Caretaker PM Yingluck officially proposes "Thailand Reform Council"

[scorecard]

Protest-hit Thai PM proposes national reform council

by Boonradom Chitradon

BANGKOK, December 25, 2013 (AFP) - Thailand's prime minister proposed a "national reform council" Wednesday to seek a way out of the political crisis gripping the kingdom, following weeks of mass street protests against her government.

Yingluck Shinawatra said the body would be set up in parallel with a February 2 general election to recommend constitutional amendments, economic and legal reforms and anti-corruption measures.

"It is now time to develop a mechanism to push forward and mobilise national reform," she said in an address to the nation.

But the plan was immediately rejected by protest leaders who want reforms before elections, in a bid to curb the political influence of the prime minister's family.

Yingluck "is not sincere about reform", said a spokesman for the protest movement, Akanat Promphan.

"The prime minister can show her responsibility and sacrifice by stepping down so that the reform process can begin," he added.

In recent weeks tens of thousands of protesters have taken to the streets of Bangkok seeking to oust Yingluck's elected government and install an unelected "people's council" in its place.

The premier has called a snap election for February 2 to try to ease tensions, but the main opposition Democrat Party -- which has not won an elected majority in about two decades -- has vowed to boycott the vote.

The Democrat-backed protesters are demanding loosely-defined reforms -- such as an end to alleged "vote buying" as well as anti-graft measures -- before new elections are held in around a year to 18 months.

The political conflict broadly pits a Bangkok-based middle class and elite against rural and poor voters loyal to Yingluck's brother Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted as prime minister in a coup in 2006 and lives in self-exile.

Protesters accuse Thaksin, a billionaire tycoon turned politician, of controlling his sister's government from his home in Dubai.

Even some of Yingluck's supporters criticised the proposed selection process for the 499-member reform council, which will be supervised by 11 representatives from the military, civil service, business and other sectors.

"All 11 people are from the Thai elite and have nothing to do with the Thai people," said Thida Thavornseth, chairwoman of the "Red Shirt" political movement which is broadly loyal to Thaksin.

"This could cool the political temperature but in reality only the people want reform -- not the elite," she said, stressing the importance of the February election.

The protesters have tried to stop candidates signing up for the election by blocking the entrances to the stadium serving as a registration venue. Demonstrators tried to force their way into the building on Wednesday, triggering scuffles with police.

Election authorities have expressed confidence that candidates will be able to register in time.

But the demonstrators have vowed to keep up their campaign to disrupt the polls, with protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban threatening to "shut down the country" to prevent people voting.

Pro-Thaksin parties have won every election since 2001, most recently with a landslide victory under Yingluck two years ago, and analysts doubt the opposition would win the February polls if it took part.

The recent protests have left five people dead and more than 200 wounded in street violence, although tensions have abated recently.

It is the worst unrest since 2010, when more than 90 civilians were killed in a bloody military crackdown on "Red Shirt" protests under the previous Democrat Party-led government.

Yingluck's cabinet on Wednesday extended a special security law for two more months to cope with the protests.

The law, known as the Internal Security Act, gives the police additional powers to block routes, ban gatherings, carry out searches and impose a curfew, although not all the measures have been used.

At least 150,000 people joined the latest anti-Thaksin mass protest in the capital on Sunday, according to security officials. Organisers said the turnout was much higher.

-- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-12-25

And again AFP publish a piece with is loose on the truth.

[Ulic]

499 member council ? Must be some kind of lucky number.

[tingtongteesood]

The cake is only so big. Both sides want it all. Shinawatra clan have had the cake for 10 or 11 of the last 13 years. Others want to have some. If the Reform Council can address this fundamental issue, there is hope for an end to the conflict.

Not everyone is as utterly consumed with greed and power as Thaksin, some people do actually want to do what is best for the country, they just can't get in to have a chance to do something good because Thaksin and his brown nosers keep rigging the poles...

[tingtongteesood]

The cake is only so big. Both sides want it all. Shinawatra clan have had the cake for 10 or 11 of the last 13 years. Others want to have some. If the Reform Council can address this fundamental issue, there is hope for an end to the conflict.

The Dems/Amart had 50 years of 'cake' before Thaksin, that is why the 'people' have voted for Thaksin and his associates at every election since 2001.

The Shin regime has been rigging the poles for at least 8 of those years since 2001....3 parties caught and banned for electoral fraud and counting....

[Robby nz]

It was reported elsewhere this morning that her deputies have said it should be before the election.

