Thai Democrat Party threatens to boycott second election

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Democrat Party threatens to boycott second election

Bangkok, 20 March 2014 (NNT) - Should the Constitution Court nullify the February 2nd election and caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck go ahead with the second round of elections, the Democrat Party will again boycott the polls, the Party spokesman says.

Democrat Spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut has requested that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra accept the Constitution Court’s March 21 rulings as regards the February 2nd election constitutionality. If the court decides to nullify the said election and the government proceeds to hold another general election immediately, the public and the Democrat in particular will not be able to accept that.

Chavanond further stated that if the premier did so, it would widen political rift and not benefit the country as a whole. The Democratic Party, in that case, would not participate in the new general election even if the party had to be dissolved as stipulated in the constitution. It will instead find another way to reform the country.

Chavanond added that the government should accept that election is the root cause of the problems in the country and find ways for it to be legitimate and accepted by all sides. Then and only then will the reform be able to take place. When that time comes, the Democrats will be ready to enter the race without concerns over the results.

However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond.

-- NNT 2014-03-20

[Costas2008]

Khun Chavanond, very sensible statement.

Fight to the end, oust the Shinawatra clan, and then have real DEMOCRATIC elections.

Edited March 20, 2014 by metisdead
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[LomSak27]

Why would they want to take part in an election?

Show again they are unable to win a majority? Embarrassing. They need ot get back to their bread and butter - Unelected Peoples Councils for all

Go Team Yelllow

Fight Team Yellow

Win Team Yellow

[DirtFarmer]

As is your prerogative...refuse to be a part of the thing your name embodies..."The Democratic Party, in that case, would not participate in the new general election even if the party had to be dissolved as stipulated in the constitution. It will instead find another way to reform the country."

Great! no surprise here... ( but not too smart I fear in the long run)...but ..Hey now you can start a new Party..The PRP Party... The Popcorn Reform Party...just be kind enough to not use Democratic again for it flies full in the face of what you are all about.. I had such high hopes for some kind of political outreach...six months ago when the rumblings began...some kind of build.... constructive build on what you found as weaknesses in the opposition...and you had a great opportunity.. to exploit it through political outreach, populist education and had you been concerned at all about reform... offered it then... and given the people you need to win an alternative...but instead you let a genie out of the bottle and it became enamored with its power of obstruction rather than construction...what a sham... lost faith in all parties here now...especially disappointed in the Democrats...but alas your claim to reform...that was and will never be the intention..as reform is the farthest thing from the Agenda.... same as it was last time around.....a paper tiger ...Democratic Reform...oxymoron...

[fab4]

"Chavanond further stated that if the premier did so, it would widen political rift and not benefit the country as a whole. The Democratic Party, in that case, would not participate in the new general election even if the party had to be dissolved as stipulated in the constitution. It will instead find another way to reform the country."

Don't we just know it, it's ongoing at the moment.

[Bangmod]

Yingluck has to accept the courts rulings.

If she does not want to accept the courts, we better let everybody free from the prisons, because no law should be for the people as even the PM doesn't accept them.

[fab4]

"However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond."

Democrat Party? What are they on - is he telling them they can't participate in the election because they happen to be the caretaker government?

Incredibly stupid statements and action.

[uty6543]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

[Spalpeen]

Since they won't be taking part in any more elections, a more accurate description would be 'former political party'. In any case, since they didn't vote in the last election, they're all barred from standing for election for the next five years.

[Spalpeen]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

[comeondoit]

the democrates are as stupid as the hole establishement, they did not learn the lesson. they should fight to win the next elections, their general meaninig of we will loose anyway is a very bad thing...only looosers say in advance we will loose...but they could win if they really would believe in winning

[Goat Roper]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

[DirtFarmer]

"If the court decides to nullify the said election and the government proceeds to hold another general election immediately, the public and the Democrat in particular will not be able to accept that."

Excuse me Mr. Spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut...but you do not speak for the public...only a small faction of the public...The "Good People's Public" or will it be the "Good Peoples Republic" now...? with you the spokesman as the "Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler" ?

So unless the constitution is tossed...will they be barred from forming a new party as well as banned from politics..or...? (seems to me that may be the case if I am not mistaken) so then how will you reform the Nation...? Don't think they thought this through...but through rhymes with.... oh I get it now...

[Thaddeus]

Since they won't be taking part in any more elections, a more accurate description would be 'former political party'. In any case, since they didn't vote in the last election, they're all barred from standing for election for the next five years.

Just because they didn't stand doesn't mean they didn't vote.

[Spalpeen]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

Cheating.........

More cheating........

Shooting voters........

........sorry, what was your point again?

[jayboy]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

At last a clear statement justifying the Democrat boycott (though I think a misguided one).

To make sense of it at least two questions need to be answered:

1.How was the last election not valid and fairly conducted especially since all independent observers were satisfied?

2.What precise reforms need to be put in place to make the next one fair?

I'm not unsympathetic to a national effort across parties to reform the system and tackle corruption, but for clarity's sake there needs to be an understanding on an improved electoral process.

If the response is just the usual claptrap (Thaksin buying farmers votes etc) we can only conclude the Democrat boycott is for the reason they are unelectable.

And in that case the advice should be ditch the incompetent leadership, cut ties with the gangster Suthep, tell the Bangkok middle class that they cannot have the casting vote, develop some policies attractive to the Thai people as a whole.. and then win an election.

[SoilSpoil]

"However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond."

Democrat Party? What are they on - is he telling them they can't participate in the election because they happen to be the caretaker government?

Incredibly stupid statements and action.

