Ferang beggar on Walking Street!

[bigwilly]

Does anyone know the story behind this foreign guy begging on Walking Street. He could really use a shower.

[johnbarpic]

Its not Dick Whittington is it? he went seeking his fortune. was there a black cat near by.

[PeterSmiles]

Leave me alone.

[aveabeeror2]

Leave me alone.

He looks like someone I know who had his english disability benefits cancelled. He aint gunna be the only one begging in Patts.

[champers]

Leave me alone.

He looks like someone I know who had his english disability benefits cancelled. He aint gunna be the only one begging in Patts.

Looks Scottish to me with that scarf. By the way, if that guitar behind him is his, maybe he's going to be busking and not begging. Some may say there's no difference; It all depends on the quality of the music.

[champers]

Leave me alone.

He looks like someone I know who had his english disability benefits cancelled. He aint gunna be the only one begging in Patts.

Looks Scottish to me with that scarf. By the way, if that guitar behind him is his, maybe he's going to be busking and not begging. Some may say there's no difference; It all depends on the quality of the music.

Actually after a second look, that "guitar" is more likely to be a cello or double bass. Possibly the next Julian Lloyd Webber........or is it the actual Julian Lloyd Webber? Maybe he's down on his luck and his brother has disowned him.

[Skint]

Does anyone know the story behind this foreign guy begging on Walking Street. He could really use a shower.

why not ask him instead of taking a pic and posting here, much less effort.

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[Gone]

What makes you think he is begging? Maybe just taking a break? Did you talk with him?

[chiang mai]

I've seen a bunch of them over the years in different locales, they all mostly seem to be boozers who didn't know when to quit and leave and tried to extend the party, nature, the locals and Immigration tend to take care of them after a while.

[Jingthing]

Did you see those shoes?

Someone pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze call the fashion police!

[phycokiller]

Worked as an english teacher for long time. Had the wife house car etc but she got it all and he went busking. Since moving to pattaya had his guitars reguly stolen and disco vered he makes more begging. Or not. Talk to him. Hes a little eccentric but hes not voilent.

[champers]

Worked as an english teacher for long time. Had the wife house car etc but she got it all and he went busking. Since moving to pattaya had his guitars reguly stolen and disco vered he makes more begging. Or not. Talk to him. Hes a little eccentric but hes not voilent.

Not violent says Mr Phycokiller. I think I'd steer well clear all the same.

[Baerboxer]

"There but for the grace of God.......................... "

Poor bloke - who knows how easily anyone can end up in a situation like this. At least he's not thieving or selling drugs by the look of it.

[kiniyow]

Shave and haircut it appears..I have seen far worse dressed Farangs on Walking Street....Looks pretty good to me~~

[Exsexyman]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

[OMGImInPattaya]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

[Swiss1960]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

the privacy issue is not taking the picture but posting it without consent. that is a clear violation of the privacy laws. posting it with unfavorable comments (i.e. naming him a beggar) might even opening up any kind of libel suits agains you.

[Suradit69]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

the privacy issue is not taking the picture but posting it without consent. that is a clear violation of the privacy laws. posting it with unfavorable comments (i.e. naming him a beggar) might even opening up any kind of libel suits agains you.

Yes, usually on TV we wait until someone's death is reported and then turn the event into a 3-ring circus.

I guess it's OK to take anyone's photo in a public place, post it and let the "fun" begin.

Now all we need is someone who's intrepid (and runs very fast) to do the rounds of bars at night, take some candid shots of people who may be a tad tipsy or doing something naughty, post it here and we can rip the poor sods apart ... or maybe this only applies to people unlikely to hire a lawyer??

It would probably increase the traffic at this website for everyone who may have "let his hair down" over the weekend and had a vague recollection of someone telling him to say cheese before a volley of flashing lights left him briefly blinded. Might even be an idea for a new call for photos for a special TV calendar.

[rhodie]

I'll give him a few baht if/when I see him. Poor guy.

I hope he gets some help.

[OMGImInPattaya]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

the privacy issue is not taking the picture but posting it without consent. that is a clear violation of the privacy laws. posting it with unfavorable comments (i.e. naming him a beggar) might even opening up any kind of libel suits agains you.

Sorry but you don't know the law...no expectation of privacy also includes publication. The labeling issue is where in Thailand at least, you may be able to make a case. Maybe that's what he was looking for and his lawyers are hard at work already.

PS: I'm looking at the front page of one of the Bangkok newspapers this morning and there is a picture of a large demonstration in Bangkok, with individuals clearly able to be identified. Do you think the paper obtained releases from the dozens of people pictured in order to be able to publish this picture?

[darrendsd]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

It might not be against the law but it certainly is impolite to do it without asking permission first and some people may become offended, and I include myself in that

This guys family at home may have no idea of the hardship he is in and become aware of it via this forum, something the guy in the photo may not wish to happen

[pattaya_girl]

"There but for the grace of God.......................... "

Poor bloke - who knows how easily anyone can end up in a situation like this. At least he's not thieving or selling drugs by the look of it.

Well said Baerboxer... I agree !

[OMGImInPattaya]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

It might not be against the law but it certainly is impolite to do it without asking permission first and some people may become offended, and I include myself in that

This guys family at home may have no idea of the hardship he is in and become aware of it via this forum, something the guy in the photo may not wish to happen

Agree about courtesy...but just commenting on the law. The photo may also prompt the family to send help.

