celso Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/705933-thailand-live-friday-21-feb-2014/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnP1752 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Suthep gave his 25 million baht donations he collected for the farmers, to the Law Society of Thailand, so that they can sue the Government. The farmers never received anything from Suthep. The Law Society of Thailand is now accusing the police of shooting protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthompson Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Is this a joke? They travel all the way to BKK and just like that they are gone. Just like that they are this time actually satisfied with the reply they got from the government. After all those numerous false promises before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Snake Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Like a said a few times before, she told them the check is in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Take the Airport... how original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm guessing somebody has given them some good faith money to diffuse the crisis long enough to get to the next shell game. Any guesses who? Beware of strangers from the desert bearing gifts. Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacker Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Imagine the gasoline bill for driving a tractor that distance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 They're on their way back home now. Their leader must have been bribed by PTP a pretty big amount to call off the Peasant Patrol! Seems strange they are going to turn around just like that based on another government promise of payment next week. Remember the leader is in the Chaichartpattana perty so maybe Banharn had a word in his ear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm guessing somebody has given them some good faith money to diffuse the crisis long enough to get to the next shell game. Any guesses who? Beware of strangers from the desert bearing gifts. Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I have to repeat my post from about a week ago. A Thai farmer is like a 5 year old child. When he cries, PROMISE he will get an ice cream later, and he will stop crying regardless if he will get the ice cream or not. Repeat as often as necessary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasVic Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> looks like brand new tractors, unlike agricultural machinery which is seen in the countryside. somebody lend them to the farmers? also it looks like there are several groups, each with a different objective. It seems somebody is playing politics, instead for the farmers to represent themselves. those national flags on the tractors are worrying, a nationalist card is played too often in thai politics, always against interests of the majority This is clearly an orchestrated event! It is interesting that these farmers are all from areas just immediately north of Bangkok, you don't see any farmers from the Royong-Trat region or Korat, Surin, Ubon, Udon or any area in the north. This just goes to show that the folks backing suthep have deep pockets and really want a protracted fight. The government needs to double down and equip the police with tear gas, rubber bullets and water Cannons, its too bad that Thailand doesn't have the new sound wave technology to disperse crowds as this would be a perfect opportunity to deploy the new technology 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullstop Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Doesn't seem to be much of a choice in tractor models in Thailand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Snake Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 About face. Forward March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Imagine the gasoline bill for driving a tractor that distance!!! And, 2 days from Issan, maybe 3 days 2 nights from Udon. The Thai farmer said---" Oh never mind it's only the 20th time they gave us a date for payment" <deleted>...........somebody is crossoppled here ----free scans at your local hospital needed urgent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm in the market for one of these tractors... any idea where they got them from... obviously good tax concessions, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 be interesting to see how the police deal with this I also think that these farmers will get angry very quickly will there be confrontation between the two factions This is pretty dire stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinsurin Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) About face. Forward March. Got a new tractor! All go home. Thanks Suthep. Edited February 21, 2014 by lostinsurin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasVic Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Looking at the other news thread, the farmers have turned around and are now going home... because the government promised to pay them next week? It sounds very odd if true. The fact that they would turn around without any protest, and that they would believe a govt promise of payment. More than likely because suthep didn't come up with the money he promised these farmers in the first place If this were a true agrarian uprising then there would be farmers from all over Thailand participating (not just one small area directly north of the capitol) and they would descend upon Bangkok and not leave until all their grievances were fully addressed Once again this was an orchestrated event that suthep has encouraged, since his popular support is all but gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 looks like brand new tractors, unlike agricultural machinery which is seen in the countryside. somebody lend them to the farmers? also it looks like there are several groups, each with a different objective. It seems somebody is playing politics, instead for the farmers to represent themselves. those national flags on the tractors are worrying, a nationalist card is played too often in thai politics, always against interests of the majority This is clearly an orchestrated event! It is interesting that these farmers are all from areas just immediately north of Bangkok, you don't see any farmers from the Royong-Trat region or Korat, Surin, Ubon, Udon or any area in the north. This just goes to show that the folks backing suthep have deep pockets and really want a protracted fight. The government needs to double down and equip the police with tear gas, rubber bullets and water Cannons, its too bad that Thailand doesn't have the new sound wave technology to disperse crowds as this would be a perfect opportunity to deploy the new technology If course it is an orchestrated event, mass demonstrations usually are. Does that make their grievances any less valid? Gassing unpaid farmers or gunning them down would be instant political suicide. Sent from somewhere in the Pacific 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom21 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 there was an election which the results have not been declared yet and the farmers are after what????????? I feel sorry for them but they are going about it the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Farmers agree to return home after govt promises to pay for pledged rice next week;otherwise farmers threaten to close Suvarnabhumi Airport:Former MP Chada /MCOT RT @RichardBarrow: 11:40am Farmers give govt 6 weeks to pay - RT @7_preysor: ชาวนาอุทัยธานีให้เวลารบ.6อาทิตย์ หากไม่จ่ายเงินจำนำข้าวทั้งประเทศ ยกขบวนไล่รัฐบาล Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 'Some farmers would be heading to Suvarnabhumi Airport, for a purpose he did not specify. But, they insisted that they would not obstruct air traffic or raid the airport. They only wanted to make a symbolic demonstration. After that, this group of farmers will move to other places.' Makes the