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Court rules today on warrants for arrest of 19 protesters
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BANGKOK, Jan 31 – The Criminal Court will decide today on whether a request to issue arrest warrants for 19 protest leaders including former Surat Thani MP Suthep Thaugsuban will be permitted.

The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) yesterday resubmitted its request after the court rejected it on Tuesday due to insufficient evidence.

The DSI earlier sought the court’s permission to issue arrest warrants for 16 protesters of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) but it added three more persons yesterday.

Eighteen other protesters on the “wanted list” are Satit Wongnhongtaey, Chumpol Julasai, Puttipong Punnakan, Issara Somchai, Witthaya Kaewparadai, Thaworn Senneam, Natthapon Theepsuwan, Akanat Promphan, Anchalee Paireerak, Nitithorn Lamlua, Uthai Yodmanee, Saemdin Lertbut, Gen Preecha Iamsuphan, Ratchayut Sirayothinpakdi or Amorn Amornratananont, Kittichai Saisa-ard, Samran Rodphet, Sonthiyan Chuenrithainaitham and Pansuwan Na Kaew.

The DSI charged them with violating Articles 11 (1) and 12 of the Emergency Decree.

Yuthana Phraedam, DSI special case expert, said investigative officials have added three more protesters in the arrest warrant request and prepared two more boxes of documents to substantiate allegations against Mr Suthep and other protesters for attempting to disrupt Sunday’s elections.

He said 22 government officials will be available to testify in court. (MCOT online news)

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-- TNA 2014-01-31

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They will all be living in Dubai at this rate.

You are not following the news! This is the second attempt to make criminal charges. The only difference is now they are adding 3 more people to the list.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You forgot to add Yingluck, Chalerm, and most of the PTP's leaders names as well as some if the ministers in the current gov to your list. They all have many skeletons in their closet

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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By all mean practicing your democratic right to say what you think is wrong, or may be who is more evil. The protests is not a holier than thou kind of protest. Daily intimidation and threat to topple a people elected government to start with and than after the government returned the power to the people for a mandate they began inciting for the blocking of a process which is sacred under the system of democracy.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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what about a government that pushes for an election when it is the only party that is standing for election, an election which will probably be cancelled as null and void due to lack of voters. Or do you expect that because PTP are the only party standing they will get all the votes, from all the electorate? lets face it the smaller parties won't make a showing as far as number of votes they get.

As for blackmailing a government? Is it not the government that are blackmailing everyone else if they don't get what they want. Besides it's not blackmail when protesters want to kick the government out. They are not saying give us this or else, they are saying enough to corruption and graft.

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it does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

Another fine example of yet another poster who is suffering from selective amnesia regarding the actions of the Red Shirts in 2010, yet he or she states that of course it's the P.R.D.C leadership etc who are the criminals.

Indeed your detours from the truth make humorous reading along with inducing much mirth and merriment regarding your utterances.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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By all mean practicing your democratic right to say what you think is wrong, or may be who is more evil. The protests is not a holier than thou kind of protest. Daily intimidation and threat to topple a people elected government to start with and than after the government returned the power to the people for a mandate they began inciting for the blocking of a process which is sacred under the system of democracy.

OK so how do you feel about the way the government have handled the rice scheme, how do you feel about the corruption and graft? how do you feel about the intimidation by various government ministers towards the protesters? Even the threats to the banks if they do not lend money to the government to pay for rice they cannot sell.

Did the people mandate the government to ruin the country? Do you feel that just because they were voted to power they should do as they please and the people Have no say in what happens?

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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what about a government that pushes for an election when it is the only party that is standing for election, an election which will probably be cancelled as null and void due to lack of voters. Or do you expect that because PTP are the only party standing they will get all the votes, from all the electorate? lets face it the smaller parties won't make a showing as far as number of votes they get.

As for blackmailing a government? Is it not the government that are blackmailing everyone else if they don't get what they want. Besides it's not blackmail when protesters want to kick the government out. They are not saying give us this or else, they are saying enough to corruption and graft.

Don't blame it to the government that there is only one real party to be able to vote for. It was a free decision of the democrats not to participate. Lack of voters? May be may be not in Bangkok and the south but that is not complete Thailand. A democratic process is also to get elected and be ready to face opposition! To stay out of election or try to hamper other people to vote is not a democratic process.

The protestors around K Suthep are blackmailing the government by asking them If you don't leave the government than we will.... That is blackmailing.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So perhaps you could explain the justification for the protests in 2010 and the fact that all laws were ignored by the protestors back then also?

I know you'll complain that this keeps getting dragged up, but it is relevant. If it was OK then for the pro-Thaksin side to completely ignore the rule of law, why is it not now ok for the anti-Govt side to do the same?

I do agree that if someone has an arrest warrant out on them they should submit to the rule of law, but let's not kid ourselves, it needs to start with those IN power. It was possible to stop these protests BEFORE they even got started by laying the law down, making clear what is and is not acceptable by law, keeping the protest sites limited to one or two, restricting movements of protestors, protecting those protesting either pro- or anti-, having a very heavy Police presence etc etc. All in all it's a job the Police have singularly and spectacularly failed to do, both in 2013/2014 and previously in 2010.

