Abhisit says bomb attack at his home was well organized

[mojorison]

No doubt he organised it himself to get some attention how convenient he was away with his family.

What a thoroughly disgusting accusation. Do you know anything about Khun Abhisit, or about the body politic in Thailand?

Consider the disturbing history of attempted and successful assassinations of Thaksin Shinawatra's long list of enemies and also the threats made by him and his supporters. If you study the recent history of how Thaksin and his regime operate you'll see that the random attacks on the protestors, attacks on Democratic Party leaders and offices are a continuation of the way Thaksin and his associates behave. They think that this is the democratic way forward. And still we have posters here who think that it is not democratic to hold peaceful protests. Or that it is democratic to accuse Abhisit of bombing his own house. What nitwits we see on TV!

I'm all goose-bumpy with the level of adoration in which you hold Khun Abhisit! In fact I am starting to tear up now....

[ianf]

No one home at midnight, no real damage done, all the cameras disappear... it sounds organized, alright; but perhaps not by the pro-government people. Perhaps it was an attempt to incite and promote a coup by appearing to be victimized? Somebody knows...

Oh dear! See my post above.

[dmrichkt]

Someone chucks a firework at Abhisit's house when he's not there and Abhisit says it was 'well-organised'. I would hate to go to a piss up in brewery organised by him.

[dmrichkt]

No doubt he organised it himself to get some attention how convenient he was away with his family.

What a thoroughly disgusting accusation. Do you know anything about Khun Abhisit, or about the body politic in Thailand?

Consider the disturbing history of attempted and successful assassinations of Thaksin Shinawatra's long list of enemies and also the threats made by him and his supporters. If you study the recent history of how Thaksin and his regime operate you'll see that the random attacks on the protestors, attacks on Democratic Party leaders and offices are a continuation of the way Thaksin and his associates behave. They think that this is the democratic way forward. And still we have posters here who think that it is not democratic to hold peaceful protests. Or that it is democratic to accuse Abhisit of bombing his own house. What nitwits we see on TV!

More danger of him being cleaved by your tongue than blown up by the Shin clan. So assassinating people who stand in your way was introduced to Thailand by TS? I think it may be you who needs to check his history.

[khunken]

Someone chucks a firework at Abhisit's house when he's not there and Abhisit says it was 'well-organised'. I would hate to go to a piss up in brewery organised by him.

It wasn't a firework - see post 52 (& others above).

The number of ignorant posters who 'know' that all the attacks on protest leaders' homes are self-inflicted is just amazing. Nothing to do with their bias of course.

Apart from the home attacks which are classic Thai warnings, the shootings at the protestors are supposed to be ok because no one was killed or 'delibersate' bad shooting. Well anyone who followed the shooting of Sondi Limthongkul (more than 30 shots as far as I can remember) will understand that spraying bullets at people, cafes, cars, or whatever doesn't necessarily mean death. It can but it's a 'lucky' shot.

Conspiracy theories rule the red repertoire.

[penwithcris]

Its hard to accept the truth..even when it stares you in the face. For years you have fought it. Set yourself free from the lies you peddle. Not winning an argument for 3 years...I admire your tenacity but not your beliefs

Truth certainly hurts. It's simply astonishing that some of you on this forum always try to blame any bomb attack on Democrats or any anyone else who opposes the current government as a propaganda stunt without actually providing any shred of evidence for your ridiculous conclusions. If you paid more attention you would surely realize that the number of protesters dropped since 'someone' started committing acts of violence, Drive by shootings, occasional firebomb or hand grenade in the back yard, threats, etc...mainly against people who support anti-government protest in one way or another. It is obvious that people got intimidated and scared by those acts of violence so they stayed at home. So I would really like to hear from red supporters why on earth would Democrats or yellows as you call all people who oppose this joke of a government bomb themselves or shoot at themselves when it is crystal clear that violence is not benefiting them. The more violence, the less people on the streets. Enlighten us, please.

[Lite Beer]

Four suspects in Abhisit home bomb attack in police custody
By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Jan 16 -- Four persons allegedly involved in Tuesday's late night bomb attack on Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva's Sukhumvit residence are now in police custody, pending further investigation.

The Criminal Court approved Bang Na police's request for the first detention of the four suspects allegedly involved in the bomb attack on late Tuesday night as the investigation is in progress.

The suspects were identified as Anusorn Phinitkhun, 45, Suna Thinkaew, 53, Khamprai Sangsawaeng, 45 and Ms Chanapha Denmat, 35.

