Thai government fears coup plan in the works

[fab4]

More stuff and nonsense from the government who are terrified that if they cannot get elected they will be exposed for what they are.

Surely if they are not re elected they will, in your words and not my belief, "have been exposed for what they are", and, if they were afraid that was the case they wouldn't have dissolved parliament and put themselves up for re-election or not, would they?

You ought to turn your attention to those who have abandoned the democratic election process by either boycotting or obstructing (or both) said election.

Logic not your strongest attribute?

[toybits]

A coup would surely bring about democracy in the Kingdom of Thailand. For Sure - Dude!!!

[MK1]

And maybe it’s the fear of a Coup that’s also affecting Panda- Lin Hui's pregnancy at Chiang Mai Zoo..Hmm?

Just like they keep guessing; so do we. Excessive Panda hormone levels are to blame.

Edited January 7, 2014 by MK1

[blabth]

All the posters from western democracies when they get to Thailand chuck it out the window in support of coups, forgetting about their own roots. They are the worst kind of hypocrits!

My country has never had a government as corrupt and incompetent as this one. If it did, I'd want a coup there too.

Not sure where you come from but many countries had their share in corruption but for sure for incompetence. Where you see the corruption (more than before) incompetence I agree!

Why you think a military coup is the best solution and not a election? Do you really think a military coup will change the system it will only put it on hold and than it will be back to square one may be with different actors. Sustainable changes can be only done with democratic tools as you can see from the past in Thailand where each coup brought also changes in the constitution.

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[Nickymaster]

Wow Now there is democracy for you. If the minority can't win an election then stage a coup and take control against the majority.

If you really know what democracy is all about you wouldn't make a comment like that.

[JRSoul]

Not at the top of the list overall but certainly the last 50-60 years Thailand sits proudly up there with such illustrious countries as:

Haiti

Syria

Sierra Leone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_d'état_and_coup_attempts_by_country

Says it all really they should be ashamed.

They have some interesting neighbours on the corruption perception list too. Could it be the two are linked in some way?

[h90]

Wow Now there is democracy for you. If the minority can't win an election then stage a coup and take control against the majority.

When was the election the army lost? I am not sure but I think army dictator wasn't on the sheet.

[MaxLee]

Thai government fears coup plan in the works

Just a distraction from the real intentions...On the contrary, It can only work IN FAVOR for Thaksin, because,... IF the yellows oust again, then the entire red shirt brigade of Thailand will make Suthep's Bangkok shutdown look like a fancy-nancy Bangkok-ONLY-Bangkok-VIP party,...

... in THIS case,... Bangkok and its few million Anti-government protesters along with many innocent people will be annihilated like trillion kachillian tsunamis, with a vengeance in the near future....

DemoThaksin-ocracy

[jackr]

Hey, anything to get this lot out so the country's most pressing problem can be addressed; the price of booze!!!

[kingalfred]

More stuff and nonsense from the government who are terrified that if they cannot get elected they will be exposed for what they are.

any removal from office of this dire government will reveal the mass financial incompetence and corruption .they are shit scared

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[JRSoul]

All the posters from western democracies when they get to Thailand chuck it out the window in support of coups, forgetting about their own roots. They are the worst kind of hypocrits!

My country has never had a government as corrupt and incompetent as this one. If it did, I'd want a coup there too.

Not sure where you come from but many countries had their share in corruption but for sure for incompetence. Where you see the corruption (more than before) incompetence I agree!

Why you think a military coup is the best solution and not a election? Do you really think a military coup will change the system it will only put it on hold and than it will be back to square one may be with different actors. Sustainable changes can be only done with democratic tools as you can see from the past in Thailand where each coup brought also changes in the constitution.

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The changes in the constitution after a coup can't be an advance; why not? Do you think a corrupt government will install anti-corruption measures to their own detriment, stop paying police to turn a blind eye to their crimes, and giving amnesties to those convicted? Do you believe a known perjurer will do that, when it is only corruption that retains that charge?

[kingalfred]

Thai government fears coup plan in the works

Just a distraction from the real intentions...On the contrary, It can only work IN FAVOR for Thaksin, because,... IF the yellows oust again, then the entire red shirt brigade of Thailand will make Suthep's Bangkok shutdown look like a fancy-nancy Bangkok-ONLY-Bangkok-VIP party,...

... in THIS case,... Bangkok and its few million Anti-government protesters along with many innocent people will be annihilated like trillion kachillian tsunamis, with a vengeance in the near future....

DemoThaksin-ocracy

if the red thugs want to attempt that they WILL face the full force of the army,

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[smoochy]

I vote yes.

