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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

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Sunisa where are you? Sunisa are you OK?

She's looking for Chalerm, he's not made any announcements in 24 hours.

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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

What an EARTH are you on about... There is NOTHING in that video about going to a safe house or rape.. Jesus H

All they are asking is to get in the van, she says No, that would be scary. she then asks to call Deputy Bangkok Governor Pol Gen Asawin Kwanmuang gets told that they don't have his number.. she then says if your taking me back to my car we can walk.. he agrees..

ps: your experience and hers are VERY different. Every one who needed to know knew where she was.. she had a newspaper camera crew with her.

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No no no no no.
Free English lesson: Detained is a word we reserve specifically for the acts of government officials.

What you've described here is called kidnapping / false imprisonment / terrorism. Pick your felony.



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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself

No one was kidnapped here, just stopped from provoking a reaction and escorted to her car.

Sunisa, who as everyone knows is on Thaksin's payroll, walked into an area that has been under attack, quite possibly by other Thaksin employees, in order to provoke a reaction. That she 'booked' a photographer to record the whole thing makes it pretty clear to anyone, without red-tinted glasses, that this was a publicity stunt. Which is what we should expect from a PR-lady.

I'm sure that if Abhisit walked into the middle of a red-shirt demonstration in Chiang Mai, accompanied by a photographer to record the reaction, and was bundled away to stop him being attacked, you wouldn't be mock-scandalized about his 'kidnapping'. Although I doubt very much that the red-shirts would simply show him to his car.

So no, I do not feel ashamed of myself, but perhaps you should at least feel a little stupid for swallowing so much PR-bullshit in one go.

If you are trying to intimidate me or other posters who contradict your political views, by silly name-calling, you'll have to try a lot harder than that.

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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

You can't speak Thai!

They are talking about getting her car, which is parked at Paragon, presumably so she can get out of there safely. They are asking her if she wants to or not saying they will escort here in their van (rot tu) because it would be dangerous for her to walk alone. She declines saying she is afraid to go in their van because it is a closed vehicle (actually don't blame her though). Then she wants to talk to someone named Asawan(?), but he won't be there soon, so she wants to borrow their phone to call, they say they don't have the number. All the conversation is rather polite, but clearly she is a bit tense. There are probably other people walking by, someone else is telling them to move on.

And you go talking about rape, throwing up and calling others names.

Honestly I do hope you get over your stomach disorder, but I think it is caused by your own problems. It's something you can control yourself.

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Come on, tempers and tensions are running high, at worst this is just a publicity own goal for the PDRC, she wasn't roughed up, she was released after an hour, the guards were over zealous and who can blame them in this climate.

Right on! I mean after all she wasn't roughed up, she was just kidnapped against her will for a couple hours while she was shopping, there is certainly nothing wrong with that, is there rolleyes.gif I see that sutheps fascist mentality has permeated those farangs here who support him, how sad sad.png Suthep and his thugs are getting more and more reminiscent of Germany ala 1932 each and every day thumbsup.gif

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Come on, tempers and tensions are running high, at worst this is just a publicity own goal for the PDRC, she wasn't roughed up, she was released after an hour, the guards were over zealous and who can blame them in this climate.

Right on! I mean after all she wasn't roughed up, she was just kidnapped against her will for a couple hours while she was shopping, there is certainly nothing wrong with that, is there rolleyes.gif I see that sutheps fascist mentality has permeated those farangs here who support him, how sad sad.png Suthep and his thugs are getting more and more reminiscent of Germany ala 1932 each and every day thumbsup.gif

Less than an hour and she wasn't kidnapped. She was temporarily detained.

By some accounts She also asked the news cameras to be there at that time and riled up the anti government crowd before the protest guards got her out. Did you watch the videos?

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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

What an EARTH are you on about... There is NOTHING in that video about going to a safe house or rape.. Jesus H

All they are asking is to get in the van, she says No, that would be scary. she then asks to call Deputy Bangkok Governor Pol Gen Asawin Kwanmuang gets told that they don't have his number.. she then says if your taking me back to my car we can walk.. he agrees..

ps: your experience and hers are VERY different. Every one who needed to know knew where she was.. she had a newspaper camera crew with her.

Really - maybe you should listen to her describing the ordeal.

She was of course crying because they where so nice to her.....she was taken against her will after leaving the clinic.

