webfact Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Pheu Thai tells US and UN of attempts to block election in ThailandBANGKOK: -- The Pheu Thai party has complained to US President Barak Obama and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon about the presence of a political movement in Thailand bent on obstructing the election and putting the country in deep freeze.The complaint was contained in a letter submitted to the US president through the US embassy in Bangkok by a group of Pheu Thai party’s former female MPs. The other was submitted to the UN head office in New York.In the letters of complaint, the Pheu Thai party also accused the movement of attempting to get rid of democracy represented by the party.Ms Anutta Amornvivat, deputy secretary-general of Pheu Thai party, thanked the US for supporting democracy in Thailand. She defended that the complaints to the UN and the US were not part of a strategy to use the world community to surround Thailand.Ms Anutta also urged the international community to keep a close watch on the development of the situation in Thailand.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-tells-us-un-attempts-block-election-thailand/ -- Thai PBS 2014-03-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Why ask Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 The world is watching Ms Anutta, and giggling. It laughs even more when you write letters to other countries complaining that your bread fell butter side down. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr Bruce Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 A timely reminder from PT for the international community to watch for the next coup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 The PTP must think the US and the rest of the world are really stupid. To think that no other Gov knows already what is happening here and why. Their lame letters will be laughed upon and seen as a way only to protect the PTP. Even if it states the letter is not sent as a strategy it clearly is a strategy to encourage the world to see the PTP are defenders of their idea of democracy and should be supported by the international community. It would not surprise me if they sent other letters stating how wrongfully the courts are treating them and how the checks and balances are biased against them. Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Does anyone know of any website containing this letter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 Reminds me a bit how the Khmer Rouge sent a letter to the U.N. back in the day, complaining about those bad, bad Vietnamese invading their beloved "Democratic Kampuchea". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Remind me again - which side are Pheu Thai on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post antimedia Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 If I was going to send a letter to anyone in the international community regarding the undermining of Democracy, these two would be last on my list. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The PTP must think the US and the rest of the world are really stupid. To think that no other Gov knows already what is happening here and why. Their lame letters will be laughed upon and seen as a way only to protect the PTP. Even if it states the letter is not sent as a strategy it clearly is a strategy to encourage the world to see the PTP are defenders of their idea of democracy and should be supported by the international community. It would not surprise me if they sent other letters stating how wrongfully the courts are treating them and how the checks and balances are biased against them.Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Love to be fly on the wall when the western embassy's send their daily in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr Bruce Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 Remind me again - which side are Pheu Thai on Pheu Thai are on the side of the Thai people, they want to have elections so that the Thai people's vote will be respectted. The PDRC are a small group who believe that they would be better running the country. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 This would have to be the most bizarre corespondence that a U.S. President has ever received, the PTP brought these people onto the streets, they are demanding reform before elections , granted, it is not legal or democratic to block people going about their daily work, it is also is not legal to threaten the NACC , there is a police force that up holds the law , so where is the problem, look into your own back yard PTP and you will find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fryslan boppe Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Excellent. The more that the pro-democracy side exposes the unelectable's attempt to eliminate Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy, the better. To shine a light on them, as they are trying to surreptitiously expedite a coup via their Independent Organizations and user-friendly judiciary causes the rats to scurry..By not using their military like last time, and launching their judicial and demonization vendetta against Thaksin causing him to self-exile, they think they can make a coup not appear to be a coup. That certainly doesn't work with domestic audiences...They know exactly what is happening. I understand there are UDD/RS meetings going on now, carefully managed as to participation, to "dot-the I's and cross-the T's" in finalizing their action plans when the Ammart makes their final moves via their compliant agencies and judiciary.......From what I can see, this is not 2006 all-over-again, let me assure you. Edited March 28, 2014 by Fryslan boppe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SABloke Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 Excellent. The more that the pro-democracy side exposes the unelectable's attempt to eliminate Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy, the better. To shine a light on them, as they are trying to surreptitiously expedite a coup via their Independent Organizations and user-friendly judiciary causes the rats to scurry..By not using their military like last time, and launching their demonization vendetta against Thaksin causing him to self-exile, they think they can make a coup not appear to be a coup. That certainly doesn't work with domestic audiences...They know exactly what is happening. I understand there are UDD/RS meetings going on now, carefully managed as to participation, to "dot-the I's and cross-the T's" in finalizing their action plans when the Ammart makes their final moves vis their compliant agencies and judiciary.......From what I can see, this is not 2006 all-over-again, let me assure you. Unfortunately these men care about Thailand about as much as TV members care about your posts. Actually, I'm being a bit harsh - they care a little bit more about Thailand, but not much. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Both sides writing to Obama