Lite Beer Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Anti-graft body to conclude case against PM Yingluck within monthsBy Digital Content BANGKOK, Feb 27 - The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) should wrap up its case against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on charges of negligence of duty within the next few months, a commissioner said today.Ms Yingluck assigned her lawyer, Noravich Klalaeng, to officially acknowledge the charges at the NACC today and was given 15 days to prepare clarifications in response to the allegation.The caretaker premier was charged by NACC with negligence of duty in her capacity as chairperson of the National Rice Policy Committee (NRPC).The NACC has investigated alleged corruption in the government's rice pledging scheme, launched in 2012.Mr Noravich said the legal team would discuss whether the prime minister would personally clarify the allegations with the NACC or present her written clarifications.NACC member Vichai Vivitsevi said Ms Yingluck could extend the 15-day deadline if she needs more witnesses or evidence to substantiate her explanations.He said the NACC's investigation procedure was in accord with the law and that it did not unusually speed up the case as alleged, adding that Vicha Mahakhun, an NACC member who is in charge of investigatingthe case, has worked with honesty.Pro-government red shirt activists have demanded Mr Vicha's removal from the rice investigation committee, charging him with bias. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-02027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokheat Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 they are after her blood while suthep with arrest warrants runs free to do as he pleases 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MunterHunter Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 they are after her blood while suthep with arrest warrants runs free to do as he pleases I'm sure as soon as Chalerm sobers up he will lead a unit of policemen to arrest the vagabond! Actioning Arrest Warrents is the job of the police... but its beyond their ability unless it involves extorting money out of motorists for non-existant driving violations! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kikoman Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just out of curiosity does anyone know if the state pays for her legal costs or does the cost come out of her own pocket? You need not reply if you only want a cheap shot at demonizing me or offering snide remarks. I am simply curious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I dont know the details but i read on here the other day that Yingluck and the reds have alledged that the NACC have exhibited very unusual haste in proceeding with her case within 21 days whereas the case against her rival Abhisit has been dragging on since 5yrs. Dont know if the case against Abhisit has any merits as opposed to the corrupt rice scheme. But an independent(?) NACC should be more forthright in giving a clear explanation instead of just saying "we are proceeding as per the law and there is no undue haste" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers So your proposing that the rice scheme shows no corruption when it involves 1000's of Thai's yet one Thai policemen extracts 2000 baht out of me for dropping a cigarette butt on the road and pockets the money. Why? Because yingluck said it is a successful scheme? The NACC stated the investigation has been ongoing for over 1 year yet you cling to the "belief" that it took 21 days? Why? Because yingluck said it took 21 days? The minimum wage went up to 300 baht and inflation sweep through the nation. Yingluck said there is no inflation and I quote here "It is all in your imagination because of the hot weather" I assume you believed that too. Why? Because yingluck said it. If yingluck said the Titanic didn't sink would you believe that as well? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers This process was started years ago: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Rice-scheme-to-face-graft-probe-30193793.html Impossible to compare the case against Abhisit and Suthep with the case against the PM. Apples and oranges. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers See numerous previous answers to your cut and paste quote in other threads. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers What's the NACC's interest in Abhisit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers See numerous previous answers to your cut and paste quote in other threads. It just doesn't sink in heay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers How can you negligently lose 700 billion baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClog Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Are the NACC members selected by process underpinned by any democratic institution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers What's the NACC's interest in Abhisit? Don't expect him to come back and make a correction. He lost the plot quite some time ago! