PCAD guard arrested, identified as Thai Navy officer

[Soi Sauce]

Michael Yon is reporting on his FB page that a credible source spoke to him yesterday and said that the Red Brigade/Anti PDRC are going to go on a killing spree aiming to kill as many as 500, using "bombing" quoting this as a magic number that would avoid an all out civil war, if Yingluck doesn't step down tomorow.

He also states that it will not come in the form of ground attacks, so that leaves either several VBIED's or using aircraft to drop ordnance onto protestors.. quite frankly I find what he reported quite disturbing and digusting, and it's a sure fire way to stir up the entire situation..

I agree the people need protecting, but it's simple, go home and you'll not risk being blown to bits,if that attack has any credibility, then Suthep needs to get everyone off the streets now, empty streets = No high impact attacks or casualties.

Use other means to remove Yingluck, her time is about done as it is, but IF people are stupid enough not to heed such warning s and a huge los of life happens as a result, well sorry, I'm all out of symapthy and you let Karma happen!!

Michael Yon... .....credible source ..

he also posts that "he" has meetings with Abhisit - these meetings are designed by the Democrats to spread propaganda using "journalists" who are sympathetic to their cause - all he posts are the rumors and propaganda that Suthep wants him to post - hardly a source for reliable news!

Watch this about Michael Yon...Suthep melts down...priceless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI4Pu0olT34&feature=player_detailpage

But don't the reds love a Hitler wannabee?

Wrong comparism.

[Thaddeus]

Another non-violent protester ??? Except from the two Glock's and ammunition.

Another fine piece of logic.

He is in the Armed Forces, he has a gun, therefore he is violent.

Forget your predjudices and political inclinations for one moment, stop trying to be smart or witty and focus on the important point. A serving member of the Royal Thai Navy has been clearly identified as providing armed security for the protesters. I am not going to speculate on whether the two hand guns and amunition found on him were issued by the RTN. The point is that there is now clear evidence the military are backing Suthep. Their claims of being strictly neutral have been exposed as a sham. That is pouring gasoline onto a smouldering fire!

I don't try to be smart and witty, I was born with the ability and requires no extra effort at all.

Ok, let's focus on the important point, the protesters need protection, the organisation who are supposed to protect civilians (the police) are not doing what they swore an oath to do (with crossed fingers, hoping that they would never have to do something like their job specification)

Go back to the flood crisis a few years back, who helped civilians then, the Armed forces, the ones who are loyal to King, Country and People.

What did the police do, tried to charge people money for help.

If ordinary people need help, the armed forces are there no matter what, the police are there if you pay them.

Edited February 26, 2014 by Thaddeus

[Crushdepth]

Another non-violent protester ??? Except from the two Glock's and ammunition.

Another fine piece of logic.

He is in the Armed Forces, he has a gun, therefore he is violent.

Forget your predjudices and political inclinations for one moment, stop trying to be smart or witty and focus on the important point. A serving member of the Royal Thai Navy has been clearly identified as providing armed security for the protesters. I am not going to speculate on whether the two hand guns and amunition found on him were issued by the RTN. The point is that there is now clear evidence the military are backing Suthep. Their claims of being strictly neutral have been exposed as a sham. That is pouring gasoline onto a smouldering fire!

Maybe he was part a cunning plan to infiltrate the protesters and arrest Suthep.

Or maybe not. I think its a mistake to view 'the' military as a united block that is supporting or undermining the government. Some parts are, some parts aren't, and some parts are trying to stay out of the mess. Soldiers do moonlight for extra income.

[Thaddeus]

If the police can't protect the people, somebody has to do the job.

Urmm...the police can't show up because the PCAD thugs attack them if they come any where near them!

Could this be the reason the police can't protect them?

No.

[Smokemachine]

I personally don't support violence no matter which side. People need to see the reasons of having arms.

One side is armed and randomly attack the innocent people.

One side is armed to protect/counter back any attack to protect the innocent people.

See the difference.

