Police told to take action against hardcore Red Shirt elements

[sscsamui]

The police are not going to do Anything to stop any violence aimed at the protesters… I would not really like to see a coup but it is the Only way this violence will stop and this corrupted government will be outset… But… there is the fact that Mr. T is still on the outside with pockets full of money and able to pull string here… So sad

Edited January 18, 2014 by sscsamui

[Siripon]

The protests while not 100% peaceful have been relatively peaceful. Occupying streets and making idle threats is one thing. No one dies. However, these idiot red shirts want to escalate the situation by provoking fights and we know both sides have guns. With the cowardly bombings probably going to continue, it's only right that the army and police take action and not let things get worse.

Where is the evidence the reds are responsible for these attacks? seems like the yellow faction may be instigating these to get the army to intervene with a coup :/

There must be a reason that those who are intellectually challenged to such a degree that they cannot see the facts are all aligned to the faction rouge

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Until there is conclusive evidence either way, there is no point is engaging in the usual polemics. It was a fair question to ask - particularly as it would have been an utterly dumb move on the part of anyone on the pro-government side, only standing to benefit Suthep. Remarkable and possibly even predictable that the violence should kick off in earnest just as the demos are dwindling in size.

So I would say it would be 'intellectually dishonest' not to wonder why, just as the anti-government movement appears to be losing momentum, that such incidents should suddenly start to occur - as they can only aid Suthep's cause.

But there are a lot of dumb people on the government side with dumb policies such as the rice mortgage policy, tablets for P1 students and tax waiver on first car, but that is beside the point.

Violence could certainly benefit the government side for a lot of the lunchtime, evening and weekend protesters are middle class and Thai middle class ladies are easily scared. A couple more bombs and their numbers will drop off drastically only to reappear as no votes on election day.

[LevelHead]

The police are not going to do Anything to stop any violence aimed at the protesters… I would not really like to see a coup but it is the Only way this violence will stop and this corrupted government will be outset… But… there is the fact that Mr. T is still on the outside with pockets full of money and able to pull string here… So sad

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

Today, I would say 70% of the Thai population would not accept a coup.

The army has been pretty useless at stopping the insurgency in the south. Imagine a countrywide insurgency, like Iraq, I do not think anyone wants to go there which is why there will not be an army coup this time, its why the so called "independent agencies for a silent coup , I mean for checks and balances" are doing there best to make a coup not necessary.

PTP have avoided all the traps set for them so far.

Next up should be Yingluck and 308 lawmakers all guilty of something, but PTP will replace them with 309 new ones - so even that cannot work.

This is why there are DESPERATE attempts now to get PTP to postpone the election, as that could and would invalidate the constitution if no election is held by end of Feb 6th. Provided PTP hold an election before Feb 2nd there is pretty much no way for them to be kicked out of caretaker government power.

All in my opinion of course.

Edited January 18, 2014 by LevelHead

[JRSoul]

The Army should be looking in their own barracks. Now asking the police.

Wasn't it you that told us nearly all the army were red conscripts?

There you go again. Your memory is slipping in your old age.

Only the short term memory. Remind me again, was that a Yes or a No?

[Skywalker69]

How about taking action against the nutjob who said he would arrest the democratically elected Prime Minister and Cabinet Members?

Do you mean the one whom has with PTP and Thaksin´s help has ruined the country´s economi?

[djjamie]

Quite shocking really, you really would have thought the Army would be less obvious, but perhaps they are being obvious in order to show their hands are tied and they are being told to support the protestors ?

Students as part of the PDRC kill police officers and Army saying nothing and do nothing.

PDRC cut open locks, break down fences and gates and occupy government property and Army say nothing.

Students threaten to shut down air traffic control and Army say nothing.

Police use tear gas to stop protestors attacking government buildings and using picks ups and diggers to break down barriers, Army tells police not to use tear gas.

One leader of a faction of red shirts says they want to also protest in Bangkok, Army tells police to stop them.