Very obviously someone didn't understand the phone call.

[Emptyset]

Reform council? Selected by YS and her family? Pure fascism according to all the red yahoos on here. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

No, selected by:

1. The Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces or a representative of the Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces which may be either the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army, the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Navy, or the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Air Force

2. Two Permanent Secretary-level persons nominated from the meeting body of permanent secretaries of the ministries and head of agencies.

3. The Secretary General of the National Economic and Social Development Board.

4. One university president nominated from the meeting body of the Council of University Presidents of Thailand.

5. Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce or representative.

6. Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries or representative.

7. Chairman of the Thai Bankers’ Association or representative.

8. The Chairperson and two experts will be nominated by the above commission members.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/117627/thai-pm-proposes-national-reform-council/

This was apparently Pridiyathorn's compromise idea, Yingluck accepted, Suthep/Prawit didn't. All or nothing for them. What Scorecard said about lack of public input is true, this basically gives the amaat free reign over selection of the council. Of course the council won't have legislative power, because that isn't permitted by the constitution.

[hellodolly]

How come:

• The public / everyday citizens organizations are not on the membership list
• Public input / citizens organizations input not mentioned
• People from the current protests are not included
• No mention of how the permanent secretary level etc., representatives will be selected and whether there will be a process to object to any of the people nominated
• Public moderated debate (with no prior registration to attend) not mentioned
• A guarantee that their recommendations will be put to a referendum, and then a guarantee that the recommendations passed by the referendum WILL be implemented

Yes I was a little curios why there would not be a member of the opposition on the selecting committee. I suppose that is obvious. Maybe if there was a Shinawatra on the opposition side they could find room for one.

A special committee will be formed to organise the selection process, said Yingluck, It will specify qualifications and other conditions of those who wish to be in the 499-member council.

How much to get on the committee and do I pay to Yingluck or wire the money to Dubai?

[PeterSmiles]

Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra today proposed the formation of a 499-member Thailand Reform Council

WOW, didn't realize the Shinawatra's had that much relatives active in the politics.

[hellodolly]

The cake is only so big. Both sides want it all. Shinawatra clan have had the cake for 10 or 11 of the last 13 years. Others want to have some. If the Reform Council can address this fundamental issue, there is hope for an end to the conflict.

The Dems/Amart had 50 years of 'cake' before Thaksin, that is why the 'people' have voted for Thaksin and his associates at every election since 2001.

Why have the people been shafted in every election since 2001? I thought the Dems had not won an election since 1991

A message from Thailand.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3P8oTAQCJVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player&desktop_uri =% 2Fwatch% 3Fv% 3D3P8oTAQCJVs% 26feature% 3Dyoutube_gdata_player.

Truly a great film over one month of protesting by far more than the red shirts in 2010 and still peaceful. No guns no rocket launchers no hospital invasions just plain peaceful protesting. Red shirts pay attention learn how to protest peacefully. When you see that kind of peaceful protesting non stop for over a month with that many people you can't help but believe that they have a grievance and are willing to do some thing about it.

Couple that with the Governments daily change of plans then look at how much more dishonest they have made the government

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

and it is hard to believe that they really care about the Thai citizens.

[hellodolly]

Reform council? Selected by YS and her family? Pure fascism according to all the red yahoos on here. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

No, selected by:

1. The Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces or a representative of the Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces which may be either the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army, the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Navy, or the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Air Force

2. Two Permanent Secretary-level persons nominated from the meeting body of permanent secretaries of the ministries and head of agencies.

3. The Secretary General of the National Economic and Social Development Board.

4. One university president nominated from the meeting body of the Council of University Presidents of Thailand.

5. Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce or representative.

6. Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries or representative.

7. Chairman of the Thai Bankers’ Association or representative.

8. The Chairperson and two experts will be nominated by the above commission members.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/117627/thai-pm-proposes-national-reform-council/

This was apparently Pridiyathorn's compromise idea, Yingluck accepted, Suthep/Prawit didn't. All or nothing for them. What Scorecard said about lack of public input is true, this basically gives the amaat free reign over selection of the council. Of course the council won't have legislative power, because that isn't permitted by the constitution.

Maybe we are reading a different list. The one I read just had people from the Government side on it for choosing the council. No one from the opposition.

