UDD to call off rally

[JAG]

Until the next election anyway!

But then I'm sure you will be able to supply a reason why they should be denied a place in government, even if the electorate give them a majority and a mandate, you call it checks and balances don't you?

[smedly]

if you watched their dedicated TV propaganda channel today the camera was never pointed at the crowd or lack there of, maybe Skype was offline also as TS never bothered to address the .............

maybe just maybe the thai people have realised the D's in UDD are the wrong way round, they just may have wakened up

I don't see how PTP can survive this debacle, their attempt at communism has failed - I'll bet Tarit and co have booked their tickets, don't slam the door on the way out lol

be interesting to see if the DEMs get a good (and they would need to be good)financial team in to look at the books and expose exactly what went on the last two years - my guess is there are billions of baht unaccounted for and international arrest warrants will be issued - thieving barstuards

The greatest heist in history is about to be uncovered

The genuine Thai people don't realise they've just been financially raped and that is very very sad indeed

Edited November 20, 2013 by smedly

[whybother]

The whole idea of merging the administrative and legislative branches was undemocratic and, if you guys are supposed to represent democracy, then you've just won - no need to look as defeated as you look in the OP photo (except Jatuporn, who is wearing his fake political smile). You can go home now and start looking for real jobs. Unless of course, "fighting for democracy" was just a ploy all along.

Isn't "Administrative" the government and the ministries, and "Legislative" *both* houses of parliament?

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[whybother]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly.They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible.On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. :blink:Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Don't you read the news? The amnesty bill is not dead. It's just on ice for 180 (now about 170 more) days. Then the PTP can vote it in without going back to the senate.

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[rametindallas]

What a motley bunch in that photo.

[Ricardo]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

"once that bill was scrapped"

If only ! The faux-PM has desribed it as being suspended, not scrapped, that's part of the problem.

But the people voted for the current charter so where is the justification for changing it?

The constitution obviously needs to be changed. "The people voted for it" in a low turn out referendum that in the lead up to it, it was illegal to criticize it. They were handed a document (not the worst Thailand has ever seen an not too radically different from the 1997 "people's constitution" and told accept this or have no voice in what is put in place.

It needs major revisions including dealing with public figures involved in graft/corruption.

It needs major revisions in making sure that the separation of powers between Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government stay balanced.

It needs major changes giving strength to the checks and balances required for democracy.

It needs major changes in establishing constitutionally protected free speech that will overrule some organic laws regarding defamation.

It needs major changes in establishing human rights protections.

Let's hope that we see something more in line with promoting democracy and human rights next time.

Just to add, IMO the revised Constitution must also be endorsed by the people, in a national referendum.

When even the junta-appointed interim-government put the revised-Constitution to such a vote, it established a very important principle.

Major changes must satisfy that same level of democratic endorsement from the electorate.

[Robby nz]

I very much doubt that Thaksin paid for any of the red rallies this time.

Why should he when his party has control of the public purse?

All the funding would have come from Govt (tax payer) through various back doors.

And like the rice, the funding has now stopped so they all have to go back home.

Wonder if they were given return tickets or if they have to pay their own way home ?

[mrtoad]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly.They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible.On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. :blink:Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Some where in The Western world, a village is missing it's idiot.

[Mosha]

No one remember. You've helped me cross the river.....? Perhaps the smart ones took him at his word, and stayed home.

[Thait Spot]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly.They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible.On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. :blink:Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

This isn't about that. The reds have woken up. Others should too.

I've had bigger barbeques in my garden than the last turn out

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[tominbkk]

Less than a thousand UDD supporters showed up. Red Skirts, your time is over.

[gerry1011]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

 

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

 

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

 

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

 

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

 

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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[alfalfa19]

They look very sad in that photo, much like a gang of purple-assed baboons who've had their banans stolen.

[whybother]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Actually, the other paper reported 30,000. Not surprisingly, you're exaggerating. Although, looking at most of the photos, it's difficult to imagine that there are 30,000 there.

[saltandpepper]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Actually, i am not sure if I should laugh, or cry. Were you just born last month?

The reds very wise, responsible......and respectful maybe?

[Thait Spot]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

 

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

 

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

 

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

 

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

 

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Nobody listens to Suthep but he still gets massive crowds day by day?

