Scores of people injured in bomb attack during anti-government rally in Trat

[transam]

One thing is for sure, the rest of the world have seen the other side of the face that they think is the face of Land of Smiles..................

[Red Snake]

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Things are seriously getting out of hand. Something need to be done to bring peace before more people are killed or injured in these hate attacks. Both sides talk to help bring these attacked to a halt. Suthep hate speeches does not help matters with his popcorn man jokes. This attack could be revenge for the shooting of police this week. But innocent children being killed is too much. Sit down and talk work something out for the sake of the country.

And yet here you were just a few days ago actually advocating throwing grenades.

You don't know a dam_n thing about me. I don't kiss Suthep butt nor do I kiss the government butt. I do what is best for me and how I think. And, I think the Suthep is destroying the life of the common person for his own glory. People who have business with the government can not do business. People are threatening with harm if they go to work, Thais are having problem getting land purchases, simple acts as of passport or drive to work without the road being blocked. You can protest but not block the rights of others. As for the farmers they are too stupid to understand Suthep is the one who cause the mess for them with the stupid rice scheme. Suthep talks from both sides of his mouth in a Hilter style. Yes I hate that man and wish the worst for him. I would also like to see a fair selected group of people run the country until elections can be held. But not the Demo or Suthep involved at all. But the most important thing is everyone has rights and don't block my rights because you don't like something, I may get upset and grab a M79 and blow your ass away. This is where the violence is coming from at night, not the Reds like you want to think, it's the people on the streets. Wish up ggold and stop kissing Suthep butt all the time.

"I may get upset and grab a M79 and blow your ass away," you say, Red Snake. And, now, precisely that has happened. You must be proud.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/705096-cmpo-set-to-retake-sites-by-feb-19/page-2#entry7451564

I was talking about what other people are saying to themselves not me and you know that. So stop trying to twist people post. But it is interesting to see that you dig through everyone's of my post to try to twist it. I guess you have nothing else better to do.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Red Snake

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Trat?!?!

I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts.

Sad to say!

When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance,

Cheers

Tasteless posting.

Shame on you.

Attempting to beat political capital out of the death of innocent people.

That is sick.

As sick as the lone poster who 'liked' the report.

[zydeco]

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Things are seriously getting out of hand. Something need to be done to bring peace before more people are killed or injured in these hate attacks. Both sides talk to help bring these attacked to a halt. Suthep hate speeches does not help matters with his popcorn man jokes. This attack could be revenge for the shooting of police this week. But innocent children being killed is too much. Sit down and talk work something out for the sake of the country.

And yet here you were just a few days ago actually advocating throwing grenades.

You don't know a dam_n thing about me. I don't kiss Suthep butt nor do I kiss the government butt. I do what is best for me and how I think. And, I think the Suthep is destroying the life of the common person for his own glory. People who have business with the government can not do business. People are threatening with harm if they go to work, Thais are having problem getting land purchases, simple acts as of passport or drive to work without the road being blocked. You can protest but not block the rights of others. As for the farmers they are too stupid to understand Suthep is the one who cause the mess for them with the stupid rice scheme. Suthep talks from both sides of his mouth in a Hilter style. Yes I hate that man and wish the worst for him. I would also like to see a fair selected group of people run the country until elections can be held. But not the Demo or Suthep involved at all. But the most important thing is everyone has rights and don't block my rights because you don't like something, I may get upset and grab a M79 and blow your ass away. This is where the violence is coming from at night, not the Reds like you want to think, it's the people on the streets. Wish up ggold and stop kissing Suthep butt all the time.

"I may get upset and grab a M79 and blow your ass away," you say, Red Snake. And, now, precisely that has happened. You must be proud.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/705096-cmpo-set-to-retake-sites-by-feb-19/page-2#entry7451564

I was talking about what other people are saying to themselves not me and you know that. So stop trying to twist people post.

