Thai military chief rebuffs protesters' intervention plea

[dukebowling]

You are kidding me right?

PTP have wanted to make several changes to the constitution using their majority tactics, as they already own most of the senate through corruption.

That isn't enough. They want to own the entire senate and buy off most of the lower house by kissing coalition ass.

Then we won't forget that they also want the senate to be composed of family members of the PTP MPs and the remainder of the Shinawatra clan who are not already involved.

Yes, that is not only totally unconstitutional, it is bordering on dictatorship.

The constitution is there to prevent manipulation of the demcratic system and is failing miserably, hence it needs overhauled, but not in the way Thaksin wants it... Unless of course you totally agree with a Shin Dictatorship hidden behind a tissue thin facade of a democracy.

I think you are the one who needs to read up.

Communism would be better than this, and that failed worldwide.

If the people elect every brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, first cousin, second cousin or fertilized egg in the Thaksin family, it is democracy and the voice of the people. Just because the minority doesn't like who is in power, doesn't give them an authority to change the rules, unless, of course, they do it by democratic means.

Some members of the constitutional court have a dark agenda. It was a close 5-4 vote to overturn the Senate change. Hopefully, next time, they will come to their senses and do the right thing and either stay out of it (which is what they are suppose to do) or reaffirm the changes passed according to the current (although flawed) constitution.

Edited December 14, 2013 by dukebowling

[brit1984]

There is no hope of a STABLE political situation being achieved in Thailand until either side modernize by ridding themselves of those individuals tainted by histories of corruption / cheating (including, but not limited to, Thaksin and Suthep) and set themselves up (and present themselves) in such a way that all the people (including supporters of the opposition) can accept that they came to power, and are using their power, in a fair and proper way (notwithstanding that obviously some will not agree with particular policies / ideological themes).

I don't think there is much value in either side (either the government or the opposition) listing / explaining / shouting about the historical wrongdoings of the other side, as by now the shortcomings on both sides are well known. Rather, the focus on both sides should now be on identifying, accepting and fixing their own problems, and convincing the electorate as a whole (not just their own fanatics) that they are the best party for the FUTURE (rather than this never ending, negative and by now quite pointless discussion / argument / bickering about who was the worst in the past).

[rreddin]

This decision will make things worse, not better. My tortoise told me so.

Suthep can forget help from the military, Thaksin has got to them first with his blood soaked money.

It is now down to the people.

Yes, it is up to the thai people to decide in the general election. As for the rest of you comment - it is total <deleted>! The military know that if they intervene to support any party they will be in a now win situation and most likely will do more harm than good. Political neutrality is their best and safest bet.

[icare999]

" from previous poster

You are kidding me right?

PTP have wanted to make several changes to the constitution using their majority tactics, as they already own most of the senate through corruption.

That isn't enough. They want to own the entire senate and buy off most of the lower house by kissing coalition ass.

Then we won't forget that they also want the senate to be composed of family members of the PTP MPs and the remainder of the Shinawatra clan who are not already involved.

Yes, that is not only totally unconstitutional, it is bordering on dictatorship. "

I hardly think bordering it is dictatorship which is exactly what Taksin and bios clan cronies are planning to get. Those to blind to see that are totally deluded but then most people did not see what Hitler, Idi Amin, Mugabwie and rest were up to until it was to late

[473geo]

One of the main issues is rather than have an independent stand alone audit process, we have the dubious actions of the constitutional court showing objection by making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians. Thus the decision making process is flawed. The constitutional court should not have the power to halt progress, this is why the control and 'checks and balances' needs a separate entity. The Thai system as it is actually condones the 'abuse of power' in many areas due to the flimsy interpretations of the archaic laws that can be utilised in many arena. Not to mention of course the immunity which is available to not just politicians, and who brought that little gem into the process? Who supported it? and why was it required?

But the constitutional court is doing the job it is charged with doing.... banning corrupt and slimy politicians and their unconstitutional ways.

Thaksin and his PTP have got too comfortable in the thought that they have absolute power to do whatever they want in Thailand.

It HAS to stop, and this is unfortunately the only way to do it.

So tell me why the senate cannot be elected but must remain 50% appointed,.....against the constitution? there is no democracy in Thailand with the current constitution you wish to continue to be protected. Before you respond I suggest you read it!

You are kidding me right?

PTP have wanted to make several changes to the constitution using their majority tactics, as they already own most of the senate through corruption.

That isn't enough. They want to own the entire senate and buy off most of the lower house by kissing coalition ass.

Then we won't forget that they also want the senate to be composed of family members of the PTP MPs and the remainder of the Shinawatra clan who are not already involved.

