Suthep: PDRC member involved in Laksi shooting

[HUAHIN62]

That guy was no typical guard. He was well trained in using that weapon to kill.

They are either body guards/hitmen with police or military backgrounds or insurgents from the deep south. The registration numbers of vehicles driven by these guards indicates they are from the deep south.

[ShannonT]

Learn to read what you post.

You said "Suthep's militia" shot him.

That's not been established.

All that's been established is that he was shot in a crossfire, eg. 2 groups firing at each other.

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Crossfire does NOT mean that two sides (pro election vs. Suthep militia) were shooting. It means that shots were coming from different directions passing through the same location. So if the pro-election people were fired on from left and from right, that is crossfire.

The post does say he was hit in "crossfire", you are right, but I see no photo evidence of pro-election supporters holding weapons, only Suthep's men with black clothing and black masks.

Crossfire could mean either.

There's photos of red shirts with guns, hence "2 groups".

It cannot mean either. It means one thing, which is what I explained to you. If you do not understand it, you can go read it again in a dictionary which will tell you the same thing.

And show me the photos of red shirts with guns at Laksi please, I have not seen any.

They find it helps not to wear red, like in 2010 when they wore black.

Do you want a video where they are filming themselves in red and showing closeups of their ID's?

You are so clueless that I am flabbergasted, or you have a complex getting owned and painting yourself into a corner on here. Get out more, and meet some locals, learn the language, the culture a little recent history. Get cracking.

I am just asking for proof of your rumors. It does not help the current situation to spread rumors without proof so please stop it.

[ShannonT]

Learn to read what you post.

You said "Suthep's militia" shot him.

That's not been established.

All that's been established is that he was shot in a crossfire, eg. 2 groups firing at each other.

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Crossfire does NOT mean that two sides (pro election vs. Suthep militia) were shooting. It means that shots were coming from different directions passing through the same location. So if the pro-election people were fired on from left and from right, that is crossfire.

The post does say he was hit in "crossfire", you are right, but I see no photo evidence of pro-election supporters holding weapons, only Suthep's men with black clothing and black masks.

Crossfire could mean either.

There's photos of red shirts with guns, hence "2 groups".

In military terms cross fire denotes being caught or should I say shot between one group of people. Not TWO.

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He is only a keyboard warrior. What did you expect?

[edwardandtubs]

The evidence is so overwhelming even Suthep knows he can't lie his way out, so he goes for a damage limitation exercise instead. Unfortunately for him everyone can see his thugs attempting to murder people just for going out to vote.

[ShannonT]

The evidence is so overwhelming even Suthep knows he can't lie his way out, so he goes for a damage limitation exercise instead. Unfortunately for him everyone can see his thugs attempting to murder people just for going out to vote.

Strange that in the evening he didn't mention the Laksi shooting in his speech. Why is that?

Normally he's so quick to blame everything on red shirts. If the shooters were really red shirts as some uneducated folks on here are claiming, why didn't Suthep mention it?

He knows very well that the men in black with heavy weapons firing on pro-election protesters were his militia.

[SOTIRIOS]

.....mercenaries smuggled into the country......

...anti-government protesters being 'picked off like flies'.....

...one would wonder that more of them wouldn't want to protect themselves....

[ShannonT]

.....mercenaries smuggled into the country......

...anti-government protesters being 'picked off like flies'.....

...one would wonder that more of them wouldn't want to protect themselves....

Where is the proof of mercenaries smuggled into the country and the proof that pro-election protesters are responsible for "picking off" anti government protesters "like flies" (although I do agree that they are as annoying as flies)?

I don't think anything I've seen justifies an armed militia running around the streets of Bangkok with heavy war weapons in broad daylight (or at night, for that matter).

[ianf]

After all the violence that occurred because of Suthep, it may be time now for the whole country to protest to eradicate Suthep and his criminal supporters from the country.

And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

These mobs were in the streets clearly to create unrest and send Thailand to the abyss.

Sent from my iPhone...

OK: But will you say them same thing about Thaksin, Chalerm, Arissman, Jutaporn and all the others involved and encouraging the violence and arson during the red occupation? If so then you are presenting a balanced view. If not, why not?

[Dogmatix]

Another shot of white-balaclava man, with his side bag and his walkie talkie, (=long finger man??)

Added: this is the group coming from off the bridge after the first set of bombs were thrown at the pro-democracy protestors.