People can read your quote and follow the link to the thread. What you advocated is clear enough.

"I do what is best for me."

"Yes I hate that man and wish the worst for him."

"I may get upset and grab a M79 and blow your ass away."

[smedly]

Its amazing indeed now lets wait for the red supporters on Thai visa to claim it was self inflicted to gain sympathy and see how the UN rules on this one or that they remain silent and show their bias.

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We are saying it is a vicious cowardly attack. Is that straight enough?

Meanwhile, we just had 4 days of hilarity from PDRC stage about jolly Popcorn Killers. Shows which side of the divide have the almost complete monopoly on common sense.

Men with guns, men in black, popcorn warriers are not what we need.

Crocodile tears going to be hard to find on stage for Suthep after his 4 days of sick taunts.

I assume you know the difference between offence and defence - do I need to explain it

people have a given right to defend themselves

[Mot Leei]

Trat?!?!

I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts.

Sad to say!

When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance,

Cheers

You sound quite pleased this happened to the PDRC. You and your likes have some maladjusted thinking if you really believe this kind of violence is ok.

Just because they attacked someone who thinks and feels differently about politics doesnt make it ok to hurt them. Next you will be thinking its ok to kill someone if they dont follow the REDS.

If it is your way or no way then you are the beginnings of a Hitler regime.

My suggestion to kikoman and jollyman and other who feel this way is to seek emergency psycholigical medical treatment

Im sure the doctors can find a cure for RED BLINDNESS.

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Hey hey easy there brutus ...

If you organise a protest that holds a city hostage to the dictatorial opinion of a tiny minority, strong arm and intimidate people just doing their jobs into closing their businesses, causing the financial ruin of hundreds of tourism businesses, stop people from exercising their RIGHT to vote, chasing away investors, threatening people with violence (poptart mercenaries ... yes they are mercenaries) and showing off about it, then you are going to make a lot of people angry and provoke an equally violent response .... and if you hang around people who do this, then you MUST expect exactly this kind of thing to happen ... its not a good thing at all, but you must expect it.

I say, if you kick a dog often enough then you have no right to complain when it bites you.

I regret terribly that children have been hurt, but in all honesty what kind of parent takes a child into such a potentially violent situation? If Suthep really cared he'd send them home, but the coward wants his human shields.

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Whoa there. You talk a good talk but you completely twist the facts.

The protesters didnt hold this city hostage. In fact nobody was hostage to anything except traffic jams being diverted from the protest sites.

From what i understand business was booming near the protest sites. Only those who chose to close did. The protesters didnt harass businesses until just recently and now only Thaksin owned businesses are targeted.

Since the thai constitution states it is their right to hold these protests on public grounds and since all the gov bldgs are considered PUBLIC to the thai people then these protests were legalvwether you like them or not.

They didnt stop the gov workers from doing their job because the workers relocated to other places. The gov didnt stop working.

The protest did not chase the money from foreigners away. Tourism was a little lower than normal in bkk but outside of bkk was ok. YL starting this SOE is what chased investors and tousrists away. People were watchful and leery about coming here but the SOE made them sure not to come. It also made other gov deny exit for tourists here and caused airline travel insurances to br cancelled.

I cannot deny that Suthep has gotten a big head and has shown he has people to protect his supporters from attacks. But if you objectively at his reasons. It is the gov job to protect them during constitutionally approved demonstrations. They didnt supply police support sufficient to the protest numbers to do this and in turn pot shots were taken at them at various locations. If you were Suthep you would not be trustful if that happened to you and would want your own protection.

I dont agree with Suthep blocking the votes. But by doing that it gave time for criminal activity to come to light and for the public to become aware of these. This delay ultimately made people look a little closer at the gov and YLS dealings. Havent you ever thought about why YL was so quick to resign and call for fast elections and push the EC to hold then even without the numbers for people to vote for. Even when approved to delay YL insisted it happen immediately. ASAP. After that many controversial scandals have been announced. Look at the logic of it all.