Did you miss the two words or representative pretty well throws the door wide open for the government. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't insist on an election first which with the present system pretty well guarantees them a reelection. Now I could be wrong about that but I don't think so. I just hope so. Wouldn't that start a civil war if the Opposition got in and had the power to pick the council. Thaksin would have to borrow money to have enough to bribe his way back in.

[NCFC]

Reform council? Selected by YS and her family? Pure fascism according to all the red yahoos on here. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

No, selected by:

1. The Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces or a representative of the Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces which may be either the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army, the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Navy, or the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Air Force

2. Two Permanent Secretary-level persons nominated from the meeting body of permanent secretaries of the ministries and head of agencies.

3. The Secretary General of the National Economic and Social Development Board.

4. One university president nominated from the meeting body of the Council of University Presidents of Thailand.

5. Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce or representative.

6. Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries or representative.

7. Chairman of the Thai Bankers’ Association or representative.

8. The Chairperson and two experts will be nominated by the above commission members.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/117627/thai-pm-proposes-national-reform-council/

This was apparently Pridiyathorn's compromise idea, Yingluck accepted, Suthep/Prawit didn't. All or nothing for them. What Scorecard said about lack of public input is true, this basically gives the amaat free reign over selection of the council. Of course the council won't have legislative power, because that isn't permitted by the constitution.

Maybe we are reading a different list. The one I read just had people from the Government side on it for choosing the council. No one from the opposition.

Did you miss the two words or representative pretty well throws the door wide open for the government. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't insist on an election first which with the present system pretty well guarantees them a reelection. Now I could be wrong about that but I don't think so. I just hope so. Wouldn't that start a civil war if the Opposition got in and had the power to pick the council. Thaksin would have to borrow money to have enough to bribe his way back in.

Where it reads "or representative" I take that to mean that if Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, for example, is unavailable then the Thai Chamber of Trade will select another person to represent that body. I don't know how you can read it as the Government will select a representative.

[Roadman]

A message from Thailand.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3P8oTAQCJVs&feature=youtube_gdata_player&desktop_uri =% 2Fwatch% 3Fv% 3D3P8oTAQCJVs% 26feature% 3Dyoutube_gdata_player.

Generally correct but also contains absolute volumes of bull crap...so find it unbalanced and not reflective. Just for example that Thaksin has so much money that he will buy the Military...there alone the article looses its credibility, when it is bloody obvious to a blind and deaf drunk, druggie that the Army and more importantly the power arm of the Army the Queens Brigade detest Thaksin.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Roadman

[Roadman]

Reform council? Selected by YS and her family? Pure fascism according to all the red yahoos on here. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

No, selected by:

1. The Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces or a representative of the Supreme Commander of the Royal Thai Armed Forces which may be either the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army, the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Navy, or the Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Air Force

2. Two Permanent Secretary-level persons nominated from the meeting body of permanent secretaries of the ministries and head of agencies.

3. The Secretary General of the National Economic and Social Development Board.

4. One university president nominated from the meeting body of the Council of University Presidents of Thailand.

5. Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce or representative.

6. Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries or representative.

7. Chairman of the Thai Bankers’ Association or representative.

8. The Chairperson and two experts will be nominated by the above commission members.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/117627/thai-pm-proposes-national-reform-council/

This was apparently Pridiyathorn's compromise idea, Yingluck accepted, Suthep/Prawit didn't. All or nothing for them. What Scorecard said about lack of public input is true, this basically gives the amaat free reign over selection of the council. Of course the council won't have legislative power, because that isn't permitted by the constitution.

I was surprised and pleased to see Thida (UDD) against Yingluck's suggestions of the 11 being elite (talk about a collapsed power base). But is that an issue? I am sure Somchai the taxi driver from Bangkok of Porn the field hand from Nakhom Nowhere is not going to have the knowledge and skills to commence the process.

Appreciate that Yingluck now has her back to the wall and there is nowhere else for her to go but to reform, and do not have a problem with that after the election first, basically as it is time for Suthep to f... off. Leopards can change their spots when their is nothing else left and I think the whole driver of this is that Thaksin now realises that Dubai is now his life time home as while he only had one powerful group against him in the Army now he has a second in the middle class who are the basic backbone of a modern society. The thing that Thaksin wants along with the power and the money is to be able to have Thailand as his home. I think as we age if the money is there then the power we can trade for home. Thaksin I think now realises that the only way he is ever going to get back into Thailand is for an amesty coming from reform cause to be quite honest if Thailand was able to be reformed then in terms of law and order and justice reform what are they going to do with all the outstanding criminal charges past, current and pending. The system would not cope trying to deal with them all.