The four were allegedly in a pickup truck and hurled a bomb into Mr Abhisit's residence in Soi Sukhumvit 31 at around 11.30pm.

The explosion damaged the roof and shattered windows but no one was injured.

Bang Na police manning a checkpoint near the Meteorological Department on Sukhumvit Road found the suspects' pickup truck with the four suspects.

After searching the vehicle, police found four M-26 grenades, a 9mm gun and bullets. The four will be charged for possessing firearms and ammunition without licences and carried firearms without permission.

The four suspects denied all charges.

Police said 12 more witnesses would be questioned pending forensic results and the suspects' criminal record examination. The court then approved the police request to detain the suspects for 12 days from today until Jan 27.

The police also objected a bail attempt, saying the case was considered serious offences and the suspects could flee.

Meanwhile, small improvised explosive devices were thrown into the barricade of the protest site near Nang Lerng horse racing course occupied by the Network of Students and People for Reform of Thailand (NSPRT), the alliance group of the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

The two explosions occurred at around 12.45pm and 12.50pm.

Volunteer guards rushed to inspect the area around the protest site and inside the horse racing course premise before detaining a suspect with a fishing gun.

The suspect was identified as Sampan Rueangsi, 41. He claimed that he was a temporary worker for the race course and had nothing to do with the explosions.

Mr Sampan would be handed over to police for further investigation. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-01-16

[stropke]

fishing gun ?

[MobileContent]

BANGKOK, Jan 16 -- Four persons allegedly involved in Tuesday's late night bomb attack on Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva's Sukhumvit residence are now in police custody, pending further investigation.

First thing I would like to know is from which province they come?

First we got those navy seals and now this group. I hope the BIB releases some photos and further details as Abhisit pointed out this is political motivated.

[Smokemachine]

AV or his family is not at home is common especially in the current war game.

You think YL and her gang will stay at home too? Most likely retreating to a safer place.

[louse1953]

No doubt he organised it himself to get some attention how convenient he was away with his family.

And you know this because....

[umbanda]

I hope the protesters didn't see this movie in youtube to get ideas......if not...... Yinluck will be in trouble... http://youtu.be/CX3-SO2JyQ4

.....Just kidding...

Edited January 16, 2014 by umbanda

[whybother]

No one home at midnight, no real damage done, all the cameras disappear... it sounds organized, alright; but perhaps not by the pro-government people. Perhaps it was an attempt to incite and promote a coup by appearing to be victimized? Somebody knows...

No one at home at all, all night, and it seems for some time. Holes blown in a roof by more than a fire cracker. Some bad reporting about cameras being taken down.

[Mackie]

Its hard to accept the truth..even when it stares you in the face. For years you have fought it. Set yourself free from the lies you peddle. Not winning an argument for 3 years...I admire your tenacity but not your beliefs

Truth certainly hurts. It's simply astonishing that some of you on this forum always try to blame any bomb attack on Democrats or any anyone else who opposes the current government as a propaganda stunt without actually providing any shred of evidence for your ridiculous conclusions. If you paid more attention you would surely realize that the number of protesters dropped since 'someone' started committing acts of violence, Drive by shootings, occasional firebomb or hand grenade in the back yard, threats, etc...mainly against people who support anti-government protest in one way or another. It is obvious that people got intimidated and scared by those acts of violence so they stayed at home. So I would really like to hear from red supporters why on earth would Democrats or yellows as you call all people who oppose this joke of a government bomb themselves or shoot at themselves when it is crystal clear that violence is not benefiting them. The more violence, the less people on the streets. Enlighten us, please.

It seems that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation. You'd better wake up and smell the coffee. Truth can be painful.

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed

By Martha Nelson | January 16, 2014 at 8:53 AM | 0 comment|

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed: Radical red-shirt militant groups have been stockpiling arms in Bangkok and surrounding areas for months to retaliate against a coup or anyone who forces a postponement in the February election, said a Bangkok Post report on Thursday.

The report said the source of this information is independent red-shirt militants and former supporters of the ruling Pheu Thai Party from the lower Northeast region of Thailand.

“This is not to hit the protesters but to retaliate against a coup and anyone who forces the public and government agencies such as the Election Commission [EC] and the judiciary to postpone the election,” a red-shirt source in Ubon Ratchathani was quoted as saying in the Bangkok Post report.

“There are strong anti-coup and anti-court sentiments among the red-shirt mavericks who are familiar and experienced with weapon use,” said the source.

He also said the underground red-shirt wings were beyond the control or command of any single person.