Your last few comments are the kicker.

Most of these people are older and very young protesting now. They are not armed and not looking for a fight. The people who attacked them are the same as terrorists. They kill innocent peaceful people in the name of who or what they believe in. They do it indiscriminarely without regard for human rights. The only people who made it violent today were these terrorists. From what i understand these protests are more of a celebration than a rally to make people angry.

So they didnt go looking for violence. They went to have fun and hear about something they believe in. Violence came looking for them.

You really should follow all the news without bias to either side. Maybe then you can see all that is happening with better eyes.

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Did you miss all the stories about hotels laying off staff, tourism businesses closing, airlines cutting flights, people not able to get to their jobs, malls complaining of low traffic during high season? Choice?.... choosing to close or face the threats (vandalism, violence, theft) made by protestors (yes I have friends threatened by protestors) is NO choice ... its terrorism plain and simple

Tell me is AIS a thaksin owned company? No it isnt? Suthep order a hit on that? Yes he did.

This protest is not about democracy or about getting rid of PTP. Dictator Suthep saw an opportunity last year to install himself as dictator for life and he's going for it ... his ego will clearly not accept anything less. If you really believe he wants reforms in the interest of all Thais then you're delusional .... that simply doesn't fit his psychological profile

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[metisdead]

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[bigbamboo]

Its amazing indeed now lets wait for the red supporters on Thai visa to claim it was self inflicted to gain sympathy and see how the UN rules on this one or that they remain silent and show their bias.

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We are saying it is a vicious cowardly attack. Is that straight enough?

Meanwhile, we just had 4 days of hilarity from PDRC stage about jolly Popcorn Killers. Shows which side of the divide have the almost complete monopoly on common sense.

Men with guns, men in black, popcorn warriers are not what we need.

Crocodile tears going to be hard to find on stage for Suthep after his 4 days of sick taunts.

Crocodile tears are hard to find anywhere now. I think the Shins have the monopoly on them.

[Tatsujin]

This forum reflects the attitudes and thought processes in "Thailand" pretty well and goes to show that there is absolutely NO middle ground or compromise between pro and anti Govt supporters and this really does not bode well for the future of Thailand. He said, she said, they did, it was done before, 2010, all used to justify the violence that we see happening now from both sides.

Whilst I lean more towards the anti side of things, I don't agree with some of the actions taken or the words spoken by the "leaders" of the anti side of things. I also however don't agree with 99% of what is said from the pro side of things and I base that on past experiences that have proven countless times how untrustworthy they can be. Whilst I am no big fan of Suthep per se, I do see the need for major changes in ALL laws and systems, and that is just not going to happen whilst the PTP/Shinawatras have anything to do with things unless it benefits them directly.

Either way, violence is NOT the answer to any of this and it will never allow the changes that are really needed here. A fundamental shift in attitudes on ALL sides needs to happen before progress can be made, otherwise we are stuck in an endless cycle of protests, violence, lawsuits and accusations, with each side egging the other on to escalate things further.

At this point in time, I believe the best way forward would be for the monarchy to get involved more overtly/directly, to "tell" people to behave themselves, and then to oversee some fundamental, independent, public-led, referendum focused, grass root reforms before scheduling ANY more elections.

But what do I know, I'm just a guest.

[chooka]

It is one thing to support your preferred political party but quite another to support the muder of children as happened last night. Grown men can shoot the sh*t out of each other to prove how big their willy's are if they want to but to deliberately throw grenades and then open fire on innocent women and children is beyond politics. The reds have shown us they do not have any considerstion for the country just themselves and they have done it with tacit approval from yl, chalerm, tarit, thaksin and the police. These murders are on their heads, there are no excuses possible for what has happened, anyone supporting this or making excuses for it are simply demented individuals that are not capable of rational thinking. No children should be killed in the name of your prefered political party, the low life red scum from 2010 are back again.