You are leaving out the important parts - or what would you think as a woman who has just been manhandled and intimidated - of a man telling you that they would take you away into a minibus with tinted windows - and "that "older brother" has not had a woman in quite some time now" - did you think he would mean that she should cook him a meal inside the bus?????

Camera team with her? Sure yes what is the source of that propaganda??

She was in a clinic - People who where alerted by the commotion of her being taken away outside the clinic where told by the guards they are not allowed to film or take pics - there was about 20 of those "guards" - to snatch a small girl - real heros!!

She was then taken ALONE behind the stage and told to hand over her car keys and tell them the location of her car and password to her phone they had taken from her! All of which she refused.

PDRC guards and an undercover police man took pictures of her being held and "interrogated".

She is not the first person being snatched by these thugs - this is happening on a daily basis - so go on defending these criminals until one day they take somebody you know!

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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

If you read the Bangkok Post you will find that a PDRC spokesman claims that Miss Sunisa was in cahoots with a photographer. That may not be true?

It remains a disturbing, although not entirely surprising development that the PDRC "guards" seem to have taken on themselves the right to detain, question and frighten passers by!

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Yes I said she was shopping, buying face-whitener or other junk - as an example of things she might have been browsing. Maybe she was going to several other shops too far away from the protest, and she didn't feel she should avoid the shops near the protest as she felt it wasn't a risk in a public shopping area.

I'm sure she's Thaksin supporter and I'm sure she isn't angelic grace etc. My comment wasn't about her as a person, it was about the fact that people should not be grabbed while out shopping, or live in fear of being grabbed, or held for an hour against their will. I condemn this act, and I would condemn it just as loudly if it was a PDRC member being abducted against their will for an hour. It is not how most people want to live in society, they want to relax and go shopping without fear. And that applies to everyone, it is a human right.

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AAh ok, your comment was not about her as a person... I thought we were talking about Sunisa's actions. At least I was when you commented on my post. Remember? And you know that, but you are turning it into a "people should not live in fear post". As if I ever implied that it is ok if people live in fear. It just confirms that you are a drama queen.

You replied to my same post twice, and in neither of your replies did you enter any points countering my points. Infact you just tried to reignite the issues I have already answered multiple times, issues which in turn you failed to counter adequately the first time round. Calling people "drama queens" and "kids" is also insulting, especially when those people are putting serious points to you for you to counter - which you have failed to do, and on a most herculean level too.

Re; "now you are turning it into 'people should not live in fear' post" that is nonsense - read the very first post I entered in this thread - it was all about human rights and how I condemn the act of seizing defenceless women shoppers because it traumatises them, so this was actually my original point and not something I'm "turning it into."

I refuse on principle to join your low level of name-calling, "drama queens, kids, childish" etc. which you have said to me. However I will make the criticism of you that you dance around the issue a lot, and fail to tackle the points I raise. My main two points are that nobody should be abducted while out shopping in public, and that this is a crime and a breach of the most basic Human Rights. If they are abducted by mob leaders to protect them from the violent mob, then this speaks volumes about the mob itself, and not the victim. My second point is that no woman would risk being abducted or beaten to score political currency, and again this point remains uncountered by your good self.

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The fact, if you read the BP article, that a photographer was forewarned of LT Sunisa's 'performance' does suggest that this was a pre-planned publicity stunt.

Far from it being a kidnapping, it seems that Lt Sunisa should have thanked the PDRC guards for ensuring her safe departure from an area she had entered to try to provoke a reaction.

Primitive people like you make me sick to the stomach! Are you condoning kidnapping? the threat of violence? and the threat of rape??!! If you do then please join the so called PDRC guards - you will be in good company there!

What should she have thanked them for for intimidating her - threatening her with "making her disappear' -"bad things that could happen to her" "threatening her with kidnapping and rape".

I have been in a similar and even more dangerous situation before in my life being kidnapped without anybody knowing my whereabouts - I know how she felt! As the victim one does not know what will happen once one is taken - the torture is simply psychological one does not know if one gets out of this situation alive and what they are going to do one once they are in a safe place without any witnesses - and it leaves scars for live!

Do you speak Thai ? Yes? Then watch the video - the threat of her being taken away to a "safe house" and rape these disgusting animals are suggesting is terrifying to any human being!