He said Thaksin Shinawatra was against arms stockpiling for fear of being unable to control the militant groups and their actions.

Through sources in the North and Northeast, the red-shirts have access to heavy arms, he said.

Pichit Likitkijsomboon, economics associate professor at Thammasat University and a red-shirt supporter, admitted there were conflicts within the red-shirt movement and a number of splinter groups, opportunists and elements that cannot be controlled, said the Bangkok Post report.

He noted that the fear of violence should not be considered only from the protesters’ perspective.

People fear if the election is not postponed there will be a civil war, but there will also be anger if there is no election on Feb 2. The underground groups will come out to chart their own course, he said.

If lawlessness and violence prevail, such a fatal and insecure situation would benefit no one, said the professor.

Mr. Pichit was also quoted in the report as saying, “The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) needs to stop pretending to be a white-shirted group calling for the election while the anti-government protesters are dragging the country down to hell”.

He also noted that the morality of the pro-Thaksin movement has been affected since the late November clash around Ramkhamhaeng University between individual red-shirt members and university students.

http://www.freedistrict.com/news/asia/thailand/radical-reds-stockpiling-arms-fight-election-delayed-6697.html

Edited January 16, 2014 by Mackie

[Emptyset]

Except for the people injured and killed by this attacks (one example). Seriously, are you not paying any attention to what is going on or just pretending not to know?

It's appalling to see how some people are ignoring the facts to fit "reality" into their prejudices.

Yes. I thought the same about a much clearer cut issue. There were no "men in black" involved at the Thai-Japanese stadium. The NSPRT are armed and have killed or badly beaten several people already, yet people have invoked phantom snipers in order to defend them. I condemn those responsible for the attack on Abhisit's house, but most of the attacks on the PDRC have been specifically aimed at the NSPRT handcore wing. Quite possibly revenge attacks.

Of course, we don't want to see things degenerate further, so police *should* protect them if they can, despite the fact that their occupation is illegal. But how can they, really? The perimeter is too large to have police fully guarding it.

Somehow it seems you try to obfuscate a wee bit, my dear Empty.

Here we have some 'unknowns' attacking k. Abhisit's house and you start with some NSPRT and possibly revenge attacks and only at NSPRT. Almost as if you try to explain that it's not as bad as is sounds, those attacks that is.

I never deliberately try to 'obfuscate' - if my answers are lengthy it's because there are so many possibilities and contradictions. I merely pointed out that the evidence for protesters killing a cop at Thai-Japanese Stadium is much clearer cut than the evidence for who did this (we've yet to see any), but many posters refused to believe it, never mind condemn it.

But it's a v. good example of how facts are ignored to fit "reality" into people's prejudices. I was also pointing out that given the violence NSPRT have been involved in, it's not unlikely that different groups would seek revenge. Same goes for Abhisit. I didn't blame a third hand, but that is always a possibility as well. Problem I have is people seem to think it's as simple as Thaksin ordering all these events, when in truth there are many different people involved.

[Emptyset]

It seems that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation. You'd better wake up and smell the coffee. Truth can be painful.

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed

By Martha Nelson | January 16, 2014 at 8:53 AM | 0 comment|

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed: Radical red-shirt militant groups have been stockpiling arms in Bangkok and surrounding areas for months to retaliate against a coup or anyone who forces a postponement in the February election, said a Bangkok Post report on Thursday.

The report said the source of this information is independent red-shirt militants and former supporters of the ruling Pheu Thai Party from the lower Northeast region of Thailand.

“This is not to hit the protesters but to retaliate against a coup and anyone who forces the public and government agencies such as the Election Commission [EC] and the judiciary to postpone the election,” a red-shirt source in Ubon Ratchathani was quoted as saying in the Bangkok Post report.

“There are strong anti-coup and anti-court sentiments among the red-shirt mavericks who are familiar and experienced with weapon use,” said the source.

He also said the underground red-shirt wings were beyond the control or command of any single person.

He said Thaksin Shinawatra was against arms stockpiling for fear of being unable to control the militant groups and their actions.

Through sources in the North and Northeast, the red-shirts have access to heavy arms, he said.

Pichit Likitkijsomboon, economics associate professor at Thammasat University and a red-shirt supporter, admitted there were conflicts within the red-shirt movement and a number of splinter groups, opportunists and elements that cannot be controlled, said the Bangkok Post report.

He noted that the fear of violence should not be considered only from the protesters’ perspective.