Take a look at this man in particular with the side bag and the long fingers.

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Here's another shot, with his sandals, there's a photo I've seen that's much higher res than this video shot, I'm looking for it now.

Note in the top picture his face is almost visible through the cloth covering his face.

Bkk's finest should get its foot recognition software working right away. Should be no trouble to get an imprint of his toe prints from this photograph.

[Cricketnut]

After all the violence that occurred because of Suthep, it may be time now for the whole country to protest to eradicate Suthep and his criminal supporters from the country.

And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

These mobs were in the streets clearly to create unrest and send Thailand to the abyss.

Sent from my iPhone...

OK: But will you say them same thing about Thaksin, Chalerm, Arissman, Jutaporn and all the others involved and encouraging the violence and arson during the red occupation? If so then you are presenting a balanced view. If not, why not?

Because people are not living in the past but the present. Try and look forward to solve problems through your dialogue and not the past that no one can change, THAT is why!

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[Mackie]

He is only a keyboard warrior. What did you expect?

The pot calling the kettle black. We didn't expect anything better from you than continual nonsense and propaganda posts devoid of any substance. Any ex-military on this forum would tell us that there was a battle going on between two armed sides. Those guys did not act for the cameras, those guys didn't take cover for the sake of taking it, those guys faced equally armed opponents. Most likely fellow ex-military or police but fighting for the other side. The only difference is all the journalists and cameras were on the PDRC side. No one covered the other side. That might give you the clue why Thaksin pays big bucks to PR agencies to give his side good coverage and lobby on his behalf. It doesn't come cheap. You need to grow up a bit. Life is not the one way street.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Mackie

[Loles]

Learn to read what you post.

You said "Suthep's militia" shot him.

That's not been established.

All that's been established is that he was shot in a crossfire, eg. 2 groups firing at each other.

.

Crossfire does NOT mean that two sides (pro election vs. Suthep militia) were shooting. It means that shots were coming from different directions passing through the same location. So if the pro-election people were fired on from left and from right, that is crossfire.

The post does say he was hit in "crossfire", you are right, but I see no photo evidence of pro-election supporters holding weapons, only Suthep's men with black clothing and black masks.

Crossfire could mean either.

There's photos of red shirts with guns, hence "2 groups".

SammyD give up and throw away your yellow eye-patch.

[metisdead]

Posts using all caps have been removed.

[love1012]

The Suthep apologist's here defending the actions of the gunmen should hang their heads in shame. Take a good long look at yourselves.

I'm proud that suphet has balls to stand up against your red thugs and their master take a good look yourself at who you are supporting and his vile doings how about condemning gunmen on both sides instead of talking total crap

Personally Suthep, his yellow thugs and all those who support his dirty goals, including irrational farangs, make me want to vomit.

On the other side, Yingluck can be very proud of having succeeded to have elections with minor disturbances.

Her soft approach and wise moves since the beginning of the protests have saved Thailand from the chaos that Suthep and the Dems needed to gain power.

Praise on her.

Unfortunately, Suthep is already getting ready for his next silly "upgrade"...

Sending the country into turmoil needs "balls", but there is nothing to be proud of...

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Its farang lke YOU that give western people a bad name with Thai people!! Go and lick your masters heels in Dubai!!

[espinoza]

Hand over the whole group with their walkie talkies too for questioning.

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And Buddha issara seems to have one:

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And these lots

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This buddha Isara should been put in jail, maybe he`s a muslim in disguice ???

[DrMe]

They shot 6 people! Hand them over, especially pop-corn bag man.

The weapons came in on a van seen with PDRC marches before, so hand in the weapons for forensic and the van!

Hand over the bomberman, we have his picture, we have video showing he is with the same group.

The man with the white balaclava seen with the gunman group, hand him over,

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Everyone of these:

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Hand them over.

Do you have the same detailed information on those gunmen killed 10 ?

I would like to see, please.

Do you think that those who kill innocent demonstrators are not important, just if - as you suppose - Suthep's followers do the same?

Do you really think that a gun-fighting do not need opponents? Where do you hide the information on them ???

Have you ever heard about red terrorist trowing bombs into the people ?

Shame on you ....

[tingtongteesood]

After all the violence that occurred because of Suthep, it may be time now for the whole country to protest to eradicate Suthep and his criminal supporters from the country.

And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

These mobs were in the streets clearly to create unrest and send Thailand to the abyss.

Sent from my iPhone...