The cat is out of the bag now, good luck in putting it back in until such time as ALL sides agree to submit to and respect the rule of law. But let it start with those who are IN power to set the precedent.

The 2009 and 2010 protests ended after cracked down using heavy war weapons. The protesters are still in prisons without trial. Some on bail waiting trials. Not a single PAD leader ever step in a prison on the crimes they committed and their trials postponing endlessly.

I have on many occasion mentioned that the administration and enforcement of rule of law must be equal and without fear and favour.

I have also said : While it is commendable to avoid clashes and bloodshed when enforcing the rule of law, but when those restraint and patience attitude are being taken for granted and/or taken advantaged of, the enforcement must than be swift and forcibly carried out.

I know the law enforcement agencies especially the police are taking a very cautious step because of the corrupted and destructive judiciary - especially the so called independence agencies. They make ruling not on evidence and justice but their personal opinion, on conjecture and threat of their 'secret past' being surfaced.

That was what my current post is all about - You DON'T need an arrest warrant.

So, you've basically ok'd the response that was meted out in 2010, good to see that you are able to evenhandedly serve out justice to both sides:

I have on many occasion mentioned that the administration and enforcement of rule of law must be equal and without fear and favour.

While it is commendable to avoid clashes and bloodshed when enforcing the rule of law, but when those restraint and patience attitude are being taken for granted and/or taken advantaged of, the enforcement must than be swift and forcibly carried out.

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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what about a government that pushes for an election when it is the only party that is standing for election, an election which will probably be cancelled as null and void due to lack of voters. Or do you expect that because PTP are the only party standing they will get all the votes, from all the electorate? lets face it the smaller parties won't make a showing as far as number of votes they get.

As for blackmailing a government? Is it not the government that are blackmailing everyone else if they don't get what they want. Besides it's not blackmail when protesters want to kick the government out. They are not saying give us this or else, they are saying enough to corruption and graft.

PTP is not the only political party seeking a mandate of a legitimate power from the people.

The demand was made by the DEM about a month before the Parliament dissolved. When it actually happened, they boycotted it.

If you think that there is a massive corruption problem and/or abused of power of the current government, there should be no problem for other party to vote out the government represented by PTP instead of using destructive judiciary.

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So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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what about a government that pushes for an election when it is the only party that is standing for election, an election which will probably be cancelled as null and void due to lack of voters. Or do you expect that because PTP are the only party standing they will get all the votes, from all the electorate? lets face it the smaller parties won't make a showing as far as number of votes they get.

As for blackmailing a government? Is it not the government that are blackmailing everyone else if they don't get what they want. Besides it's not blackmail when protesters want to kick the government out. They are not saying give us this or else, they are saying enough to corruption and graft.

Don't blame it to the government that there is only one real party to be able to vote for. It was a free decision of the democrats not to participate. Lack of voters? May be may be not in Bangkok and the south but that is not complete Thailand. A democratic process is also to get elected and be ready to face opposition! To stay out of election or try to hamper other people to vote is not a democratic process.

The protestors around K Suthep are blackmailing the government by asking them If you don't leave the government than we will.... That is blackmailing.

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Sorry but that is not even an argument? PTP dissolved the government, they accepted a position as caretakers, at that point they should have gone for reform, but that was not their agenda.

Why don't you answer my questions? what do you think of the way the government have behaved in power, have they been for the people or themselves?

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It does not matter how or what the court will rule. It is obvious that the DEM's PDRC/PCAD has violated the rights of the people and continue to do so that it has become a national security problem. Their crimes were committed before the SOE was declared. They are now violating laws related to SOE.

You don't wait for an warrant of arrest when you see a robber robbing. You don't need an warrant of arrest when you encountered people intimidate and threaten you to stop works to join their activities. You don't need an arrest warrant to arrest people who made terrorist threat of shutting down a city if demand is not met. You don't need arrest warrant to arrest people threatened to cut water and electricity supply.

So perhaps you could explain the justification for the protests in 2010 and the fact that all laws were ignored by the protestors back then also?

I know you'll complain that this keeps getting dragged up, but it is relevant. If it was OK then for the pro-Thaksin side to completely ignore the rule of law, why is it not now ok for the anti-Govt side to do the same?

I do agree that if someone has an arrest warrant out on them they should submit to the rule of law, but let's not kid ourselves, it needs to start with those IN power. It was possible to stop these protests BEFORE they even got started by laying the law down, making clear what is and is not acceptable by law, keeping the protest sites limited to one or two, restricting movements of protestors, protecting those protesting either pro- or anti-, having a very heavy Police presence etc etc. All in all it's a job the Police have singularly and spectacularly failed to do, both in 2013/2014 and previously in 2010.

The cat is out of the bag now, good luck in putting it back in until such time as ALL sides agree to submit to and respect the rule of law. But let it start with those who are IN power to set the precedent.

