How many thais "infiltrate" in Thai Visa forum?

Lidra · January 21, 2014

I had been reading thaivisa.com for a long time, and since a few months when all this antigoverment thing started, I start to find more and more posts supportoing some of the two groups in a very passionate way.

Those posts usually never comment they are thais but I suspect they are, I suppose they are curious to know wich side the farangs support, they may try to promote their favourite party and find support for their ideas, and I think often they may end fighting alone for their side.

Also find new topics that looks to be designed to make foreigners talk bad about thailand, like one recent post with this title " If you dont like Thailand, why stay here? " of course there is a lot of topics from foreigners complaining about something and there will always be, but for me some of the topics looks to be an intention to analyze the "farang" behaviour.

I dont mind if thai people comment with us, but I think it is bad for us that some of them try to make look their post as aggresive "farang" commets that talk bad about Thailand, talk bad about thai people, or to promote their politic idea.

By the way, I'm foreigner, spanish (sorry for my english, feel free to correct me if you need it).

I would like to know if some of you feel same as me, that there are some Thais hide around thaivisa.com, if not, I myself will go to visit the psychologist.

seajae · January 21, 2014

nothing wrong with thais being tv members, getting sick of the ones that have signed up purely to comment on the protests etc but nothing we can do about that either. This is a free country so looks like you will just have to live with it but there are many of them in here

FritsSikkink · January 21, 2014

infiltrate, hide

Not a bad idea to see a doctor.

cdnvic · January 21, 2014

Thais are more than welcome here, and over the years have been quite helpful.

bgrassboy · January 21, 2014

Save your money! No need to see a doctor! They are out to get you, it's not just your imagination.

wym · January 21, 2014

You can tell 99% of the time when a poster isn't a NES.

I too used to be amazed at how foreigners could let themselves be brainwashed to support one side or the other.

I imagine sometimes it's just by being "embedded" in a single sector of society, either his SO's circle of friends or via his work. Some people should get out more and mix in a variety of the many different subcultures here, broaden their horizons.

It is also likely that both sides use PR firms that hire people of different nationalities to post on the Internet and write articles/press releases for media to try to influence public opinion.

That is the only explanation that fits IMO for some of the writer that appear to be rabid fanatics with nothing to do but rave on about these topics, often without a single rational thought to be found in thousands of words.

cdnvic · January 21, 2014

That is the only explanation that fits IMO for some of the writer that appear to be rabid fanatics with nothing to do but rave on about these topics, often without a single rational thought to be found in thousands of words.

We have those from many, many countries.

iancnx · January 21, 2014

What exactly is the point of this thread? Who will know the answer? Admin? Well they ain't gonna tell are they? What a waste of time!

David48 · January 21, 2014

I had been reading thaivisa.com for a long time,

... but joined a few hours ago ...

Welcome to Thai Visa ... awesome first post!

mancub · January 21, 2014

Don't look for Thai nationals starting threads similar to those you mentioned......more likely to be trolling , often by a so-called apologist . The intention being to encourage some "Thai bashing " which can then be highlighted.

Don't look for infiltration...look for posters who constanly re-invent themselves .

bino · January 21, 2014

Thais are more than welcome here, and over the years have been quite helpful.

Indeed, and some Thais are regular frequent posters who post informative, thought provoking posts and sage advice. I always enjoy reading their posts. They communicate naturally enough in English that you would never ever know that they were Thai.

samran · January 21, 2014

Thais are more than welcome here, and over the years have been quite helpful.
Indeed, and some Thais are regular frequent posters who post informative, thought provoking posts and sage advice. I always enjoy reading their posts. They communicate naturally enough in English that you would never ever know that they were Thai.

Quite

Lidra · January 21, 2014

For some people this may be a not important question, but I will try to make another science-fiction sample of what I want to explain here...

"Lets supose that we are all USA foreigners living in Mexico, that we have our forum there to help each other, and that some

Mexicans go to that forum, and since they have a good use of english and can create "foreigner" profiles, they start topics

like "list of things that I hate from mexican people", "why Mexico will never be a developed country"... with the only intention

of find the worst feelings between USA foreigners to Mexico.

That would allow to those mexicans to use the post with negative comments about mexico to turn mexican population against foreigners.

And it would be at the end dangerous to all USA foreigners living in Mexico who whould think USA people hate Mexico."

That is what I think some thais are looking for here. They feed the bad feelings of the foreigners here, later they will use it against us.

And I may be wrong, but if I'm right, we are all in danger, and we should stop it before it is too late.

To finish and start to revert this situation, I would like to remember to the thai people that is around, that some negative comment

against Thailand, may be fake, and that some politics comments of foreigners supporting thaksin or antigoverment moves, also

can be fake, since most of us have a neutral point of view of thailand, and we try to find out the good and the bad effects of boths

politics groups, because nothing is black or white, if there is a devil, is because god allow it to exist...

WitawatWatawit · January 21, 2014

To what end? Jeez, this is ridiculous - conspiracy stuff. As if what is said on this forum is going to influence millions of Thais who don't read English or surf English language boards. As if the few who do are in any way swayed. As if they don't already have entrenched opinions. You place too much importance on immaterial stuff. Don't look over your shoulder. They're watching you.

BKK Blues Brother · January 21, 2014

Any Thai who can read and write English on here can only enhance the forum.