What about all the violence that has occurred because of Taksin, his cronies, the men in black and their private red militia ?

I see you condemning and attacking Suteb and the protestors almost every day but you never say anything to condemn the actions of the convicted fugitive and his cronies or their private red militia...

Or is everything bad they do ok for you regardless of legality and violence because you are a red sheeple ?

[casualbiker]

"The police were able to ascertain that there were seven different types of weapon used in the shootings from 0.38 inches, 0.45 inches, 9 mm, shotgun pellets, high velocity hunting rifles of .223 inches in caliber, AK 47s of 7.62 mm caliber and carbines. The police will be comparing their findings at the scene with the numerous eye-witness accounts and other evidence in order to make a strong case."

interesting from the other thread... 7 different calibers / weapons including AK47 (7.62) rounds. So hand guns , shotguns, assault rifles (newspaper is being nice stating .223 which is 5.56mm) and 7.62.

[HooHaa]

Another shot of white balaclava man

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Thrower is on the right, Balaclava man :Tight pants / fancy striped sandles / long fingers.

balaclava-man-closeup.jpg

Here's a closeup.

one begins to wonder if he was an ex-lover that spurned you recently. we get the idea.

[Roychua]

Why is it the red supporters can go around shooting, bombing and creating mayhem without too many worries, but as soon as PDRC member discharges a firearm (for what ever reason) all the TV reds jump on the band-wagon with pictures, accusations and the usual nonsense demanding police involvement, arrests etc., but awfully quiet when its the reds involved. and what seems to be the BIG problem with walkie -talkies.

Give it a break reds, find something constructive to discuss.

It is the same on both side in TVF. You obviously miss all the other OP when the anti-gov protesting site was attack, a lot of pro anti-gov supporter here was also screaming Red-Shirt.

All violence should be condemn regardless of which side we support, anyone who got injured or killed over these past few month is somebody loved one.

[SamMunich]

.And since this violence occurred with the support of Abhisit and the Dems, they should be banned from politics for life and sent to rehab for several years too.

How about a re-education camp gerry? That would be cool huh! Lulz...

Oh yeah! And the army and the banking bosses too, they were supporting it also! Why don't we make all of Bangkok one big prison or re-education camp for all of it's inhabitants! Call up the SS, sorry the Red shirts, to take over the concentration camp "Krung Thep"...The SS will know all about GASsing...

[englishoak]

Really funny to see the back peddling some are doing now.... a terrorist is a terrorist.... sutheps & co are just another excuse for one in a long tradition in this country of if you don't get what you want ... go kill some people to prove your right..

[ikurauni]

I hate to think how many would have died had some PDRC had not carried weapons to protect protesters.

The red shirts are clearly allowed to arm themselves with guns by the police.

The police have ignored over 40 armed attacks on protesters and failed to get hold of a single attacker. As soon as the PDRC try to protect themselves, the police are screaming for convictions.

What does that tell you?

The police are nothing more than an extension of Thaksin's terrorist unit. They are probably implicit in carrying out attacks themselves.

These double standards can not and should not be allowed to continue. The army must either start arming themselves, or the PDRC have a legitimate right to bear arms.

Had they not shot back at the Ko Tee assault, many more protesters may have perished.

Can the red lot on here stop screaming out for justice, unless you also mean justice against all the attacks on the protesters.

Some of the top Thai elite people indicated that Thaksin bought both army and police. This is just a rumor but I am not surprised that if they got paid very well.

The fact is that money talks in Thailand and this country has been controlled by Thaksin and his family. I just can't believe many of the BS comments the PM made about the current issues but she has been acting and following the instruction from her evil relative in Dubai.

Thai people need more education.

They have to realize and understand the truth so that they can make educated decisions. But the current ruler wants the poor farmers to be ignorant and stupid so that they can easily control them with the money. We will see how it will be.

[tingtongteesood]

No back peddling here, I still believe the PDRC are by far the lesser of two evils and I believe they have a right to self defence which is I believe a right under many democracies is it not ? I am still not sure exactly what happened at Lak Si, waiting for a full report before I pass judgement.

[englishoak]

I do not see the Lak Si incident as self defence but rather purely offensive, payback time maybe but one that does not justify what happened at Lak Si in the slightest.

The claim being a peaceful movement is shot to pieces... its just another terrorist faction now guilty of injuring civilians, no more.