Students as part of the PDRC kill police officers (evidence?) and Army saying nothing and do nothing. Police deny deny deny then admit (after overwhelming evidence is presented by guess who, the army!) that the MIB on the roof were actually police officers, but then deny deny deny they shot a protestor and accidentally shot a policeman dead. Deny anyway, unless overwhelming evidence is presented.

PDRC cut open locks, break down fences and gates and occupy government property and Army say nothing. What did the police do? Sounds like a police matter.

Students threaten to shut down air traffic control and Army say nothing. What did the police do? Sounds like a police matter.

Police use tear gas to stop protestors attacking government buildings and using picks ups and diggers to break down barriers, Army tells police not to use tear gas.Agreed. Army should not have got involved.

One leader of a faction of red shirts says they want to also protest in Bangkok, Army tells police to stop them. Would you blame them. The army would be the ones cleaning up the mess as the tomato police will either allow it to happen or mingle with the red shirts.

One more you forgot to mention. Pol Gen Jarumporn denied denied denied a policemen that was chasing a suspected gunman smashed up a car. Guess who presented the evidence? Yep, the army presented a video of it. But thats not the best bit. Get this for an excuse…..Ready? Sitting down I hope……….Your gonna love it…. "It was a misunderstanding"

So really the army are protecting the protestors from the police.

The army need to police the police.

They deserve a medal. The general was threatened with having his twin daughters kidnapped and killed and that same General has not said a word about the lack of independence shown by the police who are protecting the person that said it. Did that guy get charged? Nope. What about the guy that said something negative about Yingluck? Yep, they threw the book at him.

​The police need policing.

Look at the pinnacle of the police force. Having insignia pinned on him by a convicted criminal. This is the number 1, numero uno. He hang the picture in his office. Every person in that building signed an outh to arrest criminals and none, not one said anything about it. Either Thaksin was right or wrong, he was convicted. So all that picture represents is the policeman's contempt for the court system and rule of law.

The police need policing.

I wish the army were involved in the Akeyuth murder case. You know the one? The one Chalerm said the driver did it before the police even did an investigation. Didn't take long to close that case. How about the bombings of Abhisit's house. Not one lead. Not one witness.

The police need policing.

Thank god for the army.

Edited January 18, 2014 by djjamie

[JimsKnight]

This is great it's threads like these that show us whose side the users support and by default whether they support the natural rights or the unnatural ones the reds go on about.

[rixalex]

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

Nope. An unjust assets concealment trial in 2001 was what started all this.

Had that not happened, Thaksin would have been banned from office.

[Prbkk]

Does the army guy have anything to say about the navy seals, fake plates, fake id, huge guns with silencers, caught red-handed? or do we wait for the navy to explain that?

[culicine]

Unbelievable that the army even come out with statements such as this.

So much for their claims that they do not favour either side in this conflict.

They are merely doing Yingkuck's job. Her skype must be down. Police do your job!!!!

[Fryslan boppe]

"Police told to take action against hardcore Red Shirt elements"....This headline implies a multitude, then when reading the article, it references one guy by the name of Ko Tee....These protesters really need to have an attack by Red Shirts. If they can find anything remotely connected, they will magnify it....... "More than 30 people were injured as attackers hurled bombs at protesters..."...This quote implies facts that don't match what is currently circulating on the Internet and Social media. That being video's of the so-called hurled bombs came from within the protesters procession. The video clearly shows that the so-called 'bomb' was not against Suthep's procession, but from within it...It shows a bomb being lobbed from the back of one of the pick-ups in the procession. This fact and video's that seem to be everywhere is an inconvenient reality for these coup-mongers, who need to have confrontation and to be attacked by forces outside themselves...Suthep's quick unsubstantiated finger-pointing at the Govt. is evidence of it as well....they would love to have an all-out assault by Security forces...When that is not happening, they need to create a situation themselves. I think these suspicions are just the tip of the iceberg...The protesters need to create all kinds of perceptions in order to advance their cause, and they are good at it.