[darrendsd]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

It might not be against the law but it certainly is impolite to do it without asking permission first and some people may become offended, and I include myself in that

This guys family at home may have no idea of the hardship he is in and become aware of it via this forum, something the guy in the photo may not wish to happen

Agree about courtesy...but just commenting on the law. The photo may also prompt the family to send help.

He may not want help, either way his photo with him in obvious hardship should not be posted here, it could cause him more problems.

[Swiss1960]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

the privacy issue is not taking the picture but posting it without consent. that is a clear violation of the privacy laws. posting it with unfavorable comments (i.e. naming him a beggar) might even opening up any kind of libel suits agains you.

Sorry but you don't know the law...no expectation of privacy also includes publication. The labeling issue is where in Thailand at least, you may be able to make a case. Maybe that's what he was looking for and his lawyers are hard at work already.

PS: I'm looking at the front page of one of the Bangkok newspapers this morning and there is a picture of a large demonstration in Bangkok, with individuals clearly able to be identified. Do you think the paper obtained releases from the dozens of people pictured in order to be able to publish this picture?

Taking a picture of somebody in a public place is one thing. Uploading it in a public place like TV is another thing. Of course, privacy laws for pictures taken in public places are depending on country specific laws, however using the picture in the way you did is clearly not permissible. The person you did photograph is in no way a public figure, did not consent to being exposed in such indecent and humiliating manner and therefore could sue you outright. You are misusing his picture and his misfortune for whatever private reason you have. Just shows a lack of decency on your side, as others aready outlined.

The difference is when I go to a public demonstration and the photographer takes pictures and publishes them. By going to a newsworthy event, the people attending are aware of and do implicitly agree and accept that they might be pictured during such an event.

[darrendsd]

I'm sure the OP did not mean to humiliate the guy by posting his photo here just wanted to know what his story was, some people just don't think of the consequences of posting a photo

As someone else pointed out it would be easier to ask him direct

[OMGImInPattaya]

To the OP. Did you ask his permission before posting his picture on an internet forum where it can be seen by everyone? Thought not! Shame on you. I hope you get yours some day.

He's in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. There is no need to ask permission to take a photo of someone who is out in a public place.

the privacy issue is not taking the picture but posting it without consent. that is a clear violation of the privacy laws. posting it with unfavorable comments (i.e. naming him a beggar) might even opening up any kind of libel suits agains you.

Sorry but you don't know the law...no expectation of privacy also includes publication. The labeling issue is where in Thailand at least, you may be able to make a case. Maybe that's what he was looking for and his lawyers are hard at work already.

PS: I'm looking at the front page of one of the Bangkok newspapers this morning and there is a picture of a large demonstration in Bangkok, with individuals clearly able to be identified. Do you think the paper obtained releases from the dozens of people pictured in order to be able to publish this picture?

Taking a picture of somebody in a public place is one thing. Uploading it in a public place like TV is another thing. Of course, privacy laws for pictures taken in public places are depending on country specific laws, however using the picture in the way you did is clearly not permissible. The person you did photograph is in no way a public figure, did not consent to being exposed in such indecent and humiliating manner and therefore could sue you outright. You are misusing his picture and his misfortune for whatever private reason you have. Just shows a lack of decency on your side, as others aready outlined.

The difference is when I go to a public demonstration and the photographer takes pictures and publishes them. By going to a newsworthy event, the people attending are aware of and do implicitly agree and accept that they might be pictured during such an event.

First off...I didn't post the op, which included the picture. I also never commented on the picture itself, only the legality of taking and posting it. Therefore, I'm in no legal jeopardy. As to public places, a public demonstration and sitting out in a public place are one and the same. In such situations, there is NO EXPECTATION of privacy. One's image is caught on dozens (hundreds?) of video cameras every time one steps out on a public street or into most public buildings. Have you ever been informed, let alone asked to sign a release, before your image was captured and stored?

In ones home or own property, it's a different matter.

[uptheos]

Leave me alone.

He looks like someone I know who had his english disability benefits cancelled. He aint gunna be the only one begging in Patts.

Looks Scottish to me with that scarf. By the way, if that guitar behind him is his, maybe he's going to be busking and not begging. Some may say there's no difference; It all depends on the quality of the music.

Actually after a second look, that "guitar" is more likely to be a cello or double bass. Possibly the next Julian Lloyd Webber........or is it the actual Julian Lloyd Webber? Maybe he's down on his luck and his brother has disowned him.

Nope, my son assures me that Julian was watching his beloved Leyton Orient beat Southport 5-2 on Saturday.

[pattaya_girl]

If any Laws had been broken, wouldn't Thai Visa have closed or removed the thread altogether ???

[Swiss1960]

First off...I didn't post the op, which included the picture. I also never commented on the picture itself, only the legality of taking and posting it. Therefore, I'm in no legal jeopardy. As to public places, a public demonstration and sitting out in a public place are one and the same. In such situations, there is NO EXPECTATION of privacy. One's image is caught on dozens (hundreds?) of video cameras every time one steps out on a public street or into most public buildings. Have you ever been informed, let alone asked to sign a release, before your image was captured and stored?

In ones home or own property, it's a different matter.

Being photographed is one thing and yes, you can not claim privacy when you are out on the street.

The picture being published is completely another story. If you are on a picture (i.e. during a demonstration), you can not claim privacy rights, as a demonstration is a public and newsworthy event where you know that your picture can be taken and uploaded to public domains. However, the persons on such pictures are normally not singled out.

Uploading the picture of a person, where the person is singled out and where their is no public interest in the person being singled out, is a violation of most countries privacy rights as well as a violation of ethics code for journalists.