We need more!

chrisinth · January 21, 2014

Lidra, on 21 Jan 2014 - 23:04, said:

For some people this may be a not important question, but I will try to make another science-fiction sample of what I want to explain here...

"Lets supose that we are all USA foreigners living in Mexico, that we have our forum there to help each other, and that some

Mexicans go to that forum, and since they have a good use of english and can create "foreigner" profiles, they start topics

like "list of things that I hate from mexican people", "why Mexico will never be a developed country"... with the only intention

of find the worst feelings between USA foreigners to Mexico.

That would allow to those mexicans to use the post with negative comments about mexico to turn mexican population against foreigners.

And it would be at the end dangerous to all USA foreigners living in Mexico who whould think USA people hate Mexico."

That is what I think some thais are looking for here. They feed the bad feelings of the foreigners here, later they will use it against us.

And I may be wrong, but if I'm right, we are all in danger, and we should stop it before it is too late.

To finish and start to revert this situation, I would like to remember to the thai people that is around, that some negative comment

against Thailand, may be fake, and that some politics comments of foreigners supporting thaksin or antigoverment moves, also

can be fake, since most of us have a neutral point of view of thailand, and we try to find out the good and the bad effects of boths

politics groups, because nothing is black or white, if there is a devil, is because god allow it to exist...

Lidra, not sure what you are on, but pretty sure its a bad batch.

Please click on the thumb.

Truth be known, there are Thais on this forum and I personally would love to see more contributing. You need to get from under the bed and go out and meet some of them.

I would never normally class myself as one to say if you don't like it here, go home, but there has to be exceptions sometime.....

Lu0uX · January 21, 2014

OP please have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

I would sincerely suggest to get socially involved. Be it work, volunteering or whatever.

GinBoy2 · January 21, 2014

Dunno why you think it's Thai Fifth Columnists inflitratrating TV to promote one side or the other. Seems more like the usual bunch of 'Crazy Angry Old White Men'. At least if they're ranting on TV, they're not commiting mass murder as a relief for all their pent up anger!

Edited January 22, 2014 by GinBoy2

Somtamnication · January 22, 2014

nothing wrong with thais being tv members, getting sick of the ones that have signed up purely to comment on the protests etc but nothing we can do about that either. This is a free country so looks like you will just have to live with it but there are many of them in here

This is a free what?????? You serious?

sadhukar · January 22, 2014

Thais are more than welcome here, and over the years have been quite helpful.
Indeed, and some Thais are regular frequent posters who post informative, thought provoking posts and sage advice. I always enjoy reading their posts. They communicate naturally enough in English that you would never ever know that they were Thai.

why do I get the feeling that you're Thai...

Suradit69 · January 22, 2014

supportoing [sic] some of the two groups in a very passionate way.

A little welcome change from all the intellectually passionate jet-ski blather and really tiresome US versus THEM drivel usually posted by the self-assumed chosen people.

Those posts usually never comment they are thais but I suspect they are ...

Heaven help us. Real live Thais on a forum discussing Thailand. What's the world coming to? How devious ... and how revealing that you think their presence could be described as "infiltrating."

You can bet some real live Thais from Immigrations read with interest the nonsense posted in certain forums.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Suradit69

Docno · January 22, 2014

You can tell 99% of the time when a poster isn't a NES.

I too used to be amazed at how foreigners could let themselves be brainwashed to support one side or the other.

I imagine sometimes it's just by being "embedded" in a single sector of society, either his SO's circle of friends or via his work. Some people should get out more and mix in a variety of the many different subcultures here, broaden their horizons.

It is also likely that both sides use PR firms that hire people of different nationalities to post on the Internet and write articles/press releases for media to try to influence public opinion.

That is the only explanation that fits IMO for some of the writer that appear to be rabid fanatics with nothing to do but rave on about these topics, often without a single rational thought to be found in thousands of words.

Ha! It was my former hard-core yellow-shirt uni-educated gf who moved me closer to the red side of the house with all her talk of taking Preah Vihar by force, wiping Cambodia off the map, etc etc. She was otherwise a very nice person, but politics brought out a dark and nasty side in her that was very ugly to me (especially as someone who quite likes Cambodia and Cambodian people). That experience--along with some other stuff I read---convinced me that there's an ultra-nationalist, almost-fascistic, element at play there even if some of their criticisms of the Shins were valid. When I started with my current gf of 3 years I got to see first-hand how hard life as an Isaan farming family can be and how they have in the past felt so far removed from the elite power-base in Bangkok ... I've slept on floor mats and have had more cold-water 'basin showers' than I want to remember. I try not to be 'fanatical' in my views, but I do feel the blood boil a little when I 'hear' people from Bangkok/Pattaya/Phuket bad-mouthing Isaan people as ignorant bumpkins whose views and aspirations should be ignored. Some may call that brainwashing (though no Thai has ever tried to persuade me in one direction or another) ... I call it informed by experience. [And I sometimes wonder how many of the more rabid Suthep supporters here have ever made it out of walking street and into the real Thai countryside].

ezzra · January 22, 2014

I have an ideas Mod... how about initiating a nationality poll, just for general knowledge

and the fun of it,

In this poll, members of TV will indicate their country of origin or birth to see who many of

want nationalities are present on TV, needless to say that this is only for fun and not recial