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[thaicbr]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

 

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

 

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

 

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

 

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

 

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Yep. 60,000 people for sure..:D:lol:

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[smedly]

I think they left because they were outnumbered 50-1 - something they're not used too

[rixalex]

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

What example did the reds set in 2010 about protesting responsibly and going home?

Until the reds start accepting responsibility for their part in all the death and destruction that happened back then, i think the idea of them being the ones setting an example about responsible protesting is a complete joke.

[Local Drunk]

I wonder how many MPs, PTPs, lackeys, cronies and wannabes of Mr. T are returning his calls this morning?

Edited November 21, 2013 by Local Drunk

[moe666]

Have you noticed that there isn't much talk coming from Dubai lately

[thaicbr]

I wonder how many MPs, PTPs, lackeys, cronies and wannabes of Mr. T are returning his calls this morning? 

I imagine they all are still.... flogging a dead horse

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[gerry1011]

 

 

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

 

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

 

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

 

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

 

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

 

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

 

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Actually, the other paper reported 30,000. Not surprisingly, you're exaggerating.  Although, looking at most of the photos, it's difficult to imagine that there are 30,000 there.

Well... The edition of November 20th is still on the table. I did put my glasses on. I did turn on the light. I did not drink alcohol yesterday so I do not see things in double... And it is indeed written in the front page article: "60.000 at 8pm" and "at press time many more were still arriving".

I understand that you must be informed by Thaivisa's favorite news source and that your opinion has thus been altered by the biased reporting, or that you did maybe read an earlier issue of the other news source. In any case, I was also a bit surprised by what I read. I always thought that the other English news source was also very biased. So the difference in reporting between the two news sources was quite surprising. The Nation was sticking very well to its usual biased reporting by avoiding to mention any number of red protesters and showing only pictures of the very beginning of the rally, at the time the majority of the protesters did not arrive yet. But the other English newspaper mentioned quite big numbers and a picture of the full stadium (same article). So there might well have been much more than 60.000 + the ones still arriving at press time

Never believe what the biased newspapers tell you!

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[GentlemanJim]

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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The only way any political party orientated people can act responsibly is to do whatever it takes to get this group of stealing, thieving crooked criminals out of power.

Re, your latest post with reports of 60 000 people turning up. Forget all the newspapers and look with your eyes at the pictures of the rally. There were between 1500-3000 people at most in the stadium. Where are the pictures of full stadiums you talk about? Are you watching Red TV?

[thaicbr]

 

 

It's nice to see the reds act responsibly. They gathered to support the government. Then, after the court made its ruling, and they are satisfied with the PT's fate, they call off the rally and go home. Very wise. Very responsible. On the other side we have the Dems who rallied against an amnesty bill, and once that bill was scrapped... they decided to keep rallying... to topple the elected government this time. Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

 

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

 

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

 

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

 

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

 

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

 

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Actually, the other paper reported 30,000. Not surprisingly, you're exaggerating.  Although, looking at most of the photos, it's difficult to imagine that there are 30,000 there.

Well... The edition of November 20th is still on the table. I did put my glasses on. I did turn on the light. I did not drink alcohol yesterday so I do not see things in double... And it is indeed written in the front page article: "60.000 at 8pm" and "at press time many more were still arriving".

I understand that you must be informed by Thaivisa's favorite news source and that your opinion has thus been altered by the biased reporting, or that you did maybe read an earlier issue of the other news source. In any case, I was also a bit surprised by what I read. I always thought that the other English news source was also very biased. So the difference in reporting between the two news sources was quite surprising. The Nation was sticking very well to its usual biased reporting by avoiding to mention any number of red protesters and showing only pictures of the very beginning of the rally, at the time the majority of the protesters did not arrive yet. But the other English newspaper mentioned quite big numbers and a picture of the full stadium (same article). So there might well have been much more than 60.000 + the ones still arriving at press time

Never believe what the biased newspapers tell you!

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Try and provide one photo of the 60,000 red shirt supporters at the stadium you can choose any day from the 18th November 2013 to now. OK?

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[thaicbr]

Gerry:

The paper actually wrote " at 8pm last night, the red shirts estimated they had drawn about 60,000 supporters"

That would have made the stadium almost capacity (65,000) or 49,722 seated.

