Pheu Thai lodges petition with Court to dissolve Democrat party

[ianf]

Good for them,why shouldn't they use the due process of law?

Because they are always trying to dissolve this court and campaign against it all the time. The hypocrisy comes from using this tool which they themselves call unconstitutional (or something). They really are unbelievable.

[Nibbles48]

They should ban the Democrats on their own without ask the CC. Since they can reject the CC, why now ask CC to ban them?

The picture is getting clearer. The TS regime is getting larger and uncontrollable. They have been showing they are above the laws numerous times. Even now the new uniform head leaders are siding them.

I think THailand is going to have a President soon. All the lackeys will welcome TS on the red carpet.

Fortunately for everyone involved, you are wrong.

So far as I can see, PTP and the TS regime is getting weaker by the day.

The Military top brass only 'appear' to side with them because they were hand picked by TS in the first place, as a matter of fact, they were put in place just prior to the amnesty bill hitting the house. This shows it was all part of the plan.

Fortunately for Thailand, there are a much stronger core of the military (both past and present) who are firmly NOT on the side of this rabble, and this will all become clear in good time.

There are very influential elements that are in fact on the side of the protesters and one word from them and you just watch them spring into action.

The PTP are a spent force, they may win an election because they have managed to fool the silly northern farm yokels and are able to spew taxpayer's money into the bank accounts of all the village chiefs. But as a force in politics, the writing is on the wall.

Sure... Quite a few people spout on about the protesters and their 'crazy' leader and unjust mission, but they are the people who are in the ascendancy, they are also not the ones who are coming out with desperate attempts to destabilize their political opponents, the PTP mob are doing it.... several times a day in fact.

Just read through all the threads in this news section.... PDRC are making demands, PTP are making 'attempts'.

Edited December 16, 2013 by Nibbles48

[waza]

The PTP are trying to manipulate the CC to do their dirty work for them as they dont have the bottle to do it themselves. They are so afraid of bad publicity that will effect foreign investment and further alienate their supporter base that they will try any scheme no matter how whacky.

[ggold]

If this happens forget any election. The south will not vote in sufficient numbers.

If it happens then forget about an election, as there won't be an opposition to fight it! Welcome to the PTP dictatorship.

[FangFerang]

Is there a Thai word for "hypocrisy"?

Mai pen rai

[Baerboxer]

Good for them,why shouldn't they use the due process of law?

They should. And that means accepting decisions that don't favor themselves. It also means they should account for their illegal actions and answer the questions they've been ignoring.

Glad you agree.

[FangFerang]

Get real. Just because you chose to ignore your side's shortcomings does not make your 'opinion's' valid. It makes you laughable. PTP is dirty. So is the other side.

Live with it. There are no heroes here. Actually, there are no heroes.

Edited December 16, 2013 by FangFerang

[ikke]

Goog good good.

If the dusty, old, creepy Democrat Party is gone, maybe a new, better, more forward thinking party will replace it.

If enough of the old guard is out of politics for a while, a new generation of Democrats may even prefer to work at winning elections, rather than to rely on dirty tricks and the mob rule.

That would be a big step forward.

A new generation Democrat party, Suthep and Abhisit gone forever, a plan for the country, which they never had, and the will to also win the hearts of the people.

I wish them to be dissolved so that they can finally reform themselves. That is what is needed.

In the meantime, let PT do the serious things

Good post, at least someone understands whats going on... sure you will get some negative replies, but they will mostly come from the under educated side.....

[livingthedream]

Didn't all the Democrat MPs

pre-emptively resign en masse in an attempt to outflank this inevitable tactical manoeuvre?

[tomacht8]

Incredibly stupid.

Singthong Buachum, Pheu Thai lawyer, charged the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), of which former Democrat MP Suthep Thaugsuban is secretary general, with using weapons in their protests and seizing government buildings.

For such cases, the Constitution Court is not responsible.
Sorry wrong court.

Edited December 16, 2013 by tomacht8

[thairookie]

Isn't Prompong Nopparit in jail now?

And gee, I thought you guys didn't recognize the power of the constitutional court? Now you're using it against the Dems?

Will you accept their judgement only if they dissolve the Dems?

You're right. The fact that PT didn't recognise the power of the Constitutional Court should only be used by the Democrats against PT whenever the Democrats were being accused of violating the laws.