I agree with most of what you say and I despise the Thaksin movement as much as anyone but my question is how do we know it was the reds? Are we assuming or has someone claimed responsibility for the attack?

[Robby nz]

We know who benefits if this attack brings a military coup a step closer.

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just when everyone though that the scum could not sink any lower we get this sh*t.

Address the point I make. This was a calculated attack. So who benefits if it causes the military to step in?

Of course you don't like the answer

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There is only one person who could possibly think he could benefit from a coup and that is Thaksin..

Then he would bring out his red thugs to fight the army (the reds have said as much) thereby creating a civil war.

That would be the cue, after a time, for the great peacemaker and savior to return (he thinks) to reunite the country.

There .is no way a coup and the resulting civil war could possibly benefit anyone else.

Last nights horrendous attack shows what it would be like if a coup took place with bands of armed raiders shooting at anything they saw as soft targets, including farang.

These armed raiders wouldn't even need to have any political affiliation they could just be doing it for some perverted sense of fun, or robbery.

The army at present cant control the killers in the south, consider what it would be like if the same thing were to happen all over the country.

Fortunately the top brass knows this and aren't buying it.

[NCFC]

Can we please stop posting show us your evidence? There is none due to a lack of any investigation by Police, who are led by the CMPO. Also I think red snakes posts are horrible. However lay off him at least his latest post is completely sensible and to the point regardless of politics!

Tommy, if posters don't have evidence then they need to lay off making unsubstantiated claims as to the perpetrators of this evil act.

If they have no evidence then prefix it by 'in my opinion' or some such construct. If they can't do that then better they don't post at all.

[Rimmer]

One post discussing moderation removed also a personal attack and a quoted reply

[rogerdee123]

We know who benefits if this attack brings a military coup a step closer.

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just when everyone though that the scum could not sink any lower we get this sh*t.

Address the point I make. This was a calculated attack. So who benefits if it causes the military to step in?

Of course you don't like the answer

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There is only one person who could possibly think he could benefit from a coup and that is Thaksin..

Then he would bring out his red thugs to fight the army (the reds have said as much) thereby creating a civil war.

That would be the cue, after a time, for the great peacemaker and savior to return (he thinks) to reunite the country.

There .is no way a coup and the resulting civil war could possibly benefit anyone else.

Last nights horrendous attack shows what it would be like if a coup took place with bands of armed raiders shooting at anything they saw as soft targets, including farang.

These armed raiders wouldn't even need to have any political affiliation they could just be doing it for some perverted sense of fun, or robbery.

The army at present cant control the killers in the south, consider what it would be like if the same thing were to happen all over the country.

Fortunately the top brass knows this and aren't buying it.

Yes I agree.

If there is a coup now .... Thaksin can say "the army threw her out" instead of "the people" .. and get all that misunderstood international sympathy same same as before.

[Yunla]

I am deeply sorrowful and upset when I read the partisan posts in this thread, by people trying to gain leverage for their favourite group of arrogant self-serving crims. The truth is nobody knows who did this and the waters are so murky and toxic in the politics here, the attackers could be anyone and I have doubts about the right people being caught too.

I think you should show respect for the dead and wounded by not using this sickening atrocity as political currency.

I will be returning to my regular socialscience bulletin-board for a while, as I find a lot of the comments here very callous and thoughtless. I wish great peace and joy on Thaivisa staff and members, and I continue to pray daily for peace and wisdom in this wonderful nation.

Love.

Yunla.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Yunla

[Barney R]

WHAT is happening here ? Stop trying to make cheap political points out of this tragedy . NOTHING and I mean Nothing can justify this attack on what was by all accounts a very peaceful meeting . If you have any moral fibre or humanity you should be outraged and condemn such an action outright instead of try to find reasons to justify this cowardly attack . CHILDREN for gods sake are getting killed .