Repeating stupid assumptions from the yellow mouth piece Bangkok Post!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

What an EARTH are you on about... There is NOTHING in that video about going to a safe house or rape.. Jesus H

All they are asking is to get in the van, she says No, that would be scary. she then asks to call Deputy Bangkok Governor Pol Gen Asawin Kwanmuang gets told that they don't have his number.. she then says if your taking me back to my car we can walk.. he agrees..

ps: your experience and hers are VERY different. Every one who needed to know knew where she was.. she had a newspaper camera crew with her.

Really - maybe you should listen to her describing the ordeal.

She was of course crying because they where so nice to her.....she was taken against her will after leaving the clinic.

You are leaving out the important parts - or what would you think as a woman who has just been manhandled and intimidated - of a man telling you that they would take you away into a minibus with tinted windows - and "that "older brother" has not had a woman in quite some time now" - did you think he would mean that she should cook him a meal inside the bus?????

Camera team with her? Sure yes what is the source of that propaganda??

She was in a clinic - People who where alerted by the commotion of her being taken away outside the clinic where told by the guards they are not allowed to film or take pics - there was about 20 of those "guards" - to snatch a small girl - real heros!!

She was then taken ALONE behind the stage and told to hand over her car keys and tell them the location of her car and password to her phone they had taken from her! All of which she refused.

PDRC guards and an undercover police man took pictures of her being held and "interrogated".

She is not the first person being snatched by these thugs - this is happening on a daily basis - so go on defending these criminals until one day they take somebody you know!

How can I listen to her describing the ordeal if you don't provide a link?

Were in my video link did they say " "that "older brother" has not had a woman in quite some time now"

Where and when was she forced into said Van? She wasn't. She said no. They walked her back to her car!

" or what would you think as a woman who has just been manhandled and intimidated - "

It shouldn't of happened. But I don't think we have the whole story as yet.

She was NOT alone. She had people taking pictures etc.

People are being kidnapped on a daily basis ... get real!

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Looks like the second report is more realistic than the first.

What it amounts to is that the guards got her out of out of harms way and took her to a safe place.

Mind you she should not have been hassled in the first place.

But then neither should the singer in CM.

The hate is really out of control on this country and on this board, as we see in previous posts on this subject.

This board is a microcosm of what is happening. Anger followed by defensiveness as my/yours/his/hers position is challenged. No one is really using their mind, just following base emotions......until that sad but predictable outcome.....somebody gets hurt.

You forget where we live... When in Rome.

This insanity started with one family and should end with that family.

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Come on, tempers and tensions are running high, at worst this is just a publicity own goal for the PDRC, she wasn't roughed up, she was released after an hour, the guards were over zealous and who can blame them in this climate.


Right on! I mean after all she wasn't roughed up, she was just kidnapped against her will for a couple hours while she was shopping, there is certainly nothing wrong with that, is there rolleyes.gif.pagespeed.ce.hZ59UWKk-s.gif I see that sutheps fascist mentality has permeated those farangs here who support him, how sad xsad.png.pagespeed.ic.5zxzyGiJz0.png Suthep and his thugs are getting more and more reminiscent of Germany ala 1932 each and every day thumbsup.gif.pagespeed.ce.dtxKiAJ9C7.gif
Less than an hour and she wasn't kidnapped. She was temporarily detained.

By some accounts She also asked the news cameras to be there at that time and riled up the anti government crowd before the protest guards got her out. Did you watch the videos?

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"she wasn't kidnapped, she was temporarily detained" cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif Are you really that clueless rolleyes.gif My friend, when the police take you in for questioning you are temporarily detained, when an armed civilian mob detains you against your will it is called kidnapping!

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Freedom of speech is a basic human right, yet that right can be curtailed in certain circumstances. The old test of calling out "Fire!" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire would be an example because your freedom to speak is likely to cause public disorder.

Freedom of movement is a similar basic human right in that we are allowed to go about our lawful business in public areas without hindrance. What we are not allowed to do is to use that right to incite public disorder.

I would agree that Sunisa was foolish or was inciting disorder if she had gone out to the protest site and stood there chanting anti-protestor slogans or acting in some way to cause public outrage, even if it was to protesters.

But I haven't seen any suggestions that she was behaving improperly. Merely that she was about her normal business just as any other normal Thai citizen would do. She behaved well within her rights as a citizen, her presence on the streets is not enough to cause public disorder. If protesters wish to behave disorderly just because they see her, means the problem lies with the protesters and not with the citizen.

