CAPO issues tough warning to Suthep

[maxme]

Ask youselves, why, if Thaksin gained power because the rural poor were becoming politically aware, and (rightfully) getting fed up with their lot, did he use those exact same corrupt, feudal powerbrokers to get their votes? Why did/do the people continue to vote for those exact same corrupt feudal powerbrokers?

Why didn't Thaksin bring in a bunch of fresh new people with no history of pillaging the poor and really make a difference? Why were no lasting improvements made to education during his years of absolute power?

Why?

Everybody knows the answer. People in the north and other rural areas are uneducated.

It is as simple as that.

At it will remain so, because both sides are interested in keeping it that way, both have use for cheap (slave) labour, and masses who will not ask WHY are we slaves in our country.

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Correction, you mean of course north-east. Guess what there are a lot of rural people in the south as well. North-east is the poorest part of Thailand yes, but if you wanna apply the term rural in terms of blue or whatever color you wish it should represent then you have to probably paint 80% of the map of Thailand.

The south has THE worst universities if you don´t count the ones in Hat Yai. Many of the southeners aren't qualified for some higher-up positions in Bangkok due to the degree they got from the south.

[whybother]

"This is your last warning. If you don't turn yourself in .... I'm going to screeeeaaam!!"

[presscamera]

"It's the duty of the police to arrest Suthep because he is wanted for insurrection, otherwise police will face malfeasance charges," Deputy Prime Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul said after a meeting with the national police chief.

So if the police don't arrest Suthep they will have to arrest themselves?

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[shiok]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

[ikke]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

haha, you really thought the international opinion was same as your's.... poor Suthep followers...

[tonglen]

Its hard to believe that there is a "Center for the Administration of Peace and Order" in Thailand.

Apparently they dont do much.

Similar to the United Nations achieving "peace and security."

[brownbear]

This thread and topic is old new now but I have to say, the OP pic reminds me of Arnold's comment in Predator when the Predator's mask is first removed. That's where the comparison ends as those movie creatures were frightening, remarkably efficient and totally focused on their task in hand. I think I saw one smile in one movie as well.

[tilac2]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

"Dramatized"? Interesting point of view. But I'd have to counter that the Washington Post along with NYT and WSJ are generally considered the most influential newspapers in the US. The WP is of course best known for exposing the Watergate scandal, but has also won numerous awards. Being in Washington means that it has, perhaps, extra influence on the US government. Let's hope so in this case. It would be great if President Obama and others could come out on record as condemning this insurrectionist Suthep, and offering support to the elected government of Yingluck.

Edited January 16, 2014 by tilac2

[SICHONSTEVE]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

"Dramatized"? Interesting point of view. But I'd have to counter that the Washington Post along with NYT and WSJ are generally considered the most influential newspapers in the US. The WP is of course best known for exposing the Watergate scandal, but has also won numerous awards. Being in Washington means that it has, perhaps, extra influence on the US government. Let's hope so in this case. It would be great if President Obama and others could come out on record as condemning this insurrectionist Suthep, and offering support to the elected government of Yingluck.

I'm sure that Yingluck will be consoled by a reporters best wishes whilst she is being besieged by bad news and facing the ultimate humiliation of being banned from politics for 5 years (she may be relieved by the ban as she didn't want to be here in the first place and has had enough)!!

[Thailand]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

"Dramatized"? Interesting point of view. But I'd have to counter that the Washington Post along with NYT and WSJ are generally considered the most influential newspapers in the US. The WP is of course best known for exposing the Watergate scandal, but has also won numerous awards. Being in Washington means that it has, perhaps, extra influence on the US government. Let's hope so in this case. It would be great if President Obama and others could come out on record as condemning this insurrectionist Suthep, and offering support to the elected government of Yingluck.

My wife is Chinese and has been following the events in a Bangkok via the Chinese media, she has access to around 50 different channels.

She tells me that Yingluck has massive credibility for the way she and the caretaker government have handled Suthep with kid gloves and basically out foxed him at every turn. Suthep on the other hand is considered to me a complete maniac who would have not got to day one of the Bangkok shutdown, from a Chinese perspective. Othe countries seem to have similar views?