People fear if the election is not postponed there will be a civil war, but there will also be anger if there is no election on Feb 2. The underground groups will come out to chart their own course, he said.

If lawlessness and violence prevail, such a fatal and insecure situation would benefit no one, said the professor.

Mr. Pichit was also quoted in the report as saying, “The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) needs to stop pretending to be a white-shirted group calling for the election while the anti-government protesters are dragging the country down to hell”.

He also noted that the morality of the pro-Thaksin movement has been affected since the late November clash around Ramkhamhaeng University between individual red-shirt members and university students.

http://www.freedistrict.com/news/asia/thailand/radical-reds-stockpiling-arms-fight-election-delayed-6697.html

I'm glad you posted this because it actually acknowledges how complicated things are. There's no prospect of a coup or a People's Council being installed peacefully like in 2006, but some protest supporters still seem to refuse to acknowledge that.

[Prbkk]

Self delete: a silly post

Edited January 16, 2014 by Prbkk

[Jim walker]

Attack at his home was well organized, and he died instantly very well organised

[Basil B]

They had guns and hand grenades and were well organized, yet attacked his house when it was empty and used fire crackers rather than the grenades and guns, not to mention them being apprehended within hours of the event. The capture of them was announced by one of the leaders of the PDRC seemingly before the police new..............

They found an M 26 hand grenade pin at the scene

M26 Hand grenade = some f***ing big fire cracker,

[Mackie]

It seems that you do not understand the seriousness of the situation. You'd better wake up and smell the coffee. Truth can be painful.

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed

By Martha Nelson | January 16, 2014 at 8:53 AM | 0 comment|

Radical reds stockpiling arms for fight if election delayed: Radical red-shirt militant groups have been stockpiling arms in Bangkok and surrounding areas for months to retaliate against a coup or anyone who forces a postponement in the February election, said a Bangkok Post report on Thursday.

The report said the source of this information is independent red-shirt militants and former supporters of the ruling Pheu Thai Party from the lower Northeast region of Thailand.

“This is not to hit the protesters but to retaliate against a coup and anyone who forces the public and government agencies such as the Election Commission [EC] and the judiciary to postpone the election,” a red-shirt source in Ubon Ratchathani was quoted as saying in the Bangkok Post report.

“There are strong anti-coup and anti-court sentiments among the red-shirt mavericks who are familiar and experienced with weapon use,” said the source.

He also said the underground red-shirt wings were beyond the control or command of any single person.

He said Thaksin Shinawatra was against arms stockpiling for fear of being unable to control the militant groups and their actions.

Through sources in the North and Northeast, the red-shirts have access to heavy arms, he said.

Pichit Likitkijsomboon, economics associate professor at Thammasat University and a red-shirt supporter, admitted there were conflicts within the red-shirt movement and a number of splinter groups, opportunists and elements that cannot be controlled, said the Bangkok Post report.

He noted that the fear of violence should not be considered only from the protesters’ perspective.

People fear if the election is not postponed there will be a civil war, but there will also be anger if there is no election on Feb 2. The underground groups will come out to chart their own course, he said.

If lawlessness and violence prevail, such a fatal and insecure situation would benefit no one, said the professor.

Mr. Pichit was also quoted in the report as saying, “The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) needs to stop pretending to be a white-shirted group calling for the election while the anti-government protesters are dragging the country down to hell”.

He also noted that the morality of the pro-Thaksin movement has been affected since the late November clash around Ramkhamhaeng University between individual red-shirt members and university students.

http://www.freedistrict.com/news/asia/thailand/radical-reds-stockpiling-arms-fight-election-delayed-6697.html

I'm glad you posted this because it actually acknowledges how complicated things are. There's no prospect of a coup or a People's Council being installed peacefully like in 2006, but some protest supporters still seem to refuse to acknowledge that.

Things are definitely complicated and I'm certain both sides are negotiating behind the scenes on a daily basis. However, the full responsibility solely lies with the man who opened the Pandora's box just because of his personal ambitions and greed. No need to name him, no need to post numerous links where he urges red shirts supporters to commit acts of violence.

It's high time some people here grew up and accepted the fact that the red shirt supporters are armed, red shirt supporters have a paramilitary wing, some of their members resort to terrorist actions to achieve their goals... etc...etc...Refer to the above article. It's not me saying that, it's Mr Pichit, economics associate professor at Thamassat University, a red shirt supporter. Enough said.

[whybother]

Attack at his home was well organized, and he died instantly very well organised

So you're saying you'd be happy if he was home and was killed?