Edited January 18, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[patjem]

Quite shocking really, you really would have thought the Army would be less obvious, but perhaps they are being obvious in order to show their hands are tied and they are being told to support the protestors ?

Students as part of the PDRC kill police officers and Army saying nothing and do nothing.

PDRC cut open locks, break down fences and gates and occupy government property and Army say nothing.

Students threaten to shut down air traffic control and Army say nothing.

Police use tear gas to stop protestors attacking government buildings and using picks ups and diggers to break down barriers, Army tells police not to use tear gas.

One leader of a faction of red shirts says they want to also protest in Bangkok, Army tells police to stop them.

Erm, the other faction does not want to protest, he made it clear he only wants to fight.... that's the reason.

[Thailand]

With these comments from the Army, Suthep's continued existence etc,it really just goes to show just how VERY high up in the pecking order the powers behind all this are.

[Tatsujin]

The protests while not 100% peaceful have been relatively peaceful. Occupying streets and making idle threats is one thing. No one dies. However, these idiot red shirts want to escalate the situation by provoking fights and we know both sides have guns. With the cowardly bombings probably going to continue, it's only right that the army and police take action and not let things get worse.

Where is the evidence the reds are responsible for these attacks? seems like the yellow faction may be instigating these to get the army to intervene with a coup :/

So Red Shirt activist Ko Tee saying he's going to attack Charng Wattana, and then lo and behold it is attacked doesn't give you any hints?

I have a feeling that for many pro-Govt supporters on here, you'd dismiss anything and everything even if you saw it with your own eyes.

[poisonus]

" Told to ' is a nice change from ' urged ' but unfortunately the army have no right to tell the police what to do and in this particular case i would think those who can tell the police what to do won't.

No.... But they can say that if you don't... we will start shooting the <deleted> on sight.

The army have been drafted in to help 'and coordinate' the police, so I think they have the right to tell them what needs to be done, because CAPO isn't going to do it.

If the police continue to ignore the army, then they will be replaced by the army who will declare martial law.... you know what that means.... yep, a coup.

Hope it come sooner rather than later.

[patjem]

With these comments from the Army, Suthep's continued existence etc,it really just goes to show just how VERY high up in the pecking order the powers behind all this are.

That's quite correct. The protests are only one front, giving Suthep a chance to vent his anger and feel important, bow out later with some face (maybe). The courts and other behind-scenes activities is what will decide the final outcome. I believe Enough power is behind the push to remove the Shinawatras that isn't so openly seen, and since Yingluck refused to step down.... I have a hunch the courts will move faster this time, and we may see a public humiliation or two in the words that are used later to describe the situation to the rest of the world. It won't be "Suthep's revolution" as the headline, but a public humiliation on a legal front. It just depends how much dirt the NACC really has on the Government.

[metisdead]

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[whybother]

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

<snip>

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

[Basil B]

" Told to ' is a nice change from ' urged ' but unfortunately the army have no right to tell the police what to do and in this particular case i would think those who can tell the police what to do won't.

" the army have no right to tell the police what to do"

Probably given an ultimatum do your job or we will.

Lets put it this way, a beat up maroon and white Toyota pick with red and blue flashing lights is no match for a M41A3 Light battle tank

[spirit47]

" Told to ' is a nice change from ' urged ' but unfortunately the army have no right to tell the police what to do and in this particular case i would think those who can tell the police what to do won't.

No.... But they can say that if you don't... we will start shooting the &lt;deleted&gt; on sight.

The army have been drafted in to help 'and coordinate' the police, so I think they have the right to tell them what needs to be done, because CAPO isn't going to do it.

If the police continue to ignore the army, then they will be replaced by the army who will declare martial law.... you know what that means.... yep, a coup.

Hope it come sooner rather than later.

Agree with you, the police escorted Ko Tea alias Rambo Isaan to the rally side on Chang Wattana for confrontation. Some people here want forcing violence, and this are not the Protestors.....So they should be aware, that the army willing to intervene.

[Mr Yim]

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

<snip>

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

And you believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in court facing charges of murder?