[Trembly]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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[ponchi]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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55555 i think the red shirt soon eat the more popcorn !!

[smedly]

If the police can't protect the people, somebody has to do the job.

110% correct, nothing in this news story is any surprise - the police stand by while they are attacked every night, children are blown up and murdered, at least a month ago I predicted that the Thai military would be active in protecting protestors

considering the bias of the Police and the DSI this seems to be a very needed shield to a generally peaceful PDRC, the only time violence has erupted is when they are attacked - they have every right to defend themselves or be defended

not much more to discuss here

[Bkkbound]

No doubt he has now been released and back on guard duty,

[smedly]

No doubt he has now been released and back on guard duty,

yes along with other military patrolling the city - you see anything wrong with this - does it meet your expectations - is it satisfactory that the army are now having to do what the police refuse to do

it's about time

An extra 117 military checkpoints will be set up to cover risk spots around anti-government rally sites and other key areas in Bangkok in the wake of escalating protest-related violence.

Maj Gen Wara Boonyasit, commander of the 1st Division, King's Guard, announced the plan on Wednesday during a meeting with senior military officers.

The meeting was called to discuss adjusting security measures after unidentified gunmen carried out a series of late-night gun and grenade attacks on People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) protest sites in Lumpini, Ratchaprasong and Pathumwan on Monday and Tuesday.

The gunmen also exchanged gunfire with soldiers deployed to provide security around PDRC rallies.

The extra 117 military security and surveillance checkpoints, in addition to the existing 29, will be set up around every rally site, parts of the city deemed vulnerable to violent attacks and crowded areas, Maj Gen Wara said.

He said soldiers will perform their duties to provide safety for all sides — the authorities, the general public and the protesters.

Routes for military patrols would be adjusted to suit each area and the frequency of patrols would be increased in an attempt to prevent and suppress violence as much as possible, he added.

[JRSoul]

*Those of you with western military backgrounds may have noticed that in quite a few eastern countries the lines between services are a bit more blurred than they are in the west; naturally a bit more 'purple', if you will.

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I am led to believe that purple is the colour that in Thailand is associated with "alternate lifestyle" not approved of in military circles.

[Bkkbound]

No doubt he has now been released and back on guard duty,

yes along with other military patrolling the city - you see anything wrong with this - does it meet your expectations - is it satisfactory that the army are now having to do what the police refuse to do

it's about time

An extra 117 military checkpoints will be set up to cover risk spots around anti-government rally sites and other key areas in Bangkok in the wake of escalating protest-related violence.

Maj Gen Wara Boonyasit, commander of the 1st Division, King's Guard, announced the plan on Wednesday during a meeting with senior military officers.

The meeting was called to discuss adjusting security measures after unidentified gunmen carried out a series of late-night gun and grenade attacks on People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) protest sites in Lumpini, Ratchaprasong and Pathumwan on Monday and Tuesday.

The gunmen also exchanged gunfire with soldiers deployed to provide security around PDRC rallies.

The extra 117 military security and surveillance checkpoints, in addition to the existing 29, will be set up around every rally site, parts of the city deemed vulnerable to violent attacks and crowded areas, Maj Gen Wara said.

He said soldiers will perform their duties to provide safety for all sides — the authorities, the general public and the protesters.

Routes for military patrols would be adjusted to suit each area and the frequency of patrols would be increased in an attempt to prevent and suppress violence as much as possible, he added.

Its been long overdue, but welcome all the same, I hope they have a better plan to deal with the Shins than in 2006.

[Crushdepth]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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Are they attacking people on a daily basis, or did they play a defensive role?

[bunnaag]

Cambodian Navy?

they have a lake

[webfact]

Navy Officers 'Admit' Serving As PCAD Armed Guards
By Khaosod English



BANGKOK: -- Two arrested Royal Thai Navy officers have confessed to serving as security guards for anti-government protests, police say.

Petty Officer First Class Sompong Thaennark and Petty Officer First Class Preecha Moonpuak were arrested at a police checkpoint in Bukkalo district of Bangkok today after the officers searched them and found two Glock handguns, along with a number of ammunition for handguns and rifles.