Why compete in an election when the ruling party refuses to accept the verdicts of courts and independent agencies? The Dems have always respected their position of being the opposition. But with the present group of (self exiled) criminals running the country, what would it be worth to be an opposition party?

Edited March 20, 2014 by SoilSpoil

[winstonc]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

Cheating.........

image.jpg

More cheating........

image.jpg

Shooting voters........

image.jpg

........sorry, what was your point again?

whats the point of those pictures where does cheating get involved in the unruly behaviour in said pics..whats your point more like.. i dont get it enlighten me

[seajae]

if the court nullifies the election then newq elections should noit be held until the court cases against the pm and several ptp members is finalized. Where is the sense in having elections when half those in them are facing legal action, electing someone that could be jailed is totally senseless. Once the courts have dealt with the ones facing charges(dems included) then the elections should be held.

[dickyknee]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

who would want to win the next election? what is there to win? The country is about to fall into the toilet.

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[Spalpeen]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

Cheating.........

image.jpg

More cheating........

image.jpg

Shooting voters........

image.jpg

........sorry, what was your point again?

whats the point of those pictures where does cheating get involved in the unruly behaviour in said pics..whats your point more like.. i dont get it enlighten me

Strangling and shooting members of the public who want to vote. If that's not cheating, I don't know what is.

[fab4]

"However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond."

Democrat Party? What are they on - is he telling them they can't participate in the election because they happen to be the caretaker government?

Incredibly stupid statements and action.

Why compete in an election when the ruling party refuses to accept the verdicts of courts and independent agencies? The Dems have always respected their position of being the opposition. But with the present group of (self exiled) criminals running the country, what would it be worth to be an opposition party?

There is no reasonable answer to that IF you believe the courts and independant agencies are just that, independant. To my mind the courts and independant agencies deserve the respect they are being accorded.

[rubl]

Why would they want to take part in an election?

Show again they are unable to win a majority? Embarrassing. They need ot get back to their bread and butter - Unelected Peoples Councils for all

Go Team Yelllow

Fight Team Yellow

Win Team Yellow

Why should any democratic party try to win a majority? Isn't a coalition of various parties not a better guarantee of democratic behaviour? Of listening to all?

The Pheu Thai party likes to 'win' and respect the vote till it's counted, following which there is a 'thank you, please go home, we have a mandate, we have work to do'. Next turn to North Korea were recently Mr. Kim won 100% of all votes in his constituency with 100% of the electorate actually casting their vote. Bravo!

[gemini81]

Who wants to play against a team that wins by cheating every time.

Who wants to play against a team that wins every time?

Wins by cheating every time!

Cheating.........

image.jpg

More cheating........

image.jpg

Shooting voters........

image.jpg

........sorry, what was your point again?

Pale in comparison to Pheua Khwai and the political peasants of the red rouge, isn't it?

[StealthEnergiser]

Great decision dem's only way for future success keeping the pressure on the puppets .

[rubl]

"However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond."

Democrat Party? What are they on - is he telling them they can't participate in the election because they happen to be the caretaker government?

Incredibly stupid statements and action.

Why compete in an election when the ruling party refuses to accept the verdicts of courts and independent agencies? The Dems have always respected their position of being the opposition. But with the present group of (self exiled) criminals running the country, what would it be worth to be an opposition party?

There is no reasonable answer to that IF you believe the courts and independant agencies are just that, independant. To my mind the courts and independant agencies deserve the respect they are being accorded.

So what you are implying here is that your believes are different.

[fab4]

Why would they want to take part in an election?

Show again they are unable to win a majority? Embarrassing. They need ot get back to their bread and butter - Unelected Peoples Councils for all

Go Team Yelllow

Fight Team Yellow

Win Team Yellow

Why should any democratic party try to win a majority? Isn't a coalition of various parties not a better guarantee of democratic behaviour? Of listening to all?

The Pheu Thai party likes to 'win' and respect the vote till it's counted, following which there is a 'thank you, please go home, we have a mandate, we have work to do'. Next turn to North Korea were recently Mr. Kim won 100% of all votes in his constituency with 100% of the electorate actually casting their vote. Bravo!

You do like your made up slogans don't you - what is all this "thank you, please go home, we have a mandate, we have work to do" - what is it's relevance? Don't bother telling me, I'm not that interested.

And this hyperbole about N.Korea? Its the dems that are coming up with the N.Korean election rules

"However, the Prime Minister and her government should not be the ones hosting the general election because they are part of the conflict, said Chavanond."

What are they supposed to do as a caretaker government, walk away and not contest the election?

And as for your coalition of various parties - how well did that go for the dems, not much of a guarantee of democratic behaviour was it, 6 MP's being disqualified by the CC and having to resign?

[Thailand]

Plain and simple, they know they cannot win so they will not even try, so like spoiled little kids they don't want to play.

What an absolute shower and a disgrace to anything remotely democratic, they should all be ashamed.

[gemini81]

Plain and simple, they know they cannot win so they will not even try, so like spoiled little kids they don't want to play.

What an absolute shower and a disgrace to anything remotely democratic, they should all be ashamed.

Why? Its such a frickin' farce, PTP is corrupt to the core, going down the tubes like a rabbit standing on one leg. They're doomed. Why should be democratic party get suckered in to agreeing and accepting the terms of PTP when they themselves don't obey laws?

[Chang_paarp]

I wonder if someone explained to "Democrat Spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut" that if a party does not contend two elections in a row the party gets dissolved under the election laws.

I guess that they will argue that because the first election was decreed to be void it does not count as an election in the sight of the election law.