Yes, that is not only totally unconstitutional, it is bordering on dictatorship.

The constitution is there to prevent manipulation of the demcratic system and is failing miserably, hence it needs overhauled, but not in the way Thaksin wants it... Unless of course you totally agree with a Shin Dictatorship hidden behind a tissue thin facade of a democracy.

I think you are the one who needs to read up.

Communism would be better than this, and that failed worldwide.

Read it or shut up!

[cup-O-coffee]

Responding to calls by protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban to "stand by the people", the country's head of defence forces Thanasak Patimaprakorn said the "best way to solve the problem is through negotiation".

Perhaps I am missing something here, but isn't this an eloquent form of bribing an official of the Thai government by "suggesting to them" to break the law?

What is the difference between an insane man and an eccentric man? One is poor and one is wealthy, respectively.

What is the difference between rival student gangs killing each other and rival government gangs killing each other? Chronological age.

These people beggar the mind.

[Smokemachine]

I think everything is done. Thailand will belong to TS now and forever. Since so many people support him and his doings.

Just let it be.

It's time to chill in the bar.

Pom rak Pak thet Thai !

[GrantSmith]

One of the main issues is rather than have an independent stand alone audit process, we have the dubious actions of the constitutional court showing objection by making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians. Thus the decision making process is flawed. The constitutional court should not have the power to halt progress, this is why the control and 'checks and balances' needs a separate entity. The Thai system as it is actually condones the 'abuse of power' in many areas due to the flimsy interpretations of the archaic laws that can be utilised in many arena. Not to mention of course the immunity which is available to not just politicians, and who brought that little gem into the process? Who supported it? and why was it required?

So tell me why the senate cannot be elected but must remain 50% appointed,.....against the constitution? there is no democracy in Thailand with the current constitution you wish to continue to be protected. Before you respond I suggest you read it!

All pissing and moaning aside...

The Court ruled - as they are entitled to do so under the Constitution - that the bill violated section 68. The court also noted that there was nothing wrong with the bill itself and how it was written. It was the process in how it came to pass 3 readings. Handwritten alterations, phantom votes - aka Proxy votes, which - under the Constitution - are not allowed. Thus, the bill was in violation of the Constitution (section 291 I think they quoted, among others)

No different to farangland, America and the UK have their Supreme Court, Australia has the High Court and Germany has the Bundesverfassungsgericht aka Constitutional Court. All of whom can rule on matters of law pertaining to amendments to the respective jurisdictions constitution.

As for your assertions that the Constitutional Court is making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians, is that not what they are tasked with doing under the "checks and balances" theory? As they're not appointed by either the House or the Senate, I fail to see - at face value and sans aluminium foil hat - how they're not a separate entity.

PTP were supremely lucky to not be dissolved given the Courts ruling.

[tomacht8]

The Constitutional Court from Thailand has the jurisdiction over six broad categories of cases:

- The constitutionality of parliamentary acts

- The constitutionality of royal decrees

- The authorities of constitutional mechanisms

- The appointment and removal of public officials

- Political party issues

- The constitutionality of draft legislation
it is clear or Wiki is wrong.

Edit Post 3.
This is the original link:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/688398-bt2-trillion-loan-bill-halted-pending-court-ruling/

Edited December 14, 2013 by tomacht8

[ongchart]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

[GrantSmith]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

Got a link to this breaking story?

Given the current local time, I'd wager, Super Thep's snoring his head off right about now...

[ongchart]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

Got a link to this breaking story?

Given the current local time, I'd wager, Super Thep's snoring his head off right about now...

From Twitter, I guess we will see this in other media in the morning :

[ongchart]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

Got a link to this breaking story?

Given the current local time, I'd wager, Super Thep's snoring his head off right about now...

And this:

[GrantSmith]

Well to be fair to Super Thep, @bangkokpundit is not his twitter handle...

[GrantSmith]

And to be even fairer to Super Thep, it was Nititorn who said it and not Suthep...

[Nibbles48]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

Got a link to this breaking story?

Given the current local time, I'd wager, Super Thep's snoring his head off right about now...

From Twitter, I guess we will see this in other media in the morning :

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1387046933.102626.jpg

Hahaha.

OMG!!!!!!!

You believe a tweet???

How gullible.

[Zolt]

One of the main issues is rather than have an independent stand alone audit process, we have the dubious actions of the constitutional court showing objection by making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians. Thus the decision making process is flawed. The constitutional court should not have the power to halt progress, this is why the control and 'checks and balances' needs a separate entity. The Thai system as it is actually condones the 'abuse of power' in many areas due to the flimsy interpretations of the archaic laws that can be utilised in many arena. Not to mention of course the immunity which is available to not just politicians, and who brought that little gem into the process? Who supported it? and why was it required?