We are not yet at the stage, hopefully, where parts of the country are no-go areas depending on one's political beliefs. And protesters have no right to claim an area as their territory. That is a step towards anarchy.

Very well stated sir thumbsup.gif This is very clear to any foreign journalist or outside observer, its unfortunate that thai visa is overrun with these clueless suthep loving farangs who seem to wish for civil war here in the Kingdom. Suthep and his thugs have been given more latitude than they would receive in virtually any other nation on earth, but it is time for the government to finally step in and clean up this mess wai2.gif

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Less than an hour and she wasn't kidnapped. She was temporarily detained.

By some accounts She also asked the news cameras to be there at that time and riled up the anti government crowd before the protest guards got her out. Did you watch the videos?

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"she wasn't kidnapped, she was temporarily detained" cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif Are you really that clueless rolleyes.gif My friend, when the police take you in for questioning you are temporarily detained, when an armed civilian mob detains you against your will it is called kidnapping!

Don't fall for the spinners. They will try to spin everything so that they won't have to face the truth, which is that they support an antidemocratic minority movement that shoots at and kidnaps people at their will with their own private militia. If the red shirts "temporarily detained" them, they would be kicking and screaming kidnapping. As it stands, they're simply brainwashed into believing the double standard Suthep speeches.

Deep down however, they know they are wrong.

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Less than an hour and she wasn't kidnapped. She was temporarily detained.

By some accounts She also asked the news cameras to be there at that time and riled up the anti government crowd before the protest guards got her out. Did you watch the videos?

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"she wasn't kidnapped, she was temporarily detained" cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif Are you really that clueless rolleyes.gif My friend, when the police take you in for questioning you are temporarily detained, when an armed civilian mob detains you against your will it is called kidnapping!

Don't fall for the spinners. They will try to spin everything so that they won't have to face the truth, which is that they support an antidemocratic minority movement that shoots at and kidnaps people at their will with their own private militia. If the red shirts "temporarily detained" them, they would be kicking and screaming kidnapping. As it stands, they're simply brainwashed into believing the double standard Suthep speeches.

Deep down however, they know they are wrong.

Just had a quick look deep down, I'm fine thanks.

Cheers.

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It would seem it took a while to make a tape on order rolleyes.gif

You've been conspicuous by your absence on this thread, rubl

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/710518-footage-of-thai-govt-spokeswoman-sunisas-capture-released/

I would have thought you would want to share your thoughts that this tape is fake, with everybody, or are you just shy?

Unlike you I have other activities to attend to as well it would seem.

Note that I wrote my post yesterday early evening and the new topic is from this morning. Interesting some posted a clip here yesterday and now we have "Today the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) released the footage from a CCTV mounted close to the clinic"

Let's close this here and move over.

Cheers

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It would seem it took a while to make a tape on order rolleyes.gif

You've been conspicuous by your absence on this thread, rubl

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/710518-footage-of-thai-govt-spokeswoman-sunisas-capture-released/

I would have thought you would want to share your thoughts that this tape is fake, with everybody, or are you just shy?

I also think that it is either staged, or faked.

Ah, someone else with no shame.

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It would seem it took a while to make a tape on order rolleyes.gif

You've been conspicuous by your absence on this thread, rubl

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/710518-footage-of-thai-govt-spokeswoman-sunisas-capture-released/

I would have thought you would want to share your thoughts that this tape is fake, with everybody, or are you just shy?

Unlike you I have other activities to attend to as well it would seem.

Note that I wrote my post yesterday early evening and the new topic is from this morning. Interesting some posted a clip here yesterday and now we have "Today the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) released the footage from a CCTV mounted close to the clinic"

Let's close this here and move over.

Cheers

Good to see you're still standing by your (questionable) standards.

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It would seem it took a while to make a tape on order rolleyes.gif

You've been conspicuous by your absence on this thread, rubl

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/710518-footage-of-thai-govt-spokeswoman-sunisas-capture-released/

I would have thought you would want to share your thoughts that this tape is fake, with everybody, or are you just shy?

Unlike you I have other activities to attend to as well it would seem.

Note that I wrote my post yesterday early evening and the new topic is from this morning. Interesting some posted a clip here yesterday and now we have "Today the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) released the footage from a CCTV mounted close to the clinic"

Let's close this here and move over.

Cheers

Good to see you're still standing by your (questionable) standards.

you're too kind, my dear chap.

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