So back to the 11. If they are elite is that an issue? Rather than every body on here poo poo ing the whole deal as the 11 all being Shinawatra clones then put people to the 11? Who are they?

Personally I think the proposal is about the best for the current situation as the control is the missing Democrat Party idiots who with nothing else constructive to do will be able to bring the Middle Class back onto the streets against Yingluck very quickly.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Roadman

[JRSoul]

499 member council ? Must be some kind of lucky number.

Possibly based on the number of MPs who regularly attend parliament.

[webfact]

POLITICS
PM unveils reform assembly plan
The Nation


Photo : Pramote Putthaisong

Govt won't be involved in setting up body, election to proceed as planned on February 2

BANGKOK: -- CARETAKER Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday floated the idea of setting up a reform assembly in parallel with preparations for the February 2 election, but analysts said it would not work, and the protest movement immediately rejected it.

On a special TV programme, Yingluck said the post-election government would be committed to continuing the work of the so-called National Reform Assembly.

She called for all sectors of society to join the assembly to lead the country out of conflict.

"My government has listened to suggestions of several sides from several forums and agrees that reforms are needed in the social, economic and political dimensions," she said.

To start the process, an 11-member committee would be set up to organise the assembly, then 2,000 people would be recruited from professional groups and organisations throughout the country. They in turn would select 499 members from among themselves for the council.

The committee formed to organise the selection process, Yingluck said, would specify qualifications and other conditions of those who wished to be on the 499-member council.

The 11-member committee would include the supreme commander of the Armed Forces, the secretary-general of the National Economic and Social Development Board, chiefs of government agencies, and the president of the Board of Trade of Thailand.

Yingluck insisted that her government would not get involved in the establishment of the assembly. The Prime Minister's Office and the interim Cabinet would only acknowledge the council, but their official approval would not be required. She did not give any indication of how long the assembly would operate, though earlier she suggested a term of two years.

Legal entity

Thongthong Chandrangsu, permanent secretary of the PM's Office Ministry, said Yingluck would need to use her authority to issue a Prime Ministerial Order to endorse the council as a legal entity, as the caretaker government has no mandate to enact any other form of law. The new government after the election could upgrade the order to a law through the parliamentary process, he said. By this weekend, Yingluck will begin the task of recruiting members of the 11-person committee to set up guidelines for establishment of the assembly, he said.

"We want to see representatives of all sectors to set the agenda for the reform. It might not be a constitutional organ, but I believe the new government will make a commitment to reform."

Anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, secretary-general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, earlier proposed a "People's Council" that would comprise 400 people, of whom 300 would come from various professional organisations and 100 would be selected by the PDRC.

He wanted Yingluck to step down and hand power over to his unelected council to carry out "reforms", which critics say have not been well defined. However, some academics also doubt the government's sincerity over the establishment of a reform assembly. A similar forum chaired by former prime minister Banharn Silapa-Archa was set up under Yingluck's government months ago but it did not work, said Thivakorn Keowmanee, of Naresuan University.

Independent academic Asdang Panikabutr said he did not oppose the idea of such a forum but was worried it might be influenced by politicians.

"Why not simply make an agreement among the political parties on what to reform after the election, and do it when they have the people's mandate?" he said. "Previously people have kept talking about reform but [there has been] no action."

PDRC spokesman Akanat Promphan said government-sponsored reform was not what the protesters wanted and it would not work. The government had just proposed it as a decoy to get support for staying in power, he said.

Ongart Klampaiboon, deputy leader of the Democrat Party, said people would not accept reforms proposed by the government.


-- The Nation 2013-12-26

[webfact]

POLITICS
Proposed National Reform Assembly
The Nation

(To be established at the order of the PM's Office Ministry)

- Primary Committee, comprising 11 members:

- Chairman (to be selected by the members from among their ranks)

- Supreme Commander, or a representative

- Two government officials at the permanent-secretary level

- A representative from the Council of University Presidents of Thailand

- National Economic and Social Development Board secretary-general

- Chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce and Board of Trade of Thailand, or a representative

- Chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries, or a representative

- Representative from the Thai Bankers' Association

- Two experts selected by the above members

The committee will establish selection criteria for the General Assembly.

- General Assembly, comprising 2,000 members from various professions

The General Assembly will vote to select the members of the Reform Assembly.

- Reform Assembly, comprising 499 members

The Reform Assembly will report results of reform guidelines to the prime minister and the public.