Correct, the constitution's court's powers are already dangerously broad as it is. Strictly speaking, use of public budgets should rather fall under the Anti-corruption commission, which may then forward case to the supreme administrative court. Still not ideal since none of the judiciary branches have any real oversight, but it's dangerous to concentrate all the power in one entity.

The problem with the court is also that rather than advising which decisions from the government may be sound or not in real time, they always intervene after the fact, often a year or more, and then can cause disruption by inflicting heavy, unpredictable sentences on those involved. It can make politicians and bureaucrat alike afraid of doing their work for the development in the country, simply because they never know when they are at risk of fallout or not.

[JRSoul]

Thailand's military chief on Saturday shrugged off an opposition rally leader's appeal to intervene in support of protester efforts to topple the government and install an unelected 'people's council'.

Good.

Next step.

As the greatest hope remains the Constitution Court

http://www.thaivisa....g-court-ruling/

Hopefully the court judges with a variety of parliamentary requirements to be met in the future, no matter who is in power.

Like for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that

- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.

- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible

- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.

- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.

- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.

- a strong, powerfull supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,

to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.

The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.

The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.

When public funds are used, then the public has the right to see what the representatives of the people plan to do with the money and how it was used.

It must be prevented that a country can be completely plundered by a few unethical people just because they are currently in power.

Furthermore they must lift immunity for criminals.

An untenable situation that convicted criminals gives commands to the government or sitting in the government.

Convicted corrupt people must never have again any access to public funds or offices.

Whoever wins the election, the opposition must also have control options.

That money distributed in the dark among family and friends has to stop.

One of the main issues is rather than have an independent stand alone audit process, we have the dubious actions of the constitutional court showing objection by making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians. Thus the decision making process is flawed. The constitutional court should not have the power to halt progress, this is why the control and 'checks and balances' needs a separate entity. The Thai system as it is actually condones the 'abuse of power' in many areas due to the flimsy interpretations of the archaic laws that can be utilised in many arena. Not to mention of course the immunity which is available to not just politicians, and who brought that little gem into the process? Who supported it? and why was it required?

Why so fast to dismiss an audit process, which is obviously needed? Thaksin wouldn't like it, change the subject?

[bifftastic]

This decision will make things worse, not better. My tortoise told me so.

Suthep can forget help from the military, Thaksin has got to them first with his blood soaked money.

It is now down to the people.

Agree - elections on 2nd Feb. That's when the 'people' will decide.

They won't happen, and if they did, they would be boycotted by the Dems, and the result would not be accepted by the people if the elections went ahead. The protests will ramp back up again and we will be no further forwards.

The honest people of this country will NOT accept a bent election.# again.

Not accepted by the people? Not even the people who, for the last 20 years, have not voted in a 'democrat' (and i use the term in it's very loosest sense there) government?

So by saying 'the honest people of this country will not accept a bent election' do you mean to say that, unless the 'democrats' win the election, it can't possibly be a fair one? And that people who do vote for PTP are somehow dishonest?

I expect you will revert to the 'uneducated' comments that people usually try to use in an attempt to come to terms with the fact that PTP are the most popular political party in Thailand, and will remain so if the opposition continue to provide them with the ammunition to win yet another election, despite their obvious incompetence in government.

What would be a novelty, is if they were allowed enough rope to hang themselves. You know, like they do in proper democracies.

The party I dislike has won an election, I wait for them to reveal themselves to be the incompetent fools that they are, their supporters see that they have failed, and the opposition (by presenting a better case to the electorate) wins the next election.

I really think it's time that the opposition used a dictionary to look up the term 'democrat'.

Then they could either change their ways, or at least change their name and give everyone a fair chance of seeing them for what they really are.

Maybe something like 'Minority Elite Party' or 'Born to Lead' or maybe 'The People's Revolutionary Capitalist Dictatorship Party' just to make it clearer to outsiders what they stand for.

[JAG]

Suthep has certainly lost his mind - he just threatened to besiege the US Embassy for not siding with his non-democratic PDRC! How deranged can a politician be?? And who are the 'people' supporting him?

I have come to the conclusion that Suthep must have been on a special course - nobody could be that barking naturally!

[Halion]

Thailand's military chief on Saturday shrugged off an opposition rally leader's appeal to intervene in support of protester efforts to topple the government and install an unelected 'people's council'.

Good.

Next step.

As the greatest hope remains the Constitution Court

http://www.thaivisa....g-court-ruling/

Hopefully the court judges with a variety of parliamentary requirements to be met in the future, no matter who is in power.