newspaper headline appear to be somewhat misleading. Wasnt this mentioned weeks and weeks ago BEFORE the farmers got involved (by AGAIN crappy PooYingLuck) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasVic Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Imagine the gasoline bill for driving a tractor that distance!!! And, 2 days from Issan, maybe 3 days 2 nights from Udon. The Thai farmer said---" Oh never mind it's only the 20th time they gave us a date for payment" <deleted>...........somebody is crossoppled here ----free scans at your local hospital needed urgent . alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24> Nobody pictured here drove a tractor in from Udon, are you really that clueless? These tractors are all from the Ayutthaya region just north of Bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Soulbundy, stop being a keyboard warrior, I am only giving my opinion on things which this forum is all about. Baiting me is not going to work. No offence intended,all good clean fun. Time we all chilled out a bit and had a laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney R Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I made some inquiries about this thing from non-PAD-Dem sources. They perceive it as the commercial farmer's wing of the anti-democrat movement threatening the airport. Regardless of protestations to the contrary, just going there is a 'threat'. Shades of the PAD. According to them, the PAD has never "died," been "finished" or "disbanded." PAD remains the core of the current anti-democrat movement. Its strategists and activists have been at the sharp end of every anti-democratic action since 2005, and they are critically important for the current anti-democrat action, especially now that it is essentially a violent and armed movement. Another thing they said that was interesting, was to see the plethora of seemingly new Kubota tractors, and referencing some interesting linckages between Kubota and Elitist elements..These farmers would not be doing such a thing without considerable compensation. Given the anti-UDD/RS/PTP bent of the mainstream media, these linckages and motivations are left largely unexplained. Seeking only to bolster anti-Govt motivations and by extension, anti all those millions whose electoral choice they are trying to nullify. These imaginary "sources" would you care to share or is this just your thinking and trying to make it credible by evoking the " I was told by reliable people" statement . "These imaginary "sources" would you care to share....."Be happy to Barney R. I live in a heavily populated UDD/RS area and hear their perspective all the time. Many times my comments channel this POV, as I am primarily a pro-electoral Democracy and anti-coup type, respecting the choices of the Thai electorate. Being equally exposed to the anti-UDD/RS media, the inconsistencies between the two perspectives jumps out. It is good to be exposed to both sides, don't you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidhere Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Ouch!!!! That's going to hurt big time, attacking the heart of amazing Thailand where it starts with the people rice farmers... Technically a great idea from their point of view.... Well done Yingluck, you better flee to Hawaii or Ibiza now, before the rice farmers catch you,... why Hawaii?don't hurt our feelings, we don't need her here. Fleeing to Hawaii would just be another similarity the Shinawatra Clan share with the Marcos Clan. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinsurin Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 So once again the end was not to be. To be cont..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) ...Former Chart Thai Pattana Party MP Chada Thaiset, who represents Uthai Thani farmers, led some 15,000 farmers from Uthai Thani, Ayutthaya, Singburi and Ang Thong to Bangkok."I decided to lead the convoy because I feel sorry for the farmers and I am fed up with the government's lies about the payment, which never came," said Chada, whose party is a coalition partner of the Pheu Thai-led caretaker government.... Looks like a rejiggering of aliances, even if Chada is a former MP she is still in the loop. So the coalition partners are getting antsy? Seems this is a hint of them not wanting to go down with the good ship Shinawatra. SECONDLY ...A leader of Lop Buri-based farmers, Ubolsak Bualuangngarm, said the farmers would blockade the capital for seven days if the government failed to pay them. He, however, said they would not cooperate with the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee in its drive to oust the government. He also asked capital residents to stockpile food supplies for seven days."If the government wants to disperse farmers' protests or arrest us, we are all ready to die, and donate our bodies," he said.... A very determined level of intent being stated here. Push has gone to shove and right onward into 'jackboot in the face', and this lost face and growing debt by the farmers is causing a true grass roots uprising against the liege lords minions treating them like dirt. Edited February 21, 2014 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Soulbundy, stop being a keyboard warrior, I am only giving my opinion on things which this forum is all about. Baiting me is not going to work. No offence intended,all good clean fun. Time we all chilled out a bit and had a laugh. Good man, there is nothing better than a laugh sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 if this country were ruled by farang it would be sooooooooooo much better ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasVic Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> looks like brand new tractors, unlike agricultural machinery which is seen in the countryside.somebody lend them to the farmers?also it looks like there are several groups, each with a different objective. It seems somebody is playing politics, instead for the farmers to represent themselves.those national flags on the tractors are worrying, a nationalist card is played too often in thai politics, always against interests of the majorityThis is clearly an orchestrated event! It is interesting that these farmers are all from areas just immediately north of Bangkok, you don't see any farmers from the Royong-Trat region or Korat, Surin, Ubon, Udon or any area in the north. This just goes to show that the folks backing suthep have deep pockets and really want a protracted fight. The government needs to double down and equip the police with tear gas, rubber bullets and water Cannons, its too bad that Thailand doesn't have the new sound wave technology to disperse crowds as this would be a perfect opportunity to deploy the new technology If course it is an orchestrated event, mass demonstrations usually are. Does that make their grievances any less valid?Gassing unpaid farmers or gunning them down would be instant political suicide.Sent from somewhere in the Pacific I do not know if their grievance are valid or not, what I do know is that this group is coming in from a very small area directly north of Bangkok which represents less than 1% of the Thai farming community, and they were in talks with sutheps people and encouraged (likely promised monetary consideration) by sutheps group! The tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannons were a suggestion for the remaining protestors in sutheps group or if these farmers did in fact try and overtake the airport like the yellow shirts did, obviously they have turned back around for whatever reason so the means I have suggested are only for the hard core protesters left in sutheps ranks BTW tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannons are non lethal force, by your twisting my suggestion around and stating "gassing people" and "gunning them down" either shows your complete ignorance or your extreme bias in this situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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