It's like having two vehicles beating the traffic lights one after the other. The traffic police didn't stop the first one, and when they tried to issue a ticket against the second one, the second one didn't think that beating the traffic lights per se was against the traffic laws simply because the first one was not booked.

[bigbamboo]

Why not? Let's dissolve all the political parties for persistent corruption and general malpractice (supporting protests, cheating in parliamentary votes etc.) and start afresh with all members of those parties banned for ten years.

As Confucius used to say... a new bloom sweeps crean.

[GrantSmith]

Didn't all the Democrat MPs pre-emptively resign en masse in an attempt to outflank this inevitable tactical manoeuvre?

Indeed they did resign en-masse presumably to curtail any attempts by PT to request the DP be dissolved.

As has been mentioned, it's a little farcical of PT to now recognise the legitimacy of the Constitutional Court and as such press ahead with a case in said Court.

The article doesn't mention what the charge before the Court is, save for a possible hint of malfeasance perhaps, but again it's not made clear what the DP is alleged to have done.

So perhaps Super Thep was right when he prophesied about the elections not occurring on the 2nd, the Courts will be too busy dealing with cases of malfeasance for either the DP or PT to stand for election.

Best choose your own adventure story I've ever read!

[Mosha]

If this happens forget any election. The south will not vote in sufficient numbers.

If it happens then forget about an election, as there won't be an opposition to fight it! Welcome to the PTP dictatorship.

Last time the army took over.

[Thait Spot]

Goog good good.

If the dusty, old, creepy Democrat Party is gone, maybe a new, better, more forward thinking party will replace it.

If enough of the old guard is out of politics for a while, a new generation of Democrats may even prefer to work at winning elections, rather than to rely on dirty tricks and the mob rule.

That would be a big step forward.

A new generation Democrat party, Suthep and Abhisit gone forever, a plan for the country, which they never had, and the will to also win the hearts of the people.

I wish them to be dissolved so that they can finally reform themselves. That is what is needed.

In the meantime, let PT do the serious things

Googy googy goo.

[Baerboxer]

Goog good good.

If the dusty, old, creepy Democrat Party is gone, maybe a new, better, more forward thinking party will replace it.

If enough of the old guard is out of politics for a while, a new generation of Democrats may even prefer to work at winning elections, rather than to rely on dirty tricks and the mob rule.

That would be a big step forward.

A new generation Democrat party, Suthep and Abhisit gone forever, a plan for the country, which they never had, and the will to also win the hearts of the people.

I wish them to be dissolved so that they can finally reform themselves. That is what is needed.

In the meantime, let PT do the serious things

Good post, at least someone understands whats going on... sure you will get some negative replies, but they will mostly come from the under educated side.....

Let PT do the serious things - what like whitewash the crook in Dubai and bring him home to a hero's welcome? All on taxpayers' money of course. Give him back the money he stole with interest, and then set about plundering the 2.2. trillion. Great idea!

Interesting that supporters of criminal dictatorships, throughout history, claim that people will different views must be uneducated or mentally ill. You'll fit right in with the dear leader's stooges.

[GeorgeO]

Isn't Prompong Nopparit in jail now?

And gee, I thought you guys didn't recognize the power of the constitutional court? Now you're using it against the Dems?

Will you accept their judgement only if they dissolve the Dems?

Indeed...! Given that he was found guilty, and since the sentence was not suspended, how on earth is he still representing this "government"?

[GrantSmith]

Isn't Prompong Nopparit in jail now?

And gee, I thought you guys didn't recognize the power of the constitutional court? Now you're using it against the Dems?

Will you accept their judgement only if they dissolve the Dems?

Indeed...! Given that he was found guilty, and since the sentence was not suspended, how on earth is he still representing this "government"?

Just giving the Constitutional Court more evidence to support their future dissolution of PT. Tying it all in a nice little bow really...

[Bluespunk]

'Thailand's ruling Pheu Thai Party today lodged a petition with the Constitution Court, seeking to ban the current anti-government demonstrations and dissolve their opponent, the Democrat Party, for supporting the protests.'

What? Again?

[Robby nz]

TVGerry, on 16 Dec 2013 - 16:58, said:

Isn't Prompong Nopparit in jail now?