Like for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that

- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.

- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible

- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.

- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.

- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.

- a strong, powerfull supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,

to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.

The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.

The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.

When public funds are used, then the public has the right to see what the representatives of the people plan to do with the money and how it was used.

It must be prevented that a country can be completely plundered by a few unethical people just because they are currently in power.

Furthermore they must lift immunity for criminals.

An untenable situation that convicted criminals gives commands to the government or sitting in the government.

Convicted corrupt people must never have again any access to public funds or offices.

Whoever wins the election, the opposition must also have control options.

That money distributed in the dark among family and friends has to stop.

This would indeed go a very long way to provide clarity and transparency within the handling of all Government projects. The complete removal of corruption is simply not practical as it is sadly part of the human condition, however, stringent procedures, oversight and punitive punishment, including the exclusion from public office for life for those caught in malfeasant acts would go a very long way towards to rectifying the ills that beset the country, furthermore, this is not revolutionary thinking as it should have been in such a format since the beginning.

Corruption and self interest in Thailand are like white ants in furniture. Serious and irreversible damage are caused unless they are eradicated

[espinoza]

"Suthep said he wanted Yingluck to step down before the election, creating a "power vacuum" that could be filled by his proposed handpicked council." Very democratic indeed ! Heil Suthep, der Furer.

[chuang]

Shrugged off by the military..so when is the mad man going to order their arrest for disobeying his order....

[Baerboxer]

Now we know what he really want. He said "We can keep on fighting for a year and more people will join, but I know that it will affect the economy," but for me this is an excuse due to he know if he prolong this, people will start to go off and he will lose everything. People know that in a democratic country, the last is to dissolve the parliament and proceed with general election where really the people power come in (Don't tell me on vote buying or corruption. This is all BS, people are not stupid). Next he say "setting up a 400-member people's council, with 100 of the members appointed by the PDRC," with this what he plan and know about democracy? or with this statement we know that he want his hand on the power for himself? and now he "urged rural doctors across the country to work with people from various professions in setting up provincial PDRC units and discuss the reform of the country," now he act on behalf as the King to tell civil servant and people what to do.

All I can see from him is just influence people with ideas and promises but do not know what to do and how to be done. For me, he really need to know what is the different between democracy and dictatorship.

For me, your last sentence says it all. Does anyone in Thailand really know the difference? Yet, I have so many Thai friends who have degrees and master degrees in political science ! Its a very popular degree here, and many have achieved them at foreign universities.

All know the current electoral and system is flawed, as is the parliamentary checks and balances. PTP want to keep the bits that they can easily manipulate to favor themselves and change the other parts that don't favor them. Suthep knows this needs changing, but doesn't have a clue how to change it, or what it should look like. So he reverts back to a dictatorship type approach albeit softened by allowing what he considers a representative peoples' council. The military, quite sensibly know this isn't the answer, and that more real negotiation and hard thinking is required.

The problem with all this is Thaksin and Suthep. One is a self centered megalomaniac who has demonstrated sociopathic tendencies in his quest for all out power and totally dominates the party he owns and rules. The other is a front man for less visible old money power who has become carried away with his/there vision of a Thailand run by elites and those deemed socially worthy. These, and their parties are hardly likely to enter any discussions or negotiations with the interest of the people and country at heart are they? They will have their own agendas - absolute power and control for their own benefit and revenge on their opponents.

Until this changes, the merry go round will continue. The military know that another coup isn't the answer. The legal system, enforcement of law, fairly to all, by a professional police force and impartial judiciary and bar all need to be established. Political parties, whoever they are, must respect the law, the constitution, parliamentary procedures and be subject to public scruitiny and transparency, especially in financial matters.

The corruption is so endemic and enshrined here that there's little hope of change. If the military stay out, Thaksin will dig deep in the coffers to ensure his party win. All the old gang have finished their bans now so he can bring them back. The 2,2 trillion and 350 million will be used to pay off the farmers, replenish the clan coffers, and oil the wheels. Laws will be changed to favor the clan and keep them in power. If the military come in, a small number of people will rule Thailand as their own fiefdom, as they have done for a long time already. Both groups will continue to ruthlessly use and exploit the Thai people, whilst paying homage to their Chinese ancestors.

What a shit choice the poor Thai people actually have.

[tomross46]

It ain't over 'till the Fat Lady sings ;-)

Who is the fat lady? The Whopper?

[473geo]

"Suthep said he wanted Yingluck to step down before the election, creating a "power vacuum" that could be filled by his proposed handpicked council." Very democratic indeed ! Heil Suthep, der Furer.

