rubl Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The Court shouldn't have any problems with red shirt armed democracy guards any more than it didn't have a problem with Suthep's democracy armed guards. If the law is the law, the number of guards shouldn't be relevant for either side. So long as democracy guards behave "peacefully" to express their freedom of speech doing things like padlock public buildings, follow people into shopping malls and attempt to kidnap them, beat up police, block public thoroughfares, occupy public lands and buildings, shutdown tv broadcasting, threaten to kidnap PDRC leaders, initmidate PDRC-friendly businesses, police are not empowered to use force against such guards. If the court does rule against red shirt armed democracy guards, then clearly it is biased in favor of PDRC and must be deemed "corrupt." I say all this as "tongue-in-cheek" but the cumulatve actions by "independent" agencies and courts seemed as a minimum inconsistently applied to politically opposing parties. You're trying to confuse the issue at hand by suggesting that Suthep's and the PDRC guards are 'democracy guards'. They are not, they're supposed to offer the anti-government protesters some security from violence which the police was unable or unwilling to provide them. Not that those guards have been much successful in that either. The red-shirt 'democracy guards' are to 'protect democracy' something the UDD is supposed to be doing for a while already. No idea why we would need one more, separate red-shirt guard, aren't the MiB enough? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The genie got out of the bottle when the military allowed its personnel to "freelance" for the PDRC. The Redshirts stayed quiet for many months despite the incessant hectoring and provocations from Suthep and his supporters. And now the people are taking steps to protect themselves when they rally on behalf of the government. It wasn't a matter of if, but when. To those who demand a military intervention, the circumstances are very different than in 2010. The Redshirts were in Bangkok, far from their powerbase and they were not well organized. Now, they are organized and they will be fighting on their home turf. It will be difficult for the limited number of loyalist military units to control the countryside and to fight an insurgency in the south as well as maintain order in Bangkok. I anticipate that a full out confrontation between the military and the supporters of the government will result in a mutiny in the military. Maybe that's what some foreigners want. However, we will all suffer if it occurs. Who are the red shirts protecting themselves against? Are they under attack? Even in case of a coup, noone is going to attack Chiang Mai or Isaan for that matter, why would they? The army will simply take Bangkok as usual, and gain control of all communication infrastructure, which is based in Bangkok, and that will be it. The army will then run the country from Bangkok, and Yingluck can sit in Chiang Mai and try to reopen her skype connection which the military will have closed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 100,000 guards for democracy. This is militancy and totally futile. How can you protect something you do not have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> to protect a democracy the first thing they need to be taught is WHAT IS A DEMOCRACY Depends on who is paying you. The red shirts had their own school to teach it. Graduates were versed in the use of guns and rocket launchers and how to make weapons out of other materials. Ah yes. Private armies run by criminal tycoons. Just what we need! You might add convicted in self imposed exile in Dubai to that. And Yingluck is there amongst them saying 'its nothing to do with Thaksin I am in charge' Obviously this army has her blessing. All hail her majesty the queen of Facebook. This is to rich a subject to pass up. It is like a horde running around with kick me signs on their back kicking each other and wondering why people are kicking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The Roman rulers had something similar.... the Pretorian Guard, the model later used by Hitler for his own private army, the Waffen SS and in more recent times by insecure dictators around the Third World. I'm not sure we really need this in a shiny, happy Buddhist paradise like Thailand though. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 A 100,000 democracy guards aren't going to be much use when the seven million anti-government protesters return to the streets... from wherever they all wandered off to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. I suppose any smart general would background check his troops and make sure he sends troops to areas other than their hometowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) Edited March 9, 2014 by monkeycountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkeycountry Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) well the fascists have done it - care to condemn ALL such 'guards'??? I DO both sides setting up 'guards' is separatist and should be condemned by all democrats (small 'd') but no doubt the 'yellows huggers' on here will condemn this but elevate the yellow PDRC 'guards' to 'fighting for freedom' which is cr*p of course Yes you are right, both sides have been and are doing exactly the same things but it is only bad if their wear red. Rubbish! The Anti-Government Protesters have never advocated separating the Country. We all know who Suthep supports. He doesn't want to separate the Country, he wants to get rid of the Thanksin Clan and their cronies, which is a totally different