And gee, I thought you guys didn't recognize the power of the constitutional court? Now you're using it against the Dems?

Will you accept their judgement only if they dissolve the Dems?

Indeed...! Given that he was found guilty, and since the sentence was not suspended, how on earth is he still representing this "government"?

It would seem George that it makes him even more qualified.

Look at the other red leaders, 11 isn't it ? Who are either PT MP"s or have cabinet posts, are they not out on bail, some on charges of terrorism no less ?

Then there are the 2 lots totaling something like 200 who have come back from 5 year suspension, how many of them have applied to join PT ?

They will be fighting for electorate seats, list positions or cabinet posts.

We also have Plodprasop who is still on bail for charges of selling endangered wildlife.

And the list goes on.

If PT were to get back in we would have a govt comprised almost exclusively of those who have some sort of a criminal record.

What a great example they set for the youth of the country.

[falangadang]

This is what the Dems should have done as soon as PTP raised its head.

They could have had the party removed from the ballot if they had petitioned the court on the basis that Yingluch being related to a convicted criminal and political antagonist of Thailand had a vested interest in gaining power.

I think that this may have crossed Abhisit's mind but he chose not to rock the Red Shirt's boat by disqualifying their party prior to the election and he just hoped (expected) he would regain power. This has proved to be a massive mistake on his part.

If not before the last election then certainly after it when they had evidence of him pulling strings and arranging meetings and phone ins with his sister and key ministers.

Edited December 17, 2013 by falangadang

[Halion]

Good for them,why shouldn't they use the due process of law?

Totally agree, except they seem only capable of accepting and abiding by the law when it suits their purpose.

Total hypocrisy.

[ggold]

If this happens forget any election. The south will not vote in sufficient numbers.

If it happens then forget about an election, as there won't be an opposition to fight it! Welcome to the PTP dictatorship.

Last time the army took over.

Yes but this time they may not take over! least ways not untill people start killing each other!

Edited December 17, 2013 by ggold

[tingtongteesood]

Good for them,why shouldn't they use the due process of law?

We shall add you to the list of hippocrites then. If you can't understand what the adults are saying then just keep your mouth shut...

[Smokemachine]

They should ban the Democrats on their own without ask the CC. Since they can reject the CC, why now ask CC to ban them?

The picture is getting clearer. The TS regime is getting larger and uncontrollable. They have been showing they are above the laws numerous times. Even now the new uniform head leaders are siding them.

I think THailand is going to have a President soon. All the lackeys will welcome TS on the red carpet.

Fortunately for everyone involved, you are wrong.

So far as I can see, PTP and the TS regime is getting weaker by the day.

The Military top brass only 'appear' to side with them because they were hand picked by TS in the first place, as a matter of fact, they were put in place just prior to the amnesty bill hitting the house. This shows it was all part of the plan.

Fortunately for Thailand, there are a much stronger core of the military (both past and present) who are firmly NOT on the side of this rabble, and this will all become clear in good time.

There are very influential elements that are in fact on the side of the protesters and one word from them and you just watch them spring into action.

The PTP are a spent force, they may win an election because they have managed to fool the silly northern farm yokels and are able to spew taxpayer's money into the bank accounts of all the village chiefs. But as a force in politics, the writing is on the wall.

Sure... Quite a few people spout on about the protesters and their 'crazy' leader and unjust mission, but they are the people who are in the ascendancy, they are also not the ones who are coming out with desperate attempts to destabilize their political opponents, the PTP mob are doing it.... several times a day in fact.

Just read through all the threads in this news section.... PDRC are making demands, PTP are making 'attempts'.

When we can see the NACC proceed to arrest the individuals with corruptions charges, then it really means they are going down.

Otherwise they are still very strong as before.

Online there is a video clip of a conference showing i think they are reporters or which agencies questioning Jatupong and another fellow about the rice scam scheme, they can't even say out the actual figure of selling, profit and loss. When they give some figures,they thought they can pass through. People start to drill them with extensive questions about the figures. They only keep giving lame explanations. And look at their body language, its already unconsciously admitting something is going on. I believe in the conference meeting room, people have already see through them. But until now no one is in deep trouble yet. Is it because NACC still ongoing investigate? Or already investigate but always the same reason EVIDENCE NOT ENOUGH?? If their power has lessen, then we should have see NACC actions soon.