[JeffreyWitty]

Did anyone else notice that CAPO is also synonymous with "caporegime"? Its a mafia term for someone who heads a crew for the mob underbosses.

Just sayin.

[TD68]

Nobody seriously expects anyone to be apprehended in this crisis - on either side - whether it be members of the administration or Suthep. Having said that, Suthep's rhetorical overreach has played into the hands of the administration, and that could easily have been avoided. It seems to be the only misstep that has been made, as opposed to the avalanche provided by this administration over the last two and a half years. Thaksin's brother has a lot of nerve to accuse Suthep of committing the arrogant act of mounting a protest campaign, indicating - yet again - that in Thaksin's world, protest is not to be tolerated, free speech is not to be tolerated, the court system and branches of oversight are not to be tolerated, a constitution that limits his grip on power is not to be tolerated, an opposition that refuses to play ball must not be tolerated, and finally the people of Thailand - who are gleefully and joyfully filling the streets of Bangkok - are not to be tolerated. Who has the right to express outrage here ?

[TD68]

Starts well... ends in absolute dribble.

[TD68]

Well said and the general that will execute the coup will end up in the board of directors at CP Group such as it happens last time with General Suchinda. The former PM Chatchai also tried to take away power from the elite and was send to the Golf Course at Don Muang and then left for Europe.

The ironic issue is really that the Bangkok elite doesn't only look down on the North and Norteast but as well on the Southern's.

The irony here is that the poor of Isaan have been held back by the very same rural strongmen that Thaksin bought out in bulk. As the reds are fond of telling us, the Democrats have never been popular in the Northeast. The people of the Northeast generally have lower educational standards than the rest of the country. The people of the Northeast continually vote for the same faces and their proxies, no matter what their allegiance is at the time. In whose interest is it to keep the people at that low standard?

And you may want to look at who was on who's side during the Black May events of 1992. What we are seeing today is actually a struggle between the old military dinosaurs and their corrupt cronies - the Chavalits, Pinmalees, Silpa-Archa's, Chidcops, Thienthongs, et al, against the rising middle class. It is they who have the most to lose. It is particulary revealing that, back in 1992, the word on the streets was that the power of the politically aware middle class meant that the old guard could never seize control again. The old guard did come back politically, thanks to their uneducated rural vote sellers, bringing the country to near financial ruin in 1997. They were then bought out by Thaksin, who profited by their corrupt incompetence, and took the crumb throwing to a whole new level while maintaining the low standard of education and continuing the demonisation of the middle classes. Essentially leaving the old rural feudal system in place. Paying someone a little more to carry on doing the same inefficient process, making money for the same old masters, is not progress, it's stagnation.

Ask youselves, why, if Thaksin gained power because the rural poor were becoming politically aware, and (rightfully) getting fed up with their lot, did he use those exact same corrupt, feudal powerbrokers to get their votes? Why did/do the people continue to vote for those exact same corrupt feudal powerbrokers? Why, to give just one example, do the people of Buri Ram continually vote for whoever Newin tells them to, no matter whose side he's on at the time? Why didn't Thaksin bring in a bunch of fresh new people with no history of pillaging the poor and really make a difference? Why were no lasting improvements made to education during his years of absolute power?

And, if your answer is "Well, yes, he was just as bad as all those before him, but he gave the people a bit of extra money, and the other side are exactly the same anyway", then why doesn't the sytem need reforming?

[TD68]

There is nothing wrong with the system! The problem is enforcement and justice.

[shiok]

Of course, he is always surrounded by guards and protesters. The police should arrest him with the arrest warrant. Anyone resisting, impeding, obstructing law enforcement officers from performing their duties should also be arrested and charged. Of course, they will be crashes but the rule of law must be enforced equally without fear and favour.

rule of law? what about the one on the run??? he's got no balls!!

[icommunity]

Of course, he is always surrounded by guards and protesters. The police should arrest him with the arrest warrant. Anyone resisting, impeding, obstructing law enforcement officers from performing their duties should also be arrested and charged. Of course, they will be crashes but the rule of law must be enforced equally without fear and favour.

rule of law? what about the one on the run??? he's got no balls!!