An officer said the police grew suspicious of the pair when their pick-up truck approached the checkpoint and the officers quickly realised the vehicle had no license plate.

The search also turned up ID cards for security teams of the People′s Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD) and separate ID cards of the Navy Special Warfare Command - commonly known as the Thai Navy SEALs.

The police said both 1PO Sompong and 1PO Preecha are active serviceman.

Upon the arrest, the pair claimed they were based in Narathiwat province and were traveling to their headquarters in Chonburi province via Bangkok. However, the police refused to believe their tale and escorted the suspects to the police station.

Both suspects initially refused to provide any testimony to the police, a police officer said, but after 3 hours of interrogation 1PO Sompong and 1PO Preecha reportedly admitted they were hired by PCAD to serve as their armed guards.

Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat Nongharnpitak, deputy commander of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police, later arrived at Bukkalo Police Station and talked with the suspects. Speaking to reporters afterward, Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat said 1PO Sompong and 1PO Preecha claimed they were hired to protect PCAD leaders at the rally site near Lumpini Park.

Asked whether the police would press charge against the pair, Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat said although the suspects′ firearms were properly issued by the navy, it is an offence to carry weapons into areas under the State of Emergency without due cause.

He said the Royal Thai Navy has been contacted to retrieve 1PO Sompong and 1PO Preecha from the police custody.

Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat also expressed sympathy for the arrested suspects, as they would have to face legal prosecution. "One of them has a 4-year old child, and the other has a 9-year old child," the officer said.

"The protest leaders must have felt frightened, so they felt the need to hire well-armed and professional men like these to provide some protection," Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat said, "I can only say that I really feel sorry for the [suspects]".

The Thai navy has been linked to the ongoing political crisis in recent days due to reports that some SEALs members have joined the ranks of PCAD guards.

However, the Royal Thai Navy has repeatedly denied the allegation that its force is involved in the current anti-government protests in any way.

Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNU16UXdOak15TkE9PQ==


-- Khaosod English 2014-02-27

[edwinchester]

That is a Navy Seal ID?

[kikoman]

What's the big fuss? We already know the military have been protecting the protestors because of the cowardly daily bomb and gun attacks. Police want to be tools of the Shinawatras and do nothing? No problem, the Navy will do their job.

It is never the job of the military, to attack citizens of it own country, the military's job is to protect "all"

citizens in any country deemed to be civilized!

Cheers

[Yunla]

Using firearms in built-up public areas can result in stray bullets and deaths of innocent civilians. The right to bear arms in self-defence largely covers two areas - home defense and isolated cases of one-on-one violence such as attempted rape or assault, where there is no public crowd wandering around who can get tagged with a stray bullet.

I attended some Anti-Nazi protests in the 1980s and 90s, where we were all unarmed despite the real violence brought against us by the neonazis. I felt we won the moral argument by being unarmed, and if I could go back and do it again unarmed I would, as opposed to spraying bullets around in a public place. We were armed with leaflets and information relating to the corrupt and sickening acts and philosophies of some of the neonazi leaders, these leaflets were given out to the public and were very powerful as an act of information warfare. As mentioned before we also held the moral high-ground by not fighting back when the fash arrived armed with knives and bars etc. Obviously different nation and situation, but the principle is the same - imho.

Edited February 27, 2014 by Yunla

[kikoman]

This arrest has been an eyeopener!

As just yesterday the top military commander in a source not allowed to be mention on the forum, Stated the growing division over the issue of the unrest in Thailand and the growing opposition of the Police Department and in the military that are pro government that the country's (rumoured involvement) military are supporting PDRC and attacking the police!

These Seals need to be given a Dishonorable discharge from the service and sent to prison!

[chooka]

Another non-violent protester ??? Except from the two Glock's and ammunition.

Another fine piece of logic.

He is in the Armed Forces, he has a gun, therefore he is violent.

Is he moonlighting or on duty?