[Sunderland]

The land of smiles, mai pen rai and everything will be OK is a big myth. Violence in Thailand is nothing new. People kick dogs for fun every day, yell at each other on a regular basis and their TV shows are full of shooting, cheating, lying, bitching and killing.

There are some wonderful people in Thailand, and I love living here. But for sure, there is more violence here than back home, although it's hardly peaceful there on a Friday or Saturday night. Different levels and reasons for violence.

[Lite Beer]

One dead, 34 injured from attacks at Trat's PDRC stage
By English News

BANGKOK, Feb 23 - A five year-old girl was killed while 34 persons were injured from last night's shootings and grenade attacks at anti-government People's Democratic Republic Committee (PDRC) rally stage in the eastern province of Trat's Khao Saming district.

The incident took place at 9.30pm on Saturday night as PDRC protesters were having political activites around Yingcharoen Market area.

Among the 34 wounded, six of them were seriously injured and one of them was a small child. The injured were admitted to hospitals in Trat and Rayong provinces, according to Public Heath Ministry's Dr Supan Sritanma, director-general of the Medical Services Department, and Dr Anurak Amornpetchsathaporn, director of emergency public health office.

Public Health Ministry also prepared a medical team for today's gathering of the pro-government United Front for Democracy (UDD) supporters in the northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima, as four thousands people are expected to attend. Pheu Thai Party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said his party expressed condolences for the incident and denounced such untoward acts in Trat.

Meanwhile, Trat's local authorities investigated the scene at Khao Saming district. An initial investigation indicated that gunmen drove two pick-up trucks into the market area where the stage was set up, threw bombs and commenced shootings. Shrapnel and bomb fragments were collected for evidence.
PDRC spokesman Akanat Promphan denounced the Trat attacks and expressed condolences for the loss from the incident.

Democrat Party's Ongart Klampaiboon also denounced the attacks and asked the caretaker government to find the ill-intentioned culprits. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-02-23

[Scamper]

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is closer to a terrorist attack than anything we have seen so far. People were peacefully gathered in a market. A truck pulled up, lobbed grenades and indiscriminately sprayed bullets into the crowd of defenseless civilians, including children. As is the case whenever such utterly unspeakable crimes against humanity are committed, one can only shake one's head and wonder how people could commit something as truly unspeakable as this. It has already claimed the life of a child, and four others precariously cling to life.

This rally contained a speaker from the Northeast who used to be a great advocate for Thaksin. He is now an advocate against him, as he says Thaksin poses a great threat to the judiciary.

Trat is a small province in the East that borders Cambodia. Cambodia has long been a refuge for UDD leaders on the run, and Cambodia is known to be sympathetic to the movement and to Thaksin. Cambodia also has a horrible human rights record. It is very hard to separate Trat's geographic location from this horrific event in one's mind.

At the end of the day, one has to ask oneself - what forces pose a greater threat to society - the ones calling for change, or the ones that are willing to inflict terror to prevent it ?

Edited February 23, 2014 by Scamper

[taony]

True, but even the people inside the rally site don't deserve to be shot up.

[uty6543]

Why has nobody from the government or the red shirt movement come forward and condemned last nights cowardly attack? Yingluck herself or at least a representative.

[chooka]

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is closer to a terrorist attack than anything we have seen so far. People were peacefully gathered in a market. A truck pulled up, lobbed grenades and indiscriminately sprayed bullets into the crowd of defenseless civilians, including children. As is the case whenever such utterly unspeakable crimes against humanity are committed, one can only shake one's head and wonder how people could commit something as truly unspeakable as this. It has already claimed the life of a child, and four others precariously cling to life.

This rally contained a speaker from the Northeast who used to be a great advocate for Thaksin. He is now an advocate against him, as he says Thaksin poses a great threat to the judiciary.

Trat is a small province in the East that borders Cambodia. Cambodia has long been a refuge for UDD leaders on the run, and Cambodia is known to be sympathetic to the movement and to Thaksin. Cambodia also has a horrible human rights record. It is very hard to separate Trat's geographic location from this horrific event in one's mind.