No time frame has been set for the work of the Reform Assembly.


-- The Nation 2013-12-26

[sscsamui]

More BS. More story's More Lies More BS. I not think i can believe anything she says…. Same old BS….

[Nibbles48]

What a complete load of utter crap once again emanating from the same shitty source as most of the other crap.

This assembly will be made up of 70% (at least) pro gov Thaksinistas. That will be arranged with money, trust me on that.

They will steamroller all the reforms they want into the 'new' system. Possibly including a path back for Thasin cunningly hidden between the folds.

They will ignore totally any opposition to these new policies.

And the best bit.

'The Reform Assembly will report results of reform guidelines to the prime minister and the public.'

The key word here being 'guidelines'.... why not report the actual 'reforms'?

[MaxLee]

Mmmmkay thanks Yingluck!

We've been through your 'reconciliation' council also. It's main purpose was to bring big brother back and it ended up dividing the nation even more.

Your reform council's main purpose would be to bring big brother back. And it'll probably end up making politics even dirtier.

Quoting the Sopranos, you're King Midas in reverse. Everything you touch turns to sh#t.

And when everything is finished successfully, a trip to Hawaii is next

[Bluespunk]

"The Democrat-backed protesters are demanding loosely-defined reforms -- such as an end to alleged "vote buying" as well as anti-graft measures -- before new elections are held in around a year to 18 months."

While the dems support the protests, they are not Democrat backed in the sense they were not responsible for the organisation or funding of the initial demonstrations. They certainly are not behind suthep's use of them for his authoritarian schemes.

"The political conflict broadly pits a Bangkok-based middle class and elite against rural and poor voters loyal to Yingluck's brother Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted as prime minister in a coup in 2006 and lives in self-exile."

Apart from the simplistic, PT govt propaganda, inaccurate opening line, this is another example of APP ignoring the fact thaksin is not living in self-exile. He is a fugitive criminal avoiding gaol time.

I personally think conspiracy theories are generally so full of BS they could fertilise Thailand's rice crop for a decade, but why does APP have such a strong govt line over thaksin? i thought they were genuinely neutral. They certainly have a soft spot for the Dear Leader.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Bluespunk

[gerry1011]

Unfortunately for Yingluck, what Suthep and the Dems want is power, rather than "reforms".

Any plan of the government will be rejected by Suthep and the Dems (and their blind followers).

What the government is doing now is to speak with everyone else, in order to weaken the Dems.

No need to speak with Suthep. Nothing can be achieved with this guy.

If enough parties join the government in its own plan, the protesters will have little left to bark at, apart from their hate speech.

The other parties don't let themselves be blinded. They know that the majority of people are supporting the government.

So, for everyone apart from Suthep and the Dems, it is better to find some common ground with a government trying to follow a democratic process, rather than to side with criminals who want to destroy democracy.

[PaullyW]

She looks decidedly worse than she has in the past. Not the beauty she was just several months ago. Must be hard on her.

[Spare]

Who is she going to fool?

No representatives from Suthep so call "People's Council"?

[scorecard]

Unfortunately for Yingluck, what Suthep and the Dems want is power, rather than "reforms".

Any plan of the government will be rejected by Suthep and the Dems (and their blind followers).

What the government is doing now is to speak with everyone else, in order to weaken the Dems.

No need to speak with Suthep. Nothing can be achieved with this guy.

If enough parties join the government in its own plan, the protesters will have little left to bark at, apart from their hate speech.

The other parties don't let themselves be blinded. They know that the majority of people are supporting the government.

So, for everyone apart from Suthep and the Dems, it is better to find some common ground with a government trying to follow a democratic process, rather than to side with criminals who want to destroy democracy.

"rather than to side with criminals who want to destroy democracy."

This line could well describe the current government!

Edited December 26, 2013 by scorecard

[scorecard]

This proposal is obviously a knee-jerk reaction from Pheua Thai to the massive crowds clamouring for reform led by Kamnan Suthep.

We already have 3 findings from the Anand, Prawait and Khanit's committees work.

I suggest all major poitical parties are forced to read these reports and are then televised debating the pros and cons of each proposal.

Then each party tells the public what parts they would include in their manifesto.

Than we have an election.

Not a bad suggestion.

I would add that the debaters have to take and answer questions from an on the spot audience (no need to register in advance) and questions called in by telephone, by e-mail etc. Plus the questioner has the right to ask one following question if the answer is vague or avoids the question / issue.

