someone steals your wallet or overcharges you?

Hypocrites!

In Thailand, buying fake DVDs is the same as in the UK not having a dog license. Are you from the UK, did you have a dog, did you buy a license? What about smoking dope - everyone does it but it is illegal.

Don't take your western ideals and apply them here.

I don't feel like a thief, when I buy DVDs on the street. I don't get that adrenaline rush. This is Thailand and this is what people do.

If the music business has a problem then it should take it out on the manufacturers of the DVDs.

Yep, there are lots of hypocrites here - how many drunks are there that condone the use of drugs?

Whoremongers who complain about getting ripped off.

[rcm]

Hi,

I just wanted to point out, where i am living (no it isn't BKK or near any Tourist Place) i have a much wider selection on pirated CD and DVD's than i would have with the originals...

I take this even further, in terms of Software you find a lot of good pirated Software but try to find the original of it...not easy , at least where i am at.

Besides the cost of CD/DVD/Software there is simply no selection here , and i am not driving to BKK and search for originals - or legal software . I blame the distribution itself to face such a failure and promote the increased sales of Pirated CD/DVD/Software .

Control is another point where it all fails, you might say you are not allowed to buy it because it is theft or forbidden....but tell somebody in Europe (or any other place) that recreational drugs are forbidden to use, and don't check on this.

rcm

[Diablo Bob]

Let's look at the numbers.......

Let's see do I pay AutoDesk 85,000 Baht for AutoCad or the Pirate at Panthip Plaza 200 Baht?

Do I pay Microsoft 8000 Baht for Windows XP or the Pirate at Panthip Plaza 100 Baht?

Deep moral dilemma here......... Nah, I am just a cheap thieving bastard.

Maybe not everybody is in a financial position as yourself to AFFORD non-pirated software.

[britmaveric]

Pirated dvds/music/software are what they are - cheap source of entertainment for the masses. How else do you think a 3rd world country will see, listen or use music, software, and movies. It's too bloody expensive otherwise.

If companies were serious about stopping piracy - they'd drop the price point so avg people within their means would be able to participate. Until they do this piracy will continue and thrive.

BTW MI3 should be out next week on dvd!!