CMPO to negotiate with protestors to return government offices

[Lite Beer]

CMPO to negotiate with protestors to return government offices
By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Jan 25 -- The Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) announced it would dispatch a team to negotiate with anti-government protesters to return government offices that were closed by the protesters, according to the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) director general Tarit Pengdith.

Mr Tarit, who is a member of the CMPO, said after the CMPO meeting that they are aiming for the return of government offices in order to open and operate services normally, such as Interior Ministry, Chaeng Wattana's Govermment Complex, which houses the DSI and Department of Consular Affairs.

The negotiating team would comprise the Permanent Secretaries of Ministries, heads of respective offices, as well as representatives from the National Police Bureau and the three armed forces, he said.

The negotiation would be done in front of the media, he said, adding that the talks would be carried out in a peaceful manner and the team would meet the leaders of the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) at the seven intersections which were protest venues - Chaeng Wattana, Lat Prao, Victory Monument, Pathumwan, Lumphini, Ratchaprasong, and Asoke, said Mr Tarit.

The DSI chief has also urged the public not to follow the protest leaders announcement to block polling stations tomorrow when the advance balloting would take place as this was an illegal act.

He said the DSI and the Anti-Money Laundering Office (AMLO) were investigating to find out the groups who were financial backers for the protest.

The DSI would seek court-issued arrest warrants for 16 protest leaders under the Emergency Decree which authorised the hold them in custody for 30 days.

Mr Tarit has urged the general public not to join the protest as it was illegal and they could face legal action. They were also at risk of injuries during the rallies.

In a separate press briefing, Mr Surapong Tovichakchaikul, an advisor to the CMPO, said that the caretaker government has authority to invoke the Emergency Decree and asserted that the general public in the areas enforced by the decree could carry on their normal lives.

Mr Surapong, caretaker Deputy Prime Minister/Minister of Foreign Affairs stressed that the government would not apply a heavy-handed approach or forced dispersal of rallies to regain the areas from the protesters.

He said the government would use talks to persuade protest supporters to end their acts that could cause a rift in society and lead to more violence.

Mr Surapong has also warned that obstructing the advance polling was illegal, violating election laws and the Emergency Decree. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-01-25

[householder]

Maybe I'm missing something, but why did this need an SoE to effect?

[soi41]

As much as I dislike Tarit, why negotiate with PDRC who has no official standing whatsoever?

What about telling the police to for once do their job and clear the streets??

[Scamper]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

[Gweiloman]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

Earth to Scamper:

as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court

That means nothing. His statements are not law

The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal

Those reaffirmations were about the protests pre 13 Jan, before the blockades of some intersections. I believe that the CC would not rule that the current protests are illegal if the case is brought before them.

[Melyn]

This CMPO seems to be a bizarre outfit.

Firstly they couldn't have selected a more vile collection of misfits than Chalerm, Surapong and Tarit.

Then they make all this noise about arresting Suthep and his band but do nothing.

Suthep walks to all the banned locations like a strutting peacock

Then they decide to negotiate with him.

The army find Chalerm so distasteful that they eject CMPO from their premises too

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[noitom]

As much as I dislike Tarit, why negotiate with PDRC who has no official standing whatsoever?

What about telling the police to for once do their job and clear the streets??

Great point. They have no standing and AMLO and DSI are searching for who funded them stating that they would arrest them. So why in the world the Thai CMPO announce that they are giving the PDRC credibility and will negotiate with them? What is wrong with these Thais? Don't they see that?

[Tatsujin]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

Earth to Scamper:

as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court

That means nothing. His statements are not law

The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal

Those reaffirmations were about the protests pre 13 Jan, before the blockades of some intersections. I believe that the CC would not rule that the current protests are illegal if the case is brought before them.

If you believe that the Constitution Court would not now deem the protests legal, why have PT not asked them to clarify and state that fact? Because right now, as far as "legality" goes, its been clearly stated they ARE legal until shown to be otherwise and surely that would suit PT better to be able to claim they are illegal.

[chooka]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

Earth to Scamper:

as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court

That means nothing. His statements are not law

The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal

Those reaffirmations were about the protests pre 13 Jan, before the blockades of some intersections. I believe that the CC would not rule that the current protests are illegal if the case is brought before them.

So we have the emergency decree in place and these people a legally breaking the laws? So I guess such things a emergency decrees and laws are not worth the paper they are written onthen.

[diehard60]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

[saltandpepper]

As much as I dislike Tarit, why negotiate with PDRC who has no official standing whatsoever?

What about telling the police to for once do their job and clear the streets??

Police, job and do in the same sentence? Something wrong here.

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[billd766]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

Just like the Red Shirts and the UDD in 2010 did.

[millwall_fan]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

Just like the Red Shirts and the UDD in 2010 did.

The major difference being that the Red Shirts were fighting to restore democracy, whereas the Yellows have consistently fought to destroy it.

[Melyn]

It seems clear that the 130,000 police that the CMPO promised must have forgotten to turn up to work tiday

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[millwall_fan]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

This process has gone well beyond civil disobedience. It is an attempt to overthrow the elected government using the forces of the state in an undemocratic fashion.