At the end of the day, one has to ask oneself - what forces pose a greater threat to society - the ones calling for change, or the ones that are willing to inflict terror to prevent it ?

the ones calling for change, or the ones that are willing to inflict terror to prevent it ?

Don't know how to answer that because they could be the same animal. No one has any idea who carried out this horrible act yet. I sure hope they get what is coming to them.

[dominique355]

All violence must be condemned.

From this common point we can look back at events leading up to this and some common things.

Firstly, children should not be anywhere near to political protests, and protest leaders should discourange parents taking children to politicial protests. Sadly protest leaders see children and old people and monks as their "human shields" and so do not discourage irresponsible parents from taking children. They then milk the media should a child get hurt or worst still killed.

Secondly, it is disgraceful for Suthep and the PDRC to be mocking the police and government claiming they have popcorn warriers defending them who will kill and shoot police. This outrageous behaviour will stop many police from being too close to and therefore protecting protestors and protests. This outrageous behaviour will incite violence from a core element of Thai society that is violent. We all know that some police are linked with criminals, as are the Army as are the Elite of Bangkok as are politicians of all parties (just like the PDRC have thier popcorn warriers). They all have the power to put their criminal friends into gear to go out and shoot and kill for them - the outrageous mocking and batiing by Suthep has perhaps (and maybe not) led to this attack. Everyone should hang their heads in shame, the person who should do so the most is Suthep, his speeches of the last days have led to this.

Thirdly, its is disgraceful to read people accuse red shirts of doing this. Without a single shred of evidence they feel they can justify their own hate by blaiming the people they hate for doing something like this. Many people have been wronged by the PDRC and their protests. The police, the government, many business owners, many companies, many powerful politicians, many individuals, many voters or would be voters expressing their desire for democracy - there is a very long list of millions of people who feel they have been wronged by the PDRC's antics.

Fourthly there is always the potential for people who want military intervention to do false flag attacks to support this.

Nobody knows the truth as it stands and nobody knows who is to blame, but everyone has to condemn violence and condemn those who openly speak of supporting violence or having armed people in thier midst ready to shoot and kill.

In my opinion all of that, of course.

Firstly: Go have a look at the place where this happened. It was in the middle of a village with many roadside stalls where people normally go and have a noodle soup. How do you know that this mother actually attended the rally and did not just happen to be there? (Nobody knows the truth.... blablabla, but ready to blame.)

Secondly: Mocking the police? Give me a break! What police? They haven't done anything in this whole demonstration season except mock themselves.

Thirdly : Trat people have a long history of being Democrats and voting for the Dems. They have come "en masse" to Bangkok to protest against the Shinawatra government. Nobody in Trat has been wronged by Suthep.

Fourthly: It takes quite a sick mind to blame the protesters for this attack. Don't the Red Shirts have a history of brutal violence all around the country? (Remember 2010!) As they say in USA: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are it IS a duck.

Firstly, my original post said ANYWHERE NEAR......

if the PDRC set up a protest site near me, I would go away, I would avoid it. I certainly would not allow my kids to be anywhere near it.

It is said the PDRC guards (maybe some popcorn warriers) were eating noodles at the shop, which is why it was targetted. Would you allow your children to be near to PDRC guards ?

Secondly, the police are doing their job with the constraints they have. They have been told by the Army repeatedly to not use force, not use tear gas. They have the courts holding their hands behind their backs. What do you expect the police to do when they are not allowed to be police by the other forces that control Thailand ?

Thirdly, not everyone in Trat supports the PDRC or Democrats. Why was their only 500 people at the protest and not tens of thousands. Tens of millions of people have been wronged by the PDRC in some way, shape or form.

Fourthly, the cycle of violence was started in 2008 by the PAD/Yellow shirts. They used violence as a means back then, which has started this cycle of violence and protests.

