binjalin Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 With 5 dec nearing, pressure is actually on suthep to stop protests, not yingluck. that is true coup leader Suthep has time against him and, in the long run, Thailand will never forgive him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacruden Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I suspect this december 1st victory day is the last day of the protests..... at least until after the birthday celebrations are long finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) I thought Abisit and Suthep had fallen out? It'll be a case of the "blind-eye" leading the blind? Edited November 30, 2013 by wilcopops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 A post containing Thai language has been removed as well as the replies. English is the only acceptable language, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson86 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 With 5 dec nearing, pressure is actually on suthep to stop protests, not yingluck. that is true coup leader Suthep has time against him and, in the long run, Thailand will never forgive him Thailand also will not forgive democrat party as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 With 5 dec nearing, pressure is actually on suthep to stop protests, not yingluck. that is true coup leader Suthep has time against him and, in the long run, Thailand will never forgive him Thailand also will not forgive democrat party as well. especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup and Abhisit want to lead it? shame on him - peaceful? be a REAL leader Abhisit and condemn and distance yourself NOW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup and Abhisit want to lead it? shame on him - peaceful? be a REAL leader Abhisit and condemn and distance yourself NOW How does the death of an anti-government student protester show that this is a coup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup and Abhisit want to lead it? shame on him - peaceful? be a REAL leader Abhisit and condemn and distance yourself NOW How does the death of an anti-government student protester show that this is a coup? you don't think thugs calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government and storming government ministries is an attempted coup? coup noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup and Abhisit want to lead it? shame on him - peaceful? be a REAL leader Abhisit and condemn and distance yourself NOW How does the death of an anti-government student protester show that this is a coup? you don't think thugs calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government and storming government ministries is an attempted coup? coup noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. "especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup" You said the death and violence shows this is a coup, not an attempted coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup and Abhisit want to lead it? shame on him - peaceful? be a REAL leader Abhisit and condemn and distance yourself NOW How does the death of an anti-government student protester show that this is a coup? you don't think thugs calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government and storming government ministries is an attempted coup? coup noun 1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. "especially now the amart thugs have turned violent the photos today and the death show this is a coup" You said the death and violence shows this is a coup, not an attempted coup. there is a pedantic difference I grant you but taking over government ministries and a stated goal by the outvoted DPM to 'overthrow' the democratically elected government is a coup-in-progress in anyone's book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 there is a pedantic difference I grant you but taking over government ministries and a stated goal by the outvoted DPM to 'overthrow' the democratically elected government is a coup-in-progress in anyone's book They are protests. There has only been violence between pro- and anti-government protesters. The government is still in power. If you are saying that because the goal is to overthrow a democratically elected government, it is a coup-in-progress, then the 2010 protests were a failed coup attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yingluck don't want people to get killed or injured during her reign, unlike 2010 under Abhisit. unlike 2010 under Abhisit. Absolutely, it is every politicians desire to kill a few citizens, When they can! Even if the charges are false! The fact is the Crab may very well have to call the troops out, It may even be what Suthep wants, If she doesn't want people killed She should resign or dissolve Parliament! Or she will be blamed for deaths when they happen. Suthep only needs to keep the pressure on, he doesn't need to use violence. Either the country will grind to a halt, She resigns, a coup by the people or military. But this or any other government the has behaved as this one can't stay in power much longer. Or she calls for an election and wins again. Now we have the reds flowing in to Bangkok again.... thanks alot Suthep! Or she calls for an election and wins again. If she thought she would win she would have called an election already! If you really think they would not win, you probably have far more confidence than the Democrat Party and All the Anti Government movement. I presume they are party to more confidence surveys/polls than you are, but as far as I can hear and read I have not heard any of them actually calling for dissolution and an election, I can assume this is because they unlike you, probably know they would lose. And as I have said before, why should she call an election? If whichever party wins, then the protesters come out again, what do you do?Call another election. Sets a pretty bad and unworkable precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 there is a pedantic difference I grant you but taking over government ministries and a stated goal by the outvoted DPM to 'overthrow' the democratically elected government is a coup-in-progress in anyone's book They are protests. There has only been violence between pro- and anti-government protesters. The government is still in power. If you are saying that because the goal is to overthrow a democratically elected government, it is a coup-in-progress, then the 2010 protests were a failed coup attempt. the leader is ex-DPM who says that he wants a 'peoples council' and has sought to occupy government buildings and those things were not sought in 2010 but, whatever, this is 2013 so referring back to justify amart thugs takeover of government now is pointless - you have seen the photo's? smashing buses? taxis? this is NOT a people's uprising against a dictatorship this is a democratic government loved by the majority of the Thai people and they should be allowed to conduct their business and IF people want them out they should be voted out at the next election THIS is a DPM who LOST and seeks power through violence and intimidation and an Ex-PM who is an obvious opportunist who sees his "chance" and jumps on the bandwagon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xminator Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I want to see that, so please arrest Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson86 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 The main culprit for these protests is Yingluck's poor decision to push for amnesty bill to include Thaksin as well, which is obviously a major controversy. However, it's also Suthep's poor decision to escalate this issue further since all these protests hurt Thailand's economy and across all levels of society. It is actually better for everyone if they had chose to wait till the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacruden Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Before the amnesty bill was squashed - Yingluck's fault Everything after that point - Suthep's attempt to overthrow a legitimately elected government using unconstitutional means - Suthep's fault ----- They are lucky I am not head of the army..... You want martial law .... fine.... but beware the leaders of all sides will be executed summarily for treason as my first act under martial law. Edited December 1, 2013 by cacruden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I would think if Abhisit yet again wants to sneak in as PM, he would be better to distance himself from the likes of Suthtep who appears to be having a severe bout of megalomania. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I wonder how many times in the past few days Abhisit whilst having to listen to this loony Suthep has done a facepalm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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