And the 'democrats' if refusing to take part in the next election would be attempting to create exactly the same vacuum....and who would they expect to step in?.....sad isn't it.....well done the military making their position clear, elections are the way to go........

Of course there is still the option that the constitutional court will ban all the non democrat parties, in the interests of 'checks and balances' of course......unfortunately this only gained the Democrats a very undemocratic short term in government and ended badly the last time as they clung to their 'unelected' occupation of government status

Compliments to PTP for immediately stepping down rather than escalate the protest situation....good move...I can visualise the base of the next election campaign......PTP listened to the people.....the Democrats created live fire zones

[Loles]

I have not any idea what is the expection of yellow mob?

If army has to take care of power they (army) kicks behind of yellow mob also and drives them home.

These people can't see clear, that's pretty sure.

Just remember when they wanted to attack Cambo about controversial area ....

[wwest5829]

Thailand's military chief on Saturday shrugged off an opposition rally leader's appeal to intervene in support of protester efforts to topple the government and install an unelected 'people's council'.

Good.

Next step.

As the greatest hope remains the Constitution Court

http://www.thaivisa....g-court-ruling/

Hopefully the court judges with a variety of parliamentary requirements to be met in the future, no matter who is in power.

Like for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that

- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.

- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible

- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.

- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.

- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.

- a strong, powerfull supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,

to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.

The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.

The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.

When public funds are used, then the public has the right to see what the representatives of the people plan to do with the money and how it was used.

It must be prevented that a country can be completely plundered by a few unethical people just because they are currently in power.

Furthermore they must lift immunity for criminals.

An untenable situation that convicted criminals gives commands to the government or sitting in the government.

Convicted corrupt people must never have again any access to public funds or offices.

Whoever wins the election, the opposition must also have control options.

That money distributed in the dark among family and friends has to stop.

One of the main issues is rather than have an independent stand alone audit process, we have the dubious actions of the constitutional court showing objection by making random decisions to ban/suspend/control the politicians. Thus the decision making process is flawed. The constitutional court should not have the power to halt progress, this is why the control and 'checks and balances' needs a separate entity. The Thai system as it is actually condones the 'abuse of power' in many areas due to the flimsy interpretations of the archaic laws that can be utilised in many arena. Not to mention of course the immunity which is available to not just politicians, and who brought that little gem into the process? Who supported it? and why was it required?

But the constitutional court is doing the job it is charged with doing.... banning corrupt and slimy politicians and their unconstitutional ways.

Thaksin and his PTP have got too comfortable in the thought that they have absolute power to do whatever they want in Thailand.

It HAS to stop, and this is unfortunately the only way to do it.

I "liked" the original statement due to calling for some steps in the right direction (yes, allowing that I am coming from my foreign point of view). I am disappointed to see a Thaksin directed comment. No, not defending that past record but rather recognizing that the concern extends to others as well, Suthep and members of the Thai Democrats included. I fear that the Thai history of social respect and ranking will need a major readjustment (and that will take time). Neither the low so nor high so, in my humble opinion, are adjusted to the idea that respect is needed for both an individuals knowledge and status with due respect for each citizen as an equal member of society. Add to that the gross and growing disparity of wealth and, well, I am not encouraged.

[farangbanok]

From OP [.... royalist elite]

If indeed they were actually Royalist the elite would have put down Suthep as soon as he went against the King's Decree for an election in February.

At every turn - or flapping of his gargantuan mouth - he refuses to accept the King's wishes, nay Decree.

Every day he re-iterates his refusal to do as his King wishes, and yet still the Royalists support him.

This is thainess???? Or fear of a low grade thug.

Edited December 15, 2013 by farangbanok

[Carrerakiss]

Thailand's military chief on Saturday shrugged off an opposition rally leader's appeal to intervene in support of protester efforts to topple the government and install an unelected 'people's council'.

Good.

Next step.

As the greatest hope remains the Constitution Court

http://www.thaivisa....g-court-ruling/

Hopefully the court judges with a variety of parliamentary requirements to be met in the future, no matter who is in power.

Like for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that

- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.

- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible

- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.

- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.

- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.

- a strong, powerfull supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,

to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.

The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.

The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.

When public funds are used, then the public has the right to see what the representatives of the people plan to do with the money and how it was used.

It must be prevented that a country can be completely plundered by a few unethical people just because they are currently in power.

Furthermore they must lift immunity for criminals.

An untenable situation that convicted criminals gives commands to the government or sitting in the government.

Convicted corrupt people must never have again any access to public funds or offices.

Whoever wins the election, the opposition must also have control options.

That money distributed in the dark among family and friends has to stop.

Dream on