[Trembly]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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55555 i think the red shirt soon eat the more popcorn !!

So please don't insult everyone's intelligence by claiming one moment that there are no armed people among the PDRC and then celebrating the popcorn vendors the next.

There is nothing wrong with self-defence. Why lie when the truth will do?

To paraphrase the words of a certain general "the stupid and lazy are of little concern, but the stupid and industrious are a grave danger to their own side ...."

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Edited February 27, 2014 by Trembly

[Trembly]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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Are they attacking people on a daily basis, or did they play a defensive role?

See post #112

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[Trembly]

*Those of you with western military backgrounds may have noticed that in quite a few eastern countries the lines between services are a bit more blurred than they are in the west; naturally a bit more 'purple', if you will.

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I am led to believe that purple is the colour that in Thailand is associated with "alternate lifestyle" not approved of in military circles.

Never heard of that one.

Purple is military short-hand for when army (green), navy (dark blue) and Air Force (light blue) operate or simply exist in a way that makes it difficult to separate them all from each other.

Green + blue = purple.

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[casualbiker]

i think is a lie from the government.

we are not arm people !!

nobody

What about the popcorn vendors? Were they throwing popcorn at Ko-Tee's boys at Laksi?

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In reality we have seen the "popcorn " people once at Laksi. At Pan fah bridge there are 2 or 3 pictures of armed men. Strange there weren't more considering the amount of cameras around.

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Is he moonlighting or on duty?

That's also what I'd like to know.

I don't have any problem with active service, OFF DUTY military personnel providing security services, assuming their service has no bar against that. Lord knows, the police certainly don't seem to be performing their duty to keep the peace and prevent violence at the protest sites.

But if military guys are providing armed security for private groups while on duty/work time, that's an entirely different matter and certainly not appropriate -- regardless of one's political persuasions.

Although, this IS Thailand, and you get the impression that the police themselves aren't immune to these same kinds of extracurricular activities in a variety of ways.

[casualbiker]

That is a Navy Seal ID?

That ID is for the special warfare department .. question is are all the sailors who work there Navy Seals ..??

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[casualbiker]

That is a Navy Seal ID?

That ID is for the special warfare department .. question is are all the sailors who work there Navy Seals ..??

Also it seems that it was first issued either 6 years or 16 years ago. Which seems strange also!

Lastly :

" Asked whether the police would press charge against the pair, Pol.Maj.Gen. Thitirat said although the suspects′ firearms were properly issued by the navy, it is an offence to carry weapons into areas under the State of Emergency without due cause."

What area does the state of Emergency cover!

Bukkalow is a fair distance from the protest sites.

And the pictures I saw of the guns. One looked a bit rusty, strange for a Navy issue weapon!!

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[Cricketnut]

What's the big fuss? We already know the military have been protecting the protestors because of the cowardly daily bomb and gun attacks. Police want to be tools of the Shinawatras and do nothing? No problem, the Navy will do their job.

Very violent comment ! shame on you.

The courts won't allow the police to do much... Ignorance is bliss.....

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[casualbiker]

What's the big fuss? We already know the military have been protecting the protestors because of the cowardly daily bomb and gun attacks. Police want to be tools of the Shinawatras and do nothing? No problem, the Navy will do their job.

Very violent comment ! shame on you.

The courts won't allow the police to do much... Ignorance is bliss.....

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The courts have not stopped the police from PROTECTING Thai people from gun and grenade attack.. the protestors are Thai as well.

Your life must be blissful.

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[HD 205]

What's the big fuss? We already know the military have been protecting the protestors because of the cowardly daily bomb and gun attacks. Police want to be tools of the Shinawatras and do nothing? No problem, the Navy will do their job.

Very violent comment ! shame on you.

The courts won't allow the police to do much... Ignorance is bliss.....

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The courts have not stopped the police from PROTECTING Thai people from gun and grenade attack.. the protestors are Thai as well.

Your life must be blissful.

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It's a bit difficult for the police to PROTECT them, when they are being shot at by them too, no?