Are you referring to Thaksin? He is not on the run. He travel freely around the world and countries accepted him as a politically persecuted person. AV administration spend their entire illegitimate term hounding him without success. They even lied to the whole world that it has an international arrest warrant. May be you want to try arrest him when you spotted him in a foreign land and not finding yourself arrested instead.

[love1012]

Hes already had an arrest warrant, why are the BiB handing out water to the protesters instead of arresting this loon?

For the same reason they "failed" to arrest Juthaporn!! But you dont mention that!

[love1012]

Try to kidnap the P.M / Pres of any country and you would probably find yourself dead.

or throw bombs at an ex-prime ministers house!!

[love1012]

Of course, he is always surrounded by guards and protesters. The police should arrest him with the arrest warrant. Anyone resisting, impeding, obstructing law enforcement officers from performing their duties should also be arrested and charged. Of course, they will be crashes but the rule of law must be enforced equally without fear and favour.

rule of law? what about the one on the run??? he's got no balls!!

Are you referring to Thaksin? He is not on the run. He travel freely around the world and countries accepted him as a politically persecuted person. AV administration spend their entire illegitimate term hounding him without success. They even lied to the whole world that it has an international arrest warrant. May be you want to try arrest him when you spotted him in a foreign land and not finding yourself arrested instead.

Did your red girlfriend tell you that in the village in Isan? If Thaksin had balls hed come back to Thailand and do his jail sentence for mudrder, theft, kidnapping, extortion, bribery and all his other crimes. As it is - he gives his lawyers money to bribe the west and Dubai to live there

[love1012]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

"Dramatized"? Interesting point of view. But I'd have to counter that the Washington Post along with NYT and WSJ are generally considered the most influential newspapers in the US. The WP is of course best known for exposing the Watergate scandal, but has also won numerous awards. Being in Washington means that it has, perhaps, extra influence on the US government. Let's hope so in this case. It would be great if President Obama and others could come out on record as condemning this insurrectionist Suthep, and offering support to the elected government of Yingluck.

My wife is Chinese and has been following the events in a Bangkok via the Chinese media, she has access to around 50 different channels.

She tells me that Yingluck has massive credibility for the way she and the caretaker government have handled Suthep with kid gloves and basically out foxed him at every turn. Suthep on the other hand is considered to me a complete maniac who would have not got to day one of the Bangkok shutdown, from a Chinese perspective. Othe countries seem to have similar views?

Yeah - OK well all follow your wife for the news !!

[icommunity]

#love1012 - When was Thaksin convicted of murder, theft, kidnapping, extortion, bribery??? Where did you get these baseless accusations.???

Of course, he is always surrounded by guards and protesters. The police should arrest him with the arrest warrant. Anyone resisting, impeding, obstructing law enforcement officers from performing their duties should also be arrested and charged. Of course, they will be crashes but the rule of law must be enforced equally without fear and favour.

rule of law? what about the one on the run??? he's got no balls!!

Are you referring to Thaksin? He is not on the run. He travel freely around the world and countries accepted him as a politically persecuted person. AV administration spend their entire illegitimate term hounding him without success. They even lied to the whole world that it has an international arrest warrant. May be you want to try arrest him when you spotted him in a foreign land and not finding yourself arrested instead.

Did your red girlfriend tell you that in the village in Isan? If Thaksin had balls hed come back to Thailand and do his jail sentence for mudrder, theft, kidnapping, extortion, bribery and all his other crimes. As it is - he gives his lawyers money to bribe the west and Dubai to live there

[paymaster]

I like to see if Suthep has the balls to try it himself.

Don't talk about balls mate. Suthep is in town leading from the front. The other guy is nowhereman.

[gerry1011]

It's good to see that some of the world's influential media are commenting about the disgraceful insurrectionist Suthep and his rich or gullible or paid supporters. The Washington Post headline says: "Thailands anti-democracy protests should provoke a harsh rebuke from the U.S."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

influential media? you wish.. it's all dramatized!!!

I find it an excellent article.

As close as the truth as it could be.

Well written.

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