Good or bad, the bottom line was the Government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by the people of Thailand. What is so difficult to understand about that?

[whybother]

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

And you believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in court facing charges of murder?

Good or bad, the bottom line was the Government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by the people of Thailand. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Probably more than I believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in jail, not just for the conviction that has gone through the courts, but the 10 or so other charges that are stopped because he ran away.

Did I saying anything about the government NOT being democratically elected? Did I even mention the government?

[Mr Yim]

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

And you believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in court facing charges of murder?

Good or bad, the bottom line was the Government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by the people of Thailand. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Probably more than I believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in jail, not just for the conviction that has gone through the courts, but the 10 or so other charges that are stopped because he ran away.

Did I saying anything about the government NOT being democratically elected? Did I even mention the government?

I'm sorry. I mistook your post. So you fully support the elections on 2nd February in which the Thai people can decide who they want to govern their country?

Edited January 18, 2014 by Mr Yim

[Tchooptip]

How about taking action against the nutjob who said he would arrest the democratically elected Prime Minister and Cabinet Members?

The democratically elected Prime Minister now buying the votes is democratic

[ginjag]

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

<snip>

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

And you believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in court facing charges of murder?

Good or bad, the bottom line was the Government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by the people of Thailand. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Can try to understand that, that was the bottom line after that WHAT ???? democratically governed. no way so what is difficult to understand about that ???

so now what ??? have an election that does not have any candidates ??? because most of them are facing charges of umpteen things.

Now is a no go --for this government like it or lump it.

[robblok]

An unjust coup in 2006 started all this.

Had that not happened Thaksin would probably be retired in Chiang Mai now after being kicked out in an election a few years later.

<snip>

Right. While Thaksin was in power in attempted to reduce the powers of the checks and balances, and put his relatives in positions of power, but you think he would have allowed himself to be kicked out in elections. But Suthep, even though he has said he wants a reform committee for a year and then have elections which he won't be standing in, and, although corrupt, hasn't changed laws to suit himself or put relatives in positions of power, is aiming to be president for life.

And you believe the words of a corrupt, megalomaniac who should be in court facing charges of murder?

Good or bad, the bottom line was the Government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by the people of Thailand. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Oh god the democratically elected mantra.. .so boring.

It has shown they are corrupt.. voting for multiple people lying in court, sneaking laws through ect ect. The amnesty.. having 25.000 corruption cases dropped. Now.. G2G rice trades are fake.. its enough.. they should step down and be investigated.. prosecuted and jailed if guilty.

Meanwhile the constitution should be changed to make sure this level of corruption can't happen again. Then if they are elected again let them in power but only as long as they play by the rules and don't rape the country blind and lie so much that they lie more then speak the truth.

This just clearly shows the laws are not strong enough and the checks and balances are gone if such blatant corruption and lying is possible. Reforms now.. election later.

[whybother]

I'm sorry. I mistook your post. So you fully support the elections on 2nd February in which the Thai people can decide who they want to govern their country?

I would prefer if Yingluck resigned, and Thaksin kept out of Thai politics.

[icommunity]

Anxiety and fear are among the silent majority of Pathum Thani over the statement of the Army through its deputy-spokesperson. Instead of asking the Police to take legal against the PDRC who violated the rights of the people there, it intimidated the police through its statement to take legal action against people who wanted the return of their rights. Already, the people do not trust the Army, and now this insensitive statement heightened their fear and anxiety. I think the Army should apologize or clarify or take back their statement in order to maintain their claim of neutrality. Any violence, the Army is responsible.

[Robby nz]

Not much chance of the police taking action against their friends the reds is there.

A friendly cuddle is all the red leaders get.

[pitrevie]

How about taking action against the nutjob who said he would arrest the democratically elected Prime Minister and Cabinet Members?

In a normal functioning society the police would have taken action long ago, action being the operable word. My guess is that it is a bit overwhelming at this stage as to who they should be taking action against. Given their track record it is probably better that they do nothing as the saying goes, when in a hole etc.