All in my opinion of course.

Gee LevelHaed, please go and have a look at the site. It's a small village near the border of Trat to Chantaburi, total population perhaps 2,000. The whole province has perhaps 200,000 people. It's a peaceful, rural area, no violence. How on earth could you get tens of thousands of people together on a "normal" Saturday evening? Get real! But anyway, what has the number of rally goers got to do with this unprovoked terrorist attack?

Please get some factual background info before posting such nonsense.

The police is doing their job? Seriously? Have you ever been in Thailand?

I don't quite get your fourthly: Do you mean to say the 2008 events justify this? Or does any other event?

I respect an opinion, as long as it is based on facts. Yours isn't.

[FredNL]

Foreign newspapers, websites and news stations are reporting 3 dead and 41 wounded.

Are they having the right news and is the news in Thailand censored?

[mrtoad]

Why has nobody from the government or the red shirt movement come forward and condemned last nights cowardly attack? Yingluck herself or at least a representative.

Probably gone shopping, and Chalerm is still sleeping if the excess of Saturday night.

[Gweiloman]

This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context.

Cause Taksin, effect wounded and death.. just like before.

I hope that is clear enough for you.

It is so painful having to read the junk you post among other more insightful posters.

In your opinion!

No, in the opinion of any objective, non-prejudiced or biased human being.

[phycokiller]

who needs vote buying when physical intimidation is so much easier, you cant have a democracy when you have no police, and a tax collector in a police uniform is not a policeman

[MGP]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

Here is the Facebook of the "artist" https://www.facebook.com/maneehaschair

[wave]

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is closer to a terrorist attack than anything we have seen so far. People were peacefully gathered in a market. A truck pulled up, lobbed grenades and indiscriminately sprayed bullets into the crowd of defenseless civilians, including children. As is the case whenever such utterly unspeakable crimes against humanity are committed, one can only shake one's head and wonder how people could commit something as truly unspeakable as this. It has already claimed the life of a child, and four others precariously cling to life.

This rally contained a speaker from the Northeast who used to be a great advocate for Thaksin. He is now an advocate against him, as he says Thaksin poses a great threat to the judiciary.

Trat is a small province in the East that borders Cambodia. Cambodia has long been a refuge for UDD leaders on the run, and Cambodia is known to be sympathetic to the movement and to Thaksin. Cambodia also has a horrible human rights record. It is very hard to separate Trat's geographic location from this horrific event in one's mind.

Wow....So you are implying this may have been a Thaksin sponsored attack with Cambodian support.

And what evidence do you have for this?

Would that be the truckloads of Cambodian fighters that the Thai Navy claimed had entered the country?

So for some balance here lets not forget the large amount of Thai Army and Navy positions located in Trat due to it's location to the border and not forgetting their tacit support of Suthep.

At the end of the day, one has to ask oneself - what forces pose a greater threat to society - the ones calling for change, or the ones that are willing to inflict terror to prevent it ?

This statement is particularly odious.

To imply that the PDRC are non violent victims is naive at best.

They are equally willing to support violence and terror to further their aims.

[GreenSnapper]

The land of smiles, mai pen rai and everything will be OK is a big myth. Violence in Thailand is nothing new. People kick dogs for fun every day, yell at each other on a regular basis and their TV shows are full of shooting, cheating, lying, bitching and killing.

There are some wonderful people in Thailand, and I love living here. But for sure, there is more violence here than back home, although it's hardly peaceful there on a Friday or Saturday night. Different levels and reasons for violence.

Exactly.

This country is very immature and has very limited means of conflict solution other than violence.

People getting killed over a 100 Baht taxi fare, women dismembering their boyfriends, the constant shouting and throwing things in TV soap operas, the coward revenge cases for "losing face", the thousands killed in the South, some of the highest murder rate in the world and so on.

It will take generations until Thailand would resemble a civil democratic state.