[kirk0233]

The chaos Suthep is stirring up was planned some time ago. Suthep is in Prem's pocket. Prem works the military that waits for the chaos that will provoke a coup to ensure the government is fully controlled by the royalists. It was never about a people's council. This proposition is nonsense that Suthep's handlers dreamt up for its outrageously undemocratic elements. The demands by Suthep were constructed so it would be inconceivable for the PM of a constitutional democracy, Yingluck, to agree to their fascist nature; therefore the chaos could continue indefinitely until the mobs actions were sufficiently destructive to allow an opening for the military to stage a coup. The coup is what the endgame is all about. The military will initiate it when the disorder is such that internationally the coup will be viewed as stabilizing for the country, despite its nondemocratic character. The Bangkok police cannot do much to control the protestors or the military will stage the requested coup; thus the relative placid response to Sutheps mob. This struggle is not between rich and poor or bangkok vs. rural, but elected government vs. royalists control of government. The court ruling regarding the unconstitutional nature of the proposed elected senate is further indication of royalist fear of the people. The 1997 constitution had a fully elected senate, but reverted to a senate with appointed members after a coup. It should be clear to everyone that those who are currently in control, but in the shadows, fear the will of the people and want to suppress it at every opportunity, for their wealth and influence depend on it. They are as corrupt as any Thai parliament, but laws and lack of transparency do not allow a discussion of their corruption.

Edited January 7, 2014 by kirk0233

[Mosha]

More stuff and nonsense from the government who are terrified that if they cannot get elected they will be exposed for what they are.

any removal from office of this dire government will reveal the mass financial incompetence and corruption .they are shit scared

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I answered a post last year that asked "What are they scared of? "

I said "Someone checking the books"

[Spalpeen]

Burma is slowly moving from military rule towards democracy. Meanwhile, reactionary elements in Thai society are planning to move from democracy to military rule. Swapping places with Burma....f***ing smart, that!

[billd766]

More stuff and nonsense from the government who are terrified that if they cannot get elected they will be exposed for what they are.

any removal from office of this dire government will reveal the mass financial incompetence and corruption .they are shit scared

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I answered a post last year that asked "What are they scared of? "

I said "Someone checking the books"

Absolutely though I would have said an honest trustworthy accountant not beholden to either side.

[h90]

Funny how the PDRC, who sees themselves as ultra-royalists, goes against the decree by the king that elections are to be held on February 2:nd.

Defamation if there ever was?

It is not that the king decided that an election would be the best thing.

Yingluck decided on it, and he signed it as the constitution demands from him. So claiming that he issued a decree for elections is wrong.

[h90]

Not at the top of the list overall but certainly the last 50-60 years Thailand sits proudly up there with such illustrious countries as:

Haiti

Syria

Sierra Leone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_d'état_and_coup_attempts_by_country

Says it all really they should be ashamed.

yes much worse than stable democracies like North Korea....They are still on the way to vote Kim out of the office, or maybe they are satisfied and therefor elected him.

[Artisi]

More stuff and nonsense from the government who are terrified that if they cannot get elected they will be exposed for what they are.

any removal from office of this dire government will reveal the mass financial incompetence and corruption .they are shit scared

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I answered a post last year that asked "What are they scared of? "

I said "Someone checking the books"

Absolutely though I would have said an honest trustworthy accountant not beholden to either side.

Honest trustworthy accountant - surely a conflict of terms.

[TVGerry]

If the government is too weak and ineffectual to deal with the protestors then for sure a coup is the only way to fix that problem. Pro-Shinawatras can blame Suthep all they want but it was Poo's useless and corrupt government that allowed the situation to become so bad in the first place.

Now they can't disperse the crowds because the Shinawatra police are just as useless as their masters and they refuse to resign because they want to cling onto power. The army won't help them either. Right now, the only way this problem is going to be solved is with a coup with a military junta in charge for a couple of years while they try to force the Dems and the PTP to work together without Shinwatra interference.

So this is what happens to people's political views when they live in Thailand for too long.....first time I have ever actually witnessed someone in support of a military junta.

Been through a Thai military junta. Things were actually better then things are now.

[Thailand]

Thai government fears coup plan in the works

Just a distraction from the real intentions...On the contrary, It can only work IN FAVOR for Thaksin, because,... IF the yellows oust again, then the entire red shirt brigade of Thailand will make Suthep's Bangkok shutdown look like a fancy-nancy Bangkok-ONLY-Bangkok-VIP party,...

... in THIS case,... Bangkok and its few million Anti-government protesters along with many innocent people will be annihilated like trillion kachillian tsunamis, with a vengeance in the near future....

DemoThaksin-ocracy

Another post already vying for gem of the year and its only January.

[Local Drunk]

It's over for Thaksin... The best thing he could do is spare his family the shame of this and rethink who and what he is. He's no better than anyone and I do mean anyone.

[TVGerry]

All the posters from western democracies when they get to Thailand chuck it out the window in support of coups, forgetting about their own roots. They are the worst kind of hypocrits!

My country has never had a government as corrupt and incompetent as this one. If it did, I'd want a coup there too.

Not sure where you come from but many countries had their share in corruption but for sure for incompetence. Where you see the corruption (more than before) incompetence I agree!