If you seriously think that the 100 Baht notes that people were given to 'donate' to Mr. Suthep constitute more than a fraction of the PDRC funds you are deluding yourself. We have already been told that the protests are costing 10m Baht per day. If they are getting 100,000 of that from 'Thai people on the streets'. I'd be surprised.The funds come from shadowy oligarchs every bit as powerful of Thaksin (and remember there's only one Thaksin there are dozens of these figures at teh apex of the Ruling Elite.

The constitutional Court, The Supreme Court and the rest are all elements of the Ruling Elite. Small wonder that their judgements back the protesters.

Edited January 26, 2014 by millwall_fan

[Halion]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

Just like the Red Shirts and the UDD in 2010 did.

The major difference being that the Red Shirts were fighting to restore democracy, whereas the Yellows have consistently fought to destroy it.

It would appear that you are yet another one who holds a very tainted and myopic definition of "democracy".

[pisico]

As much as I dislike Tarit, why negotiate with PDRC who has no official standing whatsoever?

What about telling the police to for once do their job and clear the streets??

I am sure that you are thinking of:

Ignorantia juris non excusat or ignorantia legis neminem excusat

Latin for: "ignorance of the law excuses no one."

TSK, TSK!!! Farang will never understand Thainess.

In Thailand laws are mere suggestions.

They are never applied (nor obeyed) to the letter.

[3NUMBAS]

Obama will be impressed at such gestures from the peacefull protesters

[tingtongteesood]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

Just like the Red Shirts and the UDD in 2010 did.

The major difference being that the Red Shirts were fighting to restore democracy, whereas the Yellows have consistently fought to destroy it.

Your argument fails because as most of us already know, Thailand DOESN'T HAVE DEMOCRACY ! Wake the heck up. If there was real democreacy here the PT criminals would have been removed and prevented from taking the country down the crapper to please their puppet master fugitive boss and the foolish sheeple who vote for them...

[tingtongteesood]

In the surreal world of Pheu Thai this seems perfectly reasonable. From Earth to Pheu Thai - this is a protest of civil disobedience. If you don't know what that means, just look it up. There is a proud history of its peaceful application. Mr. Tarit's idea of compliance is to ignore that, get back the departments that have been subject to corruption by this administration, while at the same time setting out to charge 16 leaders and hold them for 30 days, investigating those who donate to the movement ( hint - the Thai people on the streets ), deeming that the protest is illegal - whatever that means in the history of protest movements - tells the public to not join, and threatens injuries. Welcome to negotiations, Pheu Thai style ! And to Thaksin's cousin one should say this - a caretaker administration does not have the authority to administer an emergency decree, as was stated by the former chief justice of the Supreme Court. The Constitution Court not once - but three times - recently affirmed that this protest is indeed legal. Again, Pheu Thai talking about what is legal or not as if they have any conception of it - apart from apparently applying a very wide brush indeed, that apparently includes operating a proxy administration under the directives of a man sitting in a Dubai hotel room.

This process has gone well beyond civil disobedience. It is an attempt to overthrow the elected government using the forces of the state in an undemocratic fashion.

If you seriously think that the 100 Baht notes that people were given to 'donate' to Mr. Suthep constitute more than a fraction of the PDRC funds you are deluding yourself. We have already been told that the protests are costing 10m Baht per day. If they are getting 100,000 of that from 'Thai people on the streets'. I'd be surprised.The funds come from shadowy oligarchs every bit as powerful of Thaksin (and remember there's only one Thaksin there are dozens of these figures at teh apex of the Ruling Elite.

The constitutional Court, The Supreme Court and the rest are all elements of the Ruling Elite. Small wonder that their judgements back the protesters.

They are doing much better than you have been led to believe by the red propaganda. They had one donation of a million yesterday. Everyday they get millions from those who wish to see the fugitive and his criminal family and cronies let their claws out of Thailand so it might have a chance of a brighter future...Donations in the tens of thousands of baht from groups round the country are common.

As for the rest of what you said utter crap. The courts are doing their damn job. Just because it doesn't go the way you and the other red sheeple want it to, doesn't make it wrong...

[Dogmatix]

Campo opened negotiations Chalerm style this afternoon at the BangNa Srinakarin intersection.

[billd766]

You might as well talk to the wall. These yellow shirts thugs did this before and are doing it now. They know they can get away with it because they did before and will again.

Just like the Red Shirts and the UDD in 2010 did.

The major difference being that the Red Shirts were fighting to restore democracy, whereas the Yellows have consistently fought to destroy it.

Really? So killing troops means fighting to restore democracy as does invading hospitals, burning shopping malls, blockading part of the city means restoring democracy does it?

Please show me where the Yellow shirts by which I assume the current protesters are destroying democracy? Trying to reforn corrupt politics and cut back on corruption, trying to cut back on corruption and stop the country from being bankrupted is destroying democracy?

You must be living in a different Thailand to me and millions of Thais.