Plus it should not be one debate event, the debate, with different debaters, should be held in perhaps 5 or 6 different locations, all within say 2 weeks.

Plus the debaters at each event should be a mix of local and non locals from each of the parties.

[Yunla]

What we currently have is hijacking of an unfit-for-purpose parliamentary democracy by Yingluck's extremely wrongheaded policy proposals. This is a cog-and-wheel issue of internal Parliamentary machinery, which could be rectified to account for the inherent problems re; corruption etc. here. But it is still within the loose-fit realms of what I would call a progressive political model. What Suthep proposes is a return to autocracy, pure and simple. You can't just overthrow democratically-elected governments and call yourself anything but an autocrat. So for those of us who cherish democracy - even flawed versions thereof - this represents a giant leap backwards. And that doesn't even factor in the societal bitterness and bloodshed that his actions may lead to. I actually supported the peaceful massprotest against the amnesty bill, and I believe Suthep & co. should have taken action in Parliament when Yingluck offered discussions on the key issues that were causing the massprotests. That was the fork in the road where he took a wrong turn, and the destination doesn't look too good from here.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Yunla

[slapout]

With the track record of the caretaker PM, staring us in the face, why and who would even want to consider her proposal on "reform in Thailand"

The promises and populist programs she has made/implemented have been dismal failures, The 'Cabinet' she has picked has been reshuffled enough to be cvonsidered 3rd or 4th string cannon fodder. There has been virtually no attempt made to follow guidelines of governorance. Add to this the "State/National secret" of the failed populist programs, runaway corruption, etc and she, the PM is asking the Thai people to trust her again?

When recruited, everyone knew you would never make a pitcher position, your batting average is zero, you cannot field a flyball and your too slow to be a pinch runner, maybe you should look for another line of work.

[tomacht8]

Dear Yingluck you are ok with this 3 measures?

1. Normalized budget distribution

- The state budget ( or clearly defined parts) must be divided by provinces, taking into account how many people living in each tschang wat. So the minority do not go out empty-handed.

It can not be that 51% get all and 49% get nothing.

The implementation would be relatively easy. So all members of parliament could contribute/plan to a common budget. This plan would then be published in detail so that everyone can see across the country where the funds are going and who state money is used.

Transparency down to every tschang wat, village and mu ban.

Must be good in every village, that everyone knows or can read about, how much money the pu jai gets in hand each year. Thus, each voter would have the ability to take a control function.

2. Transparency + public budget control

Like for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that

- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.

- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible

- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.

- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.

- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.

- a strong supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,

to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.

The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.

The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.

3. Law

- abolition of any immunity

- lifetime banishment of condemning politicians and civil servants

- change of the bail system, that is, if in the first instance convicted goes to appeal, he must resign from all his offices for this time.

- Faster Judicial clarification, that is, Court date with judgment within 60 days

These changes are then from a reference date for all.

The remaining 25,000 cases of corruption are processed in parallel.

If convicted, then he / she is out (suspended or life ban).

[sawadee1947]

Mmmmkay thanks Yingluck!

We've been through your 'reconciliation' council also. It's main purpose was to bring big brother back and it ended up dividing the nation even more.

Your reform council's main purpose would be to bring big brother back. And it'll probably end up making politics even dirtier.

Quoting the Sopranos, you're King Midas in reverse. Everything you touch turns to sh#t.

You are an expert definetely. Can I hire you to foresee my future? Or better give me the Lucky Numbers for next lottery!

Honestly you should not judge about anybody if you have NO KNOWLEDGE! Si tacuisses !!!

[TVGerry]

Mmmmkay thanks Yingluck!

We've been through your 'reconciliation' council also. It's main purpose was to bring big brother back and it ended up dividing the nation even more.

Your reform council's main purpose would be to bring big brother back. And it'll probably end up making politics even dirtier.

Quoting the Sopranos, you're King Midas in reverse. Everything you touch turns to sh#t.

You are an expert definetely. Can I hire you to foresee my future? Or better give me the Lucky Numbers for next lottery!

Honestly you should not judge about anybody if you have NO KNOWLEDGE! Si tacuisses !!!

You don't need to be a fortune teller to see the future. You just need to look at Poo and her government's record in the past. Not to mention the fact that dear brother still wants to come home.

But hey, you seem knowledgeable! Why don't you reassure us that it'll all get better when if Poo actually impliements her 'reform council'?