story. Their guards, have been there to protect against outside violence against the Anti-Government Protesters and that's it. NOT to try and secede from the Nation or to intimidate peaceful anti-Government protesters, like the Red Shirts have advocated publicly. Now the Red Shirt leaders are changing their wording, but not their actions. (I guess maybe they are getting a little scared about getting a noose around their neck?) They change the wording, but a private army, is still a private army, no matter what name you want to give it. Their intentions seem quite clear. If the Military doesn't step in, before this thing grows bigger, it might get very ugly, fast wake up!!! Suthep sought (seeks) to overthrow an elected government and run the country with a fascist UN-ELECTED 'council' nothing more separatist than THAT I know you leave out certain words such as "temporary" and "reform" on purpose, but then at least say that it is what you think Suthep wants, not what he is actually saying he wants.Anyway, just assume for a second (i am not asking you to believe it) that he tells the truth, and that the plan is for a council to reform the rules and prepare for a new election once proper checks and balances are in place. Would it then be a bad thing? If Yingluck had proposed the exact same thing instead of Suthep, I think most red shirts would have liked the idea, incl. you :-) The way I see it, elected leaders are not going to impose checks and balances on themselves, but a council whose members are automatically banned from standing in the election they are preparing for, just might. Edited March 9, 2014 by monkeycountry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Next steps to a Guerilla War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) There's Doi Inthanon just up the road, the highest point in SE Asia. The American's thought it important enough to build a listening.... sorry.... research station on the top of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noi657 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I get it now..... Thailand wants to be like Burma and Burma wants to be like Thailand! You go girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Roper Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) There's Doi Inthanon just up the road, the highest point in SE Asia. The American's thought it important enough to build a listening.... sorry.... research station on the top of it. IMO Chiang Mai may very well be a strategic location if the sh*t storm comes. The reds will have to control Chiang Mai and Bangkok. The VKong felt it was necessary to capture and control Saigon in 1975. IMO the control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai would be necessary in order to stand off any kind of strong resistance. Bangkok is the Prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinsurin Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 "The number of volunteer "guards to protect democracy" is expected to be at least 100,000 at the end of the month, red-shirt leader Suporn Atthawong said yesterday" It is nice to see them get something right....By referencing the "protection of Democracy" and getting off this PAD-Dem kick to whitewash themselves. By only characterizing their coup-mongerism as being "anti-Govt", and those opposed as being "pro-Govt", serves their misleading anti-Democracy agenda which they try to hide. Embarrassed by their own motivations. Sieg heil Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app So you belong to the Nazi party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 give people a rebellion call with a justification right or wrong and they will usually rally to the great call especially those that have little else - it's human nature, you see it all through history, it is driven by power and money but only the leaders have any chance of benefit The army gave a warning to those that are publicly supporting such a move and now they have denied it and no longer speak of it yet their actions say different, if these people are not stopped now then this is going to end very badly, all the organisers need to be detained as soon as possible, forming an army in any sense of the word cannot be legal and cannot be tolerated, this is serious shit and needs to end now, nobody wins just losers The current government will take no action over this, Yingluc should be condemning such activity and yet she remains silent Time for firm action 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) There's Doi Inthanon just up the road, the highest point in SE Asia. The American's thought it important enough to build a listening.... sorry.... research station on the top of it. I am not sure if you are joking? If you are then just forget the below. What do you suggest the army should use it to listen to if there was a coup? I think the army is more interested in controlling the satellites, tv, radio and the internet gateways, none of which is controlled from Chiang Mai (except perhaps red shirt radio :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 They need 'strength training' to be able to ride in the back of pickup trucks while holding giant flag poles without falling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The Court shouldn't have any problems with red shirt armed democracy guards any more than it didn't have a problem with Suthep's democracy armed guards. If the law is the law, the number of guards shouldn't be relevant for either side. So long as democracy guards behave "peacefully" to express their freedom of speech doing things like padlock public buildings, follow people into shopping malls and attempt to kidnap them, beat up police, block