Just one picture showing the stadium at capacity... OK

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[Nickymaster]

Erm... They called it off because of the piss poor turnout, nothing more and nothing less.

They were reduced to a couple of hundred supporters.

They declared to escalate the red shirt protests onto the street. There probably would have been enough to post two at every bus stop on Sukumvit.

The Dem rally SHOULD continue, I hope they expand it, I really do. This government needs to go. Nothing to do with the amnesty bill. That was the starting point, but the underlying reason for the demos is to oust the government.

Keep up the good fight my friends. The reds are all but dead.

Uhm... I guess that the reports of TV members' favorite source of information did their best to play down the turn out of the reds, while promoting Suthep's little show as much as they can.

The other English news source surprisingly reported 60.000 people already joining and many more arriving at press time the day before the verdict. Not bad at all.

I just think the reds have been acting very wise by not prolonging the rally.

Soon the Dems will have to stop too. Most people don't even listen to Suthep anymore because he does not have a clear message of what to fight for. Apart toppling elected government, of course (read today's news)(the other one).

If the Dems follow the example of the reds and go back home it will also be acting responsibly.

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Actually, the other paper reported 30,000. Not surprisingly, you're exaggerating. Although, looking at most of the photos, it's difficult to imagine that there are 30,000 there.

Well... The edition of November 20th is still on the table. I did put my glasses on. I did turn on the light. I did not drink alcohol yesterday so I do not see things in double... And it is indeed written in the front page article: "60.000 at 8pm" and "at press time many more were still arriving".

I understand that you must be informed by Thaivisa's favorite news source and that your opinion has thus been altered by the biased reporting, or that you did maybe read an earlier issue of the other news source. In any case, I was also a bit surprised by what I read. I always thought that the other English news source was also very biased. So the difference in reporting between the two news sources was quite surprising. The Nation was sticking very well to its usual biased reporting by avoiding to mention any number of red protesters and showing only pictures of the very beginning of the rally, at the time the majority of the protesters did not arrive yet. But the other English newspaper mentioned quite big numbers and a picture of the full stadium (same article). So there might well have been much more than 60.000 + the ones still arriving at press time

Never believe what the biased newspapers tell you!

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I believe what I see. I have been to the Stadium and if there are 60,000 people inside it would be COMPLETELY packed (especially with a stage on 1 side). Please share that image of a full stadium with 60,000+ from yesterday because I never believe what a biased poster tells me.

[Teddy3943]

Every time in a certain case the constitution doesn't suit you just write another one. That's very easy with nowadays computer word processors...

[whybother]

Actually, the other paper reported 30,000. Not surprisingly, you're exaggerating. Although, looking at most of the photos, it's difficult to imagine that there are 30,000 there.

Well... The edition of November 20th is still on the table. I did put my glasses on. I did turn on the light. I did not drink alcohol yesterday so I do not see things in double... And it is indeed written in the front page article: "60.000 at 8pm" and "at press time many more were still arriving".

I understand that you must be informed by Thaivisa's favorite news source and that your opinion has thus been altered by the biased reporting, or that you did maybe read an earlier issue of the other news source. In any case, I was also a bit surprised by what I read. I always thought that the other English news source was also very biased. So the difference in reporting between the two news sources was quite surprising. The Nation was sticking very well to its usual biased reporting by avoiding to mention any number of red protesters and showing only pictures of the very beginning of the rally, at the time the majority of the protesters did not arrive yet. But the other English newspaper mentioned quite big numbers and a picture of the full stadium (same article). So there might well have been much more than 60.000 + the ones still arriving at press time

Never believe what the biased newspapers tell you!

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Actually, I said "the other paper" referring to the Bangkok Post. They said *after the fact* that 30,000 were there.

I did a search for photos of the rally at the stadium, and none of the photos showed a full stadium.

[Mosha]

The whole idea of merging the administrative and legislative branches was undemocratic and, if you guys are supposed to represent democracy, then you've just won - no need to look as defeated as you look in the OP photo (except Jatuporn, who is wearing his fake political smile). You can go home now and start looking for real jobs. Unless of course, "fighting for democracy" was just a ploy all along.

I thought Jatuporn was trying to squeeze one off, or fart.