The 2009 and 2010 protests ended after cracked down using heavy war weapons. The protesters are still in prisons without trial. Some on bail waiting trials. Not a single PAD leader ever step in a prison on the crimes they committed and their trials postponing endlessly.

I have on many occasion mentioned that the administration and enforcement of rule of law must be equal and without fear and favour.

I have also said : While it is commendable to avoid clashes and bloodshed when enforcing the rule of law, but when those restraint and patience attitude are being taken for granted and/or taken advantaged of, the enforcement must than be swift and forcibly carried out.

I know the law enforcement agencies especially the police are taking a very cautious step because of the corrupted and destructive judiciary - especially the so called independence agencies. They make ruling not on evidence and justice but their personal opinion, on conjecture and threat of their 'secret past' being surfaced.

That was what my current post is all about - You DON'T need an arrest warrant.

So, you've basically ok'd the response that was meted out in 2010, good to see that you are able to evenhandedly serve out justice to both sides:

I have on many occasion mentioned that the administration and enforcement of rule of law must be equal and without fear and favour.

While it is commendable to avoid clashes and bloodshed when enforcing the rule of law, but when those restraint and patience attitude are being taken for granted and/or taken advantaged of, the enforcement must than be swift and forcibly carried out.

OF COURSE. I have been saying all the time that I am on the side of rule of law and that its administration and enforcement should be equal and without fear and favour.

I have also said, what we are currently facing is the crisis on the administration and enforcement of rule of law. This crisis can be resolved through talk between people behind the two power groups. I have shared my opinion on this at the forum. However, IMO that talk should exclude party/ies who have no confidence in democratic process of winning the people's mandate for a legitimate power. Using them or helping them is feeding their victim mentality. Let them solve their own problems or let other parties progress and fill their places.

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From an earlier News Tread:
"Thailand's DSI chief says five key PDRC leaders are foreigners"

Now try to guess, which ones are the "Foreigners"

Satit Wongnhongtaey, (Not really a person but some kind of Korean Breakfast)
Chumpol Julasai, (Israel)
Puttipong Punnakan, (Pakistan)
Issara Somchai, (Very Typical Irish Name)
Witthaya Kaewparadai, (Sounds Italian)
Thaworn Senneam, (possibly Thai but very unlikely, maybe Cambodian)
Natthapon Theepsuwan, (Sri Lanka)
Akanat Promphan, (Propan works either for Shell or Esso)
Anchalee Paireerak, (Sounds Greek)
Nitithorn Lamlua, (Thorn? Definitely Devon, UK)
Uthai Yodmanee, (Yodeling? Definitely Swiss)
Saemdin Lertbut, (Empty Butt not a person)
Gen Preecha Iamsuphan, (Jehovas witness preeching from Alabama)
Ratchayut Sirayothinpakdi or Amorn Amornratananont, (Dual Nationality or just split personality?)
Kittichai Saisa-ard, (Not a real Thai, just a Siamese Pussycat)
Samran Rodphet, (Not a real person either but Father Christmases little helper)
Sonthiyan Chuenrithainaitham (Now he must be Thai - ThaiNaThaiNaThaiNa)
Pansuwan Na Kaew ( Maybe Thai too -Naaa?)

Although it says, "Including Suthep", I can't see him. I recon he's possibly hiding behind
Pussycat and Father Christmas.

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So pray tell what do you need an arrest warrant for? Maybe it is a peaceful protest, people practising their democratic right to say what they think is wrong. Your a fascist, as you call them terrorists.

A peaceful protest? What about the democratic rights of the people who want to vote?

You are calling him a fascist, based on what? If a group of people taking hostage a whole city that is a terroristic act? Nothing against demonstrations nothing against strikes but blackmailing a government is not a democratic right.

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what about a government that pushes for an election when it is the only party that is standing for election, an election which will probably be cancelled as null and void due to lack of voters. Or do you expect that because PTP are the only party standing they will get all the votes, from all the electorate? lets face it the smaller parties won't make a showing as far as number of votes they get.

As for blackmailing a government? Is it not the government that are blackmailing everyone else if they don't get what they want. Besides it's not blackmail when protesters want to kick the government out. They are not saying give us this or else, they are saying enough to corruption and graft.

PTP is not the only political party seeking a mandate of a legitimate power from the people.

The demand was made by the DEM about a month before the Parliament dissolved. When it actually happened, they boycotted it.

If you think that there is a massive corruption problem and/or abused of power of the current government, there should be no problem for other party to vote out the government represented by PTP instead of using destructive judiciary.

You seem to forget or choose not to recognise the fact the the Judiciary are independent, something the government tried to alter so as not to have the checks and balances that control any government. But in your eyes they are destructive? how do you work that out.

Oh I see just because they are independent and find against the government then they must be on the democrats side against the government. Really?

Is it impossible to think that maybe the independent Judiciary may actually be the only law in this country that can save Thailand from itself?

And yet again another one who can't answer the questions I put forward. Do you really believe PTP have been a good government, none corrupted not riddled with graft??

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