Why you think a military coup is the best solution and not a election? Do you really think a military coup will change the system it will only put it on hold and than it will be back to square one may be with different actors. Sustainable changes can be only done with democratic tools as you can see from the past in Thailand where each coup brought also changes in the constitution.

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'Many' countries eh? Sure list them out and explain why they as bad or worse as compared to this one.

This country has gone through elections, protests, mobs and then coups and then rinse and repeat. You really think another election is going to solve things? PTP wins the February elections. Hurrah for democracy! Then what? More protests, more mobs. And even if things were peaceful now, there would just be more unrest a couple of years down the road. A change is needed. If another coup happens, we won't know if things will get better or not, we weren't know if things will change or not but then, with things as bad as they are now, it's worth trying don't you think?

[bander]

If the government is too weak and ineffectual to deal with the protestors then for sure a coup is the only way to fix that problem. Pro-Shinawatras can blame Suthep all they want but it was Poo's useless and corrupt government that allowed the situation to become so bad in the first place.

Now they can't disperse the crowds because the Shinawatra police are just as useless as their masters and they refuse to resign because they want to cling onto power. The army won't help them either. Right now, the only way this problem is going to be solved is with a coup with a military junta in charge for a couple of years while they try to force the Dems and the PTP to work together without Shinwatra interference.

Agree, if they hadn't brought up the amnesty bill to get Thaksin back, non of this would probably never happen.

Now I don't see any other solution than a coup to stop chaos and anarchy in Bangkok and hopefully get rid of the Shinawatra mafia in thai politics once and for all

[bkkstooge]

It's over for Thaksin... The best thing he could do is spare his family the shame of this and rethink who and what he is. He's no better than anyone and I do mean anyone.

Full agreement Local Drunk but I'm just wondering Did Thaksin or his family/cronies have any shame in the first place???

[Prbkk]

If the government is too weak and ineffectual to deal with the protestors then for sure a coup is the only way to fix that problem. Pro-Shinawatras can blame Suthep all they want but it was Poo's useless and corrupt government that allowed the situation to become so bad in the first place.

Now they can't disperse the crowds because the Shinawatra police are just as useless as their masters and they refuse to resign because they want to cling onto power. The army won't help them either. Right now, the only way this problem is going to be solved is with a coup with a military junta in charge for a couple of years while they try to force the Dems and the PTP to work together without Shinwatra interference.

Agree, if they hadn't brought up the amnesty bill to get Thaksin back, non of this would probably never happen.

Now I don't see any other solution than a coup to stop chaos and anarchy in Bangkok and hopefully get rid of the Shinawatra mafia in thai politics once and for all

No, the amnesty proposal was widely discussed BEFORE the last election( and with many of the 'key players' since). Looking at it from this chaos, amnesty ( for all) looks pretty good to me.

[Guest]

We could call this as Schrödinger's coup.

[virtualtraveller]

The more Peua Thai bleat about a possible coup the more guilty they appear. A coup would play into their hands. They're dying for a coup to get them out of this mess. Coups happen to very corrupt govts, must have done something wrong to be so afraid a coup is necessary…go on, tell us what you've done wrong!

[blabth]

All the posters from western democracies when they get to Thailand chuck it out the window in support of coups, forgetting about their own roots. They are the worst kind of hypocrits!

My country has never had a government as corrupt and incompetent as this one. If it did, I'd want a coup there too.

Not sure where you come from but many countries had their share in corruption but for sure for incompetence. Where you see the corruption (more than before) incompetence I agree!

Why you think a military coup is the best solution and not a election? Do you really think a military coup will change the system it will only put it on hold and than it will be back to square one may be with different actors. Sustainable changes can be only done with democratic tools as you can see from the past in Thailand where each coup brought also changes in the constitution.

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'Many' countries eh? Sure list them out and explain why they as bad or worse as compared to this one.

This country has gone through elections, protests, mobs and then coups and then rinse and repeat. You really think another election is going to solve things? PTP wins the February elections. Hurrah for democracy! Then what? More protests, more mobs. And even if things were peaceful now, there would just be more unrest a couple of years down the road. A change is needed. If another coup happens, we won't know if things will get better or not, we weren't know if things will change or not but then, with things as bad as they are now, it's worth trying don't you think?

Thailand tried Military coups many times. The last one ended up with a Constitution which did never came out of the draft stage. Why you think that a coup would be better than before. It will end of that the military ruling will serve more interest of the present opposition. But it will not solve the problem which is there the split of the Thai society. As long as the Democrats are not addressing the problems of the "rural" people in their program the will leave this field to people like Thaksin. Even eliminating the Shin clan from ruling will not solve the problem as somebody else will come. Thailand has to understand that also the people in the North are Thai people with their right for education healthcare etc. Even the famous rice price scandal is nothing which is unknown to other countries is called subsidizing very common in the European Union.

The present government is not worse than the previous ones. The problem is more that the opposition does not accept their role as opposition. Each working democracy has a working opposition which monitors the performance of the government. If every time an opposition is not happy with the performance of the government is asking for a military coup than only Generals would rule the world.

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