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Yingluck is being accorded the due process of law. She has for her part, however, started out abysmally by refusing to meet with the NACC, and by also smearing this constitutionally empowered committee on facebook. The fact of the matter is that these charges are enormously serious, and evidence has been pouring out from every direction in this administration throughout the scandal-ridden, corruption-ridden administration of it. And in the midst of it all, Yingluck has displayed the most cavalier attitude and near-disdain for the process of legal oversight. She still has enough time to show respect for these charges and the constitutional function of this committee. And she can start by telling the UDD to stop calling for the eradication of the checks and balances of the legal system, to stop calling for the elimination of the independent agencies, to stop calling for the neutering of the courts, to stop calling for the country to split down the middle, and to stop physically preventing the farmers from expressing their criticism of the administration. Once she has absorbed that cautionary list, she can start preparing herself for next Wednesday when Article 7 takes effect and strips her administration of its caretaker status in lieu of a parliamentary quorum. Edited February 27, 2014 by Scamper 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I dont know the details but i read on here the other day that Yingluck and the reds have alledged that the NACC have exhibited very unusual haste in proceeding with her case within 21 days whereas the case against her rival Abhisit has been dragging on since 5yrs. Dont know if the case against Abhisit has any merits as opposed to the corrupt rice scheme. But an independent(?) NACC should be more forthright in giving a clear explanation instead of just saying "we are proceeding as per the law and there is no undue haste" The NACC has already explained that the Commerce Ministry wrote to them to say that documents they requested to do with the investigation into the rice price guarantee scheme during Abhisit's premiership were destroyed in the 2011 floods. A most unfortunate state of affairs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClog Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 What is it with all this hiding behind appointed bodies. Yingluck is rightly highlighting the stark contrast between her treatment, and abisits treatment, by this appointed body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) should wrap up its case against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on charges of negligence of duty within the next few months, a commissioner said today. Seems like it could take many more months before they decide to indict her, specially if she is allowed to string out her own defence to the NACC with requests for more witnesses and evidence. The NACC had created the impression they could wrap in up by the end of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVGerry Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers What's the NACC's interest in Abhisit? Actually that's a good question. NACC deals with corruption and while I've heard the reds cry a alot about Abhisit's case taking so long, I never could find out what they were investigating him about? All I have from Google is something about sending free text message? Is that something that's costing the tax players billions that should be fast tracked? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 giving her plenty of time to send money off shore and plan her retreat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShannonT Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 They will conclude Yingluck's case within months. Great. What about Abhisit's case at the NACC which is now in it's 4th year without conclusion? Any updates on that? It means that case will be wrapped up before, right? Or did Abhisit jump backwards in the queue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers How can you negligently lose 700 billion baht? Same way you can lose 50,000 baht on a night on the piss!! by not paying attention!! Mate, as serious as that sounds, the Americans lost BILLIONS of dollars in Iraq in the same manner, all down to corruption and greed from various parties, and negligence and no accountability or responsibility to this on the American side was ever determined either. 2 years ago I was with a team tasked to find something like 10,000 greenhouses that were bought and paid for by the DoD, I think we located less than 100, and not a single person who seem to know where the rest went, or who signed for them. Multi million dollar projects that were complete with staff rotas and KPI's and Business goals were "found to be not found" with no such projects existing physically, just a huge space of <deleted> all in the desert!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisyourdaddy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 they are after her blood while suthep with arrest warrants runs free to do as he pleases Well who is stopping the police or the government to arrest him? Only the incompetence. And what is the problem with wanting her blood? money did not just evaporate into thin air. Though in all honesty, i do not believe she even understands what has happened, her darling brother payed it well to recover the money taken from him previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers What you not understand with investigation since december 2012 December 2014 - February 2014 = 422 days very far to 21 days that you claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) They will conclude Yingluck's case within months. Great. What about Abhisit's case at the NACC which is now in it's 4th year without conclusion? Any updates on that? It means that case will be wrapped up before, right? Or did Abhisit jump backwards in the queue? Yes your right.. Her case will be wrapped up earlier. At about 40 billion baht a month of tax payers money going into a bottomless pit I am surprised it took the NACC so long. The NACC should be held accountable for the delay in making yingluck accountable. Imagine 40 billion a month. I know…Unimaginable. Abhsist - Cost to the tax payer, to the country now……0….zero, no money, no baht.,. nadda…1-1 = 0, think of yinglucks IQ and minus 5 = 0... Yep…see where the priority is now for the tax payer, for the country? Edited