Edited February 3, 2014 by englishoak

[charmonman]

The Suthep apologist's here defending the actions of the gunmen should hang their heads in shame. Take a good long look at yourselves.

I'm proud that suphet has balls to stand up against your red thugs and their master take a good look yourself at who you are supporting and his vile doings how about condemning gunmen on both sides instead of talking total crap

Personally Suthep, his yellow thugs and all those who support his dirty goals, including irrational farangs, make me want to vomit.

On the other side, Yingluck can be very proud of having succeeded to have elections with minor disturbances.

Her soft approach and wise moves since the beginning of the protests have saved Thailand from the chaos that Suthep and the Dems needed to gain power.

Praise on her.

Unfortunately, Suthep is already getting ready for his next silly "upgrade"...

Sending the country into turmoil needs "balls", but there is nothing to be proud of...

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You have a short memory. I don't. In 2010 it was the red thugs along with Jatuporn, Natawut, Arisman, the man pulling ALL the strings Thaksin, and their followers, including irrational farangs, that made ME want to vomit.

Yingluck's "soft approach" has solved nothing. Neither did Abhisit's "soft approach" in the first two months of the Red fascist disturbances in 2010. Remember, Abhisit offered fresh elections then as well, that were completely rejected by the Red fascists.

I don't see how any of this ends until the Shinawatra clan are completely removed from Thai politics. Surely the farmers of Thailand can find a more honest and less self-serving champion who won't completely enrage other elements of society with arrogance and corruption?

[citizen33]

The Suthep apologist's here defending the actions of the gunmen should hang their heads in shame. Take a good long look at yourselves.

I'm proud that suphet has balls to stand up against your red thugs and their master take a good look yourself at who you are supporting and his vile doings how about condemning gunmen on both sides instead of talking total crap

Personally Suthep, his yellow thugs and all those who support his dirty goals, including irrational farangs, make me want to vomit.

On the other side, Yingluck can be very proud of having succeeded to have elections with minor disturbances.

Her soft approach and wise moves since the beginning of the protests have saved Thailand from the chaos that Suthep and the Dems needed to gain power.

Praise on her.

Unfortunately, Suthep is already getting ready for his next silly "upgrade"...

Sending the country into turmoil needs "balls", but there is nothing to be proud of...

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You have a short memory. I don't. In 2010 it was the red thugs along with Jatuporn, Natawut, Arisman, the man pulling ALL the strings Thaksin, and their followers, including irrational farangs, that made ME want to vomit.

Yingluck's "soft approach" has solved nothing. Neither did Abhisit's "soft approach" in the first two months of the Red fascist disturbances in 2010. Remember, Abhisit offered fresh elections then as well, that were completely rejected by the Red fascists.

I don't see how any of this ends until the Shinawatra clan are completely removed from Thai politics. Surely the farmers of Thailand can find a more honest and less self-serving champion who won't completely enrage other elements of society with arrogance and corruption?

Many of us were around in 2010 and remember what happened all too well. This is the kind of thing that aroused my disgust:

http://www.thaiaccountability.org/media/witty-video-6

Your ilk tried to rewrite history then, just as they attempt to pull the wool over people's eyes now. The constant is that Khun Suthep gave the nod then as now.

[citizen33]

The above was 2010. Here is another from 2014.

[noitom]

These are some set of photos of Thais running around with obvious automatic war weapons in Thai protest zones. What a nice place for a vacation or a business trip.

[Centrum]

You have a short memory. I don't. In 2010 it was the red thugs along with Jatuporn, Natawut, Arisman, the man pulling ALL the strings Thaksin, and their followers, including irrational farangs, that made ME want to vomit.

Yingluck's "soft approach" has solved nothing. Neither did Abhisit's "soft approach" in the first two months of the Red fascist disturbances in 2010. Remember, Abhisit offered fresh elections then as well, that were completely rejected by the Red fascists.

I don't see how any of this ends until the Shinawatra clan are completely removed from Thai politics. Surely the farmers of Thailand can find a more honest and less self-serving champion who won't completely enrage other elements of society with arrogance and corruption?

Excellent post.

An interesting point. If you ever discuss the changes made in the north-east and the north, with folk from those areas, they will tell you that everything came from Thaksin, not their local PPP/PTP representative, but from Thaksin himself.

It's a personality cult that rivals the North Koreans. And as such, he does rival someone else.

The folk from upcountry can't see past Thaksin. They can't organise themselves politically independent of HIM. He is the pied piper of Isaan.