public thoroughfares, occupy public lands and buildings, shutdown tv broadcasting, threaten to kidnap PDRC leaders, initmidate PDRC-friendly businesses, police are not empowered to use force against such guards. If the court does rule against red shirt armed democracy guards, then clearly it is biased in favor of PDRC and must be deemed "corrupt." I say all this as "tongue-in-cheek" but the cumulatve actions by "independent" agencies and courts seemed as a minimum inconsistently applied to politically opposing parties. You're trying to confuse the issue at hand by suggesting that Suthep's and the PDRC guards are 'democracy guards'. They are not, they're supposed to offer the anti-government protesters some security from violence which the police was unable or unwilling to provide them. Not that those guards have been much successful in that either. The red-shirt 'democracy guards' are to 'protect democracy' something the UDD is supposed to be doing for a while already. No idea why we would need one more, separate red-shirt guard, aren't the MiB enough? I think they need another red shirt organization to make room for some idiot to have a group to lead. Nepotism in the red shirts as it stands now is to limiting so they are branching out to make more room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) There's Doi Inthanon just up the road, the highest point in SE Asia. The American's thought it important enough to build a listening.... sorry.... research station on the top of it. IMO Chiang Mai may very well be a strategic location if the sh*t storm comes. The reds will have to control Chiang Mai and Bangkok. The VKong felt it was necessary to capture and control Saigon in 1975. IMO the control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai would be necessary in order to stand off any kind of strong resistance. Bangkok is the Prize. Saigon was the financial and business center of the country, the port to the world, and a main entry point for the US army, so of course the VC wanted it. Are you comparing Saigon and Chiang Mai? Or did I misunderstand your post? Chiang Mai is the center of ... nothing, and I fail to see that it has more strategic value than say Koh Samui? Yes the Army may well be divided. But let us not overlook the fact that many of these soldiers have been given a taste of life out side a village that is strictly controlled by a head man and may not be that happy to keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post losworld Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Most of them probably would not be able to define true democracy nor would that recognize it if it bit them on the back side I'm quite sure they understand when told that their vote should be worth less than that of someone else. For example ,the comments of the beer heiress , who now seems to have disappeared from view after her views on Suthep's version of "democracy" , elite style, were flashed around and received so much derision in the international press. These people are the heart and soul of Thailand and the backbone of its economy.. 200,000 fewer bureaucrats in Bangkok, on the other hand, no-one would notice their absence Isaan is the heart and soul of the Thai economy? Whatever you are smoking don't give me any. Isaan is a have not province that consistently blames Bangkok for all their problems even though they have been literally robbed by Thaksin and his cell phone company to the tune of billions and they continue to be head faked in their own constituencies by the rice plan, the rice kings, the property kings and all those in their home provinces who have monopolized and taken advantage of them past and present. They need to wake up and get their own house in order first. The Democrats may not be the answer but the current government is not either. The only answer is a third party. Edited March 9, 2014 by losworld 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 the brownish/red shirts? Next will be a false flag. and that will anger a few people too. When they stress volunteer, you know they're being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mudcrab Posted March 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2014 "The number of volunteer "guards to protect democracy" is expected to be at least 100,000 at the end of the month, red-shirt leader Suporn Atthawong said yesterday" It is nice to see them get something right....By referencing the "protection of Democracy" and getting off this PAD-Dem kick to whitewash themselves. By only characterizing their coup-mongerism as being "anti-Govt", and those opposed as being "pro-Govt", serves their misleading anti-Democracy agenda which they try to hide. Embarrassed by their own motivations. I love this democratic waffle you continue to peddle. Show me one country in the world with the title of Democratic in their name that is actually democratic. Or a country that has "The peoples" republic or whatever that is not controlled by a totalitarian regime. A real democracy doesn't need to have these titles. I am at a loss to see why you or your ilk keep supporting despotic regimes. What do you have to gain from this? Some morbid attraction to death,destruction and possibly genocide? It certainly won't be citizenship. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueyeshk Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 A bit a fitness dosent harm the new fast food generation Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) I think so many people on here are being over dramatic. There will not be a civil war, there will not be two armies. Thais don't think this way it is just drama queens on Thai Visa. All the expert political analysis on T.Visa who are experts on everything Thai need to take a moment and go to the toilet and come back and reassess. Yes there are two political sides jostling for ultimate power and control of the country. Both sides are as bad or evil as the other. No side is better. There is a warrant issued, then there is a counter warrant issued. Then there is my court is better than your court bullshite. You charge me and I will charge you with defamation. The whole Thai political arena is a farse and a circus and we have T.V members siding with their favourite BOZO the clown. Both need to be hit in the back of the head with a shovel and sent to their rooms and not come out until they can play nice and sought things out. There is only one bat and one ball. Someone has to bat and someone has to bowl. ASEAN kicks off very soon. I see banners saying Thailand is ready. What bullshite, Thailand hasn't even showered or brushed their teeth and the rest of ASEAN are already walking down the red carpet. The door is about to be closed, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ah yes. Private armies run by criminal tycoons. Just what we need! That is Thailand for you. The Thailand the army and the Dems have been fighting to preserve. A feudal non-progressive society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The Roman rulers had something similar.... the Pretorian Guard, the model later used by Hitler for his own private army, the Waffen SS and in more recent times by insecure dictators around the Third World. I'm not sure we really need this in a shiny, happy Buddhist paradise like Thailand though. I Or the Pope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from? If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable? It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to? Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war.. If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is. I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war. You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-) I think so many people on here are being over dramatic. There will not be a civil war, there will not be two armies. Thais don't think this way it is just drama queens on Thai Visa. All the expert political analysis on T.Visa who are experts on everything Thai need to take a moment and go to the toilet and come back and reassess. Yes there are two political sides jostling for ultimate power and control of the country. Both sides are as bad or evil as the other. No side is better. There is a warrant issued, then there is a counter warrant issued. Then there is my court is better than your court bullshite. You charge me and I will charge you with defamation. The whole Thai political arena is a farse and a circus and we have T.V members siding with their favourite BOZO the clown. Both need to be hit in the back of the head with a shovel and sent to their rooms and not come out until they can play nice and sought things out. There is only one bat and one ball. Someone has to bat and someone has to bowl. ASEAN kicks off very soon. I see banners saying Thailand is ready. What bullshite, Thailand hasn't even showered or brushed their teeth and the rest of ASEAN are already walking down the red carpet. The door is about to be closed, I agree, the posturing is more about 'leave a seat at the table for us' There will be escalation only if this voice goes unheard and Thailand attempts once again to silence the electorate! How many coups now, will those that consider this an option, yet again, never learn! The people wish to participate in their future, it would appear they are done with being told what is good for them by the likes of Suthep! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 And they want to know why the army still its bunkers in Bangkok. In case 50,000 peaceful Democracy guards decide to visit Bangkok again like in 2010, that's why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcherkind666 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Multinational corporation's and central bank's want to create a one world order with the goal of culling the population by dividing the people of the target country using political rhetoric or religion or both then selling war supplies to both sides of said issue . basically they trick the people into paying to kill them self's or thin the herd so to speak. you can see there plan in action if one looks at the world's Geopolitical history as of late . simple solution Think with a compassionet mind and just say no to hate . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 "The number of volunteer "guards to protect democracy" is expected to be at least 100,000 at the end of the month, red-shirt leader Suporn Atthawong said yesterday" It is nice to see them get something right....By referencing the "protection of Democracy" and getting off this PAD-Dem kick to whitewash themselves. By only characterizing their coup-mongerism as being "anti-Govt", and those opposed as being "pro-Govt", serves their misleading anti-Democracy agenda which they try to hide. Embarrassed by their own motivations. Sieg heil Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app So you belong to the Nazi party? The Nazis came about because their leaders were permitted to do unspeakable things when those who could have spoken out were complacent. I would hate to see a repeat of that in Thailand in any scale. There are those who would and there are those who are complacent and there are those that would destroy all independent institutions to gain the absolute power to permit them to do so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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