Jingthing Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) As I said: All the variations are real English. Now, the WORLD "owns" English and it just so happens, however it did happen, that American usage of English has become more dominant than the English. Deal with it! America doesn't have it's own language, it just borrowed ours. The clue is in the name of the language "ENGLISH" All you can do is call it "American English" but still "English" because that's what it is "English", originally and still spoken by the "English" who come from "England". Get the picture. Deal with it! I have dealt with it. I speak English. So do you. The royalties checks are NOT coming in the mail. Edited January 6, 2014 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren84310 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Zee or Zed.... not too important really. However........ "I really don't want to confront the teacher but it just drives me nuts that people in such a position of influence doesn't realize how serious their power is." At least your daughter's British teacher would have got that right, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkyCowboy Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 As I said: All the variations are real English. Now, the WORLD "owns" English and it just so happens, however it did happen, that American usage of English has become more dominant than the English. Deal with it! America doesn't have it's own language, it just borrowed ours. The clue is in the name of the language "ENGLISH" All you can do is call it "American English" but still "English" because that's what it is "English", originally and still spoken by the "English" who come from "England". Get the picture. Deal with it! Let me discuss this with the Muslim population in GB, London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 As I said: All the variations are real English. Now, the WORLD "owns" English and it just so happens, however it did happen, that American usage of English has become more dominant than the English. Deal with it! America doesn't have it's own language, it just borrowed ours. The clue is in the name of the language "ENGLISH" All you can do is call it "American English" but still "English" because that's what it is "English", originally and still spoken by the "English" who come from "England". Get the picture. Deal with it! I have dealt with it. I speak English. So do you. Correct, by jove you've got it old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 If you let your kids speak American English they will never sound POSH. True but they might sound like Chris Christofferson , " hey mister, your mouths running up a bill that your a**e cain't pay for" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Correct, by jove you've got it old boy. Old boy sounds so much better than Old Fart, Buddy, Mate, whatever ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 As I said: All the variations are real English. Now, the WORLD "owns" English and it just so happens, however it did happen, that American usage of English has become more dominant than the English. Deal with it! America doesn't have it's own language, it just borrowed ours. The clue is in the name of the language "ENGLISH" All you can do is call it "American English" but still "English" because that's what it is "English", originally and still spoken by the "English" who come from "England". Get the picture. Deal with it! Let me discuss this with the Muslim population in GB, London What's religion got to do with this? Go back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 There is more of a standard than you think for international American English when used in commercial documents for general global release. What you refer to is not a standard, rather its common usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) "chap my ass", English teacher, uh? Edited January 6, 2014 by chiang mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 For my 2 cents worth I would like to ask, what language is it that we teach? Where did the idea of American English come from? Are the Americans saying that they have a superior language and that the rest of the world speaks gutter language? As to the spelling I believe all of this stems back to that incredible fellow Mr. John Longman and his introduction of what he considered should be the spelling of the English language. On the bright side though Coke and Microsoft are rewriting the language as we speak so it really is not going to matter much longer and, mark my words, in 10 years the Lingua Franca will be Mandarin anyway. Wow! All the variations are real English. American English is likely more dominant internationally because of: -- general globalization -- the emergence of English as the dominant international language for commerce, technology, and internet -- commercial and cultural domination of the American "empire" in comparison to England which no longer has an empire (yes Hollywood movies have been a big factor in this) -- the USA having a MUCH LARGER population than England American English is likely more dominant internationally More dominant, really? Sure there is influence from T.V, advertising and the internet but many countries still use British English when teaching English as a second or foreign language, even in Canada, they are still mainly taught B.E (albeit with an American accent!) I have taught in a fair few countries in and around Asia and have been surprised at just how popular B.E remains to be. Canada is a commonwealth nation. I used to work on documents for the general global market. British usage (from British sources) always needed to be changed to more STANDARDIZED American-international usage. This isn't really controversial. This happened. The most standard international English is much closer to American usage than British usage. Obviously hard core folksy Americanisms and American slang are not part of STANDARD international English either! If we are honest here, you say you used to 'standardize' documents and I know you said for 'global markets' but I'm thinking that this was for predominantly American usage right? It seems to me that every time the subject of B.E versus A.E comes up, many posters here feel this is a time to 'sell' their version of it even though they are both correct! My father is American but I was raised in London so I can see both sides of the coin (a little biased towards the UK obviously) but it does seem like B.E is established regardless of what others say. B.E is still and will always be the benchmark in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Correct, by jove you've got it old boy. Old boy sounds so much better than Old Fart, Buddy, Mate, whatever ... You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 My American daughter went thru hell at Dulwich ( now BIS ) with the pronunciation of the word WATER color and colour Curb and kerb When my daughter came home one day from the Montessori school ( Philippine teacher than) she told me she learned about PennISULA and i asked her what, she said u know like Florida Peninsula next day had a talk with the teacher an a week later pulled her out of there. Nothing worse than an english teacher teaching english wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 It's fairly obvious that people are no longer contributing in a positive fashion. //Closed// 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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