February 27, 2014 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShannonT Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 they are after her blood while suthep with arrest warrants runs free to do as he pleases Well who is stopping the police or the government to arrest him? Only the incompetence. And what is the problem with wanting her blood? money did not just evaporate into thin air. Though in all honesty, i do not believe she even understands what has happened, her darling brother payed it well to recover the money taken from him previously The last time they tried to arrest him, hand grenades were thrown at the police officers and 2 police officers were killed. The courts ruled afterwards that the police were not allowed to be armed near the protest sites or enter the protest sites. So, how do you suggest they arrest him? Put corn on the street and wait for the chicken to come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisyourdaddy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 they are after her blood while suthep with arrest warrants runs free to do as he pleases Well who is stopping the police or the government to arrest him? Only the incompetence. And what is the problem with wanting her blood? money did not just evaporate into thin air. Though in all honesty, i do not believe she even understands what has happened, her darling brother payed it well to recover the money taken from him previously The last time they tried to arrest him, hand grenades were thrown at the police officers and 2 police officers were killed. The courts ruled afterwards that the police were not allowed to be armed near the protest sites or enter the protest sites. So, how do you suggest they arrest him? Put corn on the street and wait for the chicken to come out? Not my problem, but theirs. Nice of you to distort truth there a little though They did not TRY to arrest him, they tried to disperse the people VIOLENTLY and it failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brownbear Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 With respect to some, I can't help getting the feeling some of the posters on TVF either cannot read, are selective about what they read, or, could not give a damn and troll on to their heart's content whatever evidence is placed in front of them. Free speech is one thing, inane repetition of rhetorical BS is really, really boring. You may think you are furthering your case by saying the same thing over and over but fact is, you are showing yourselves up to be something else completely. These forums have in the past been useful and sometimes enlightening: IMHO many posters are now abusing the facility to promote political beliefs some of which I fear have no real support from the expatriate or local community. I even find it hard to believe that they believe what they are posting! I'd hate to be a mod on this forum at this point in time and good luck to those guys that are! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisyourdaddy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 With respect to some, I can't help getting the feeling some of the posters on TVF either cannot read, are selective about what they read, or, could not give a dam_n and troll on to their heart's content whatever evidence is placed in front of them. Free speech is one thing, inane repetition of rhetorical BS is really, really boring. You may think you are furthering your case by saying the same thing over and over but fact is, you are showing yourselves up to be something else completely. These forums have in the past been useful and sometimes enlightening: IMHO many posters are now abusing the facility to promote political beliefs some of which I fear have no real support from the expatriate or local community. I even find it hard to believe that they believe what they are posting! I'd hate to be a mod on this forum at this point in time and good luck to those guys that are! So what is your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadeloo Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The NACC members do not know the meaning of Honesty! They have failed to charge Abhisit after 3 years and bring charges against Yingluck in 21 days, Again if the Protesters have been crying for months about Yingluck's corruption and billions of baht missing, Why has the NACC only charged her with "negligence". Plain and simple they found "NO" corruption! Cheers yes! Kikoman, you are right! honesty is known only by Yingluck because she is virgin Mary herself. she never ever lied, and i bet her son is incarnation of Jesus himself. When he grow up he will call upon migthy smither to rain down apocalypsy upon those who go agains his family... right? and i bet you are his messenger to deliverly the well known message that they have been spreading to convert none beiliever right? Duh... m8, as usually, you just turn blind eyes from all the points, first: Negligence is quite a charge for a person who suppost to run the country... if a ceo or director of any major company do that, he would be send flying out of company faster than you can say Jack Robinson. second: the cat still not out of the bags yet because goverment refuse to release data regarding "sale" of the rice that has been going on for 2 years. what kind of company sale stuff for 2 years and still have no concrete sale record? all i heard was sound of nattawut swollowed big pile of poo (pun intended) during the interview in June 2013 with the journalists that put him against the wall and he suddently started to sound like shia labeouf. PS. i apology to any Christian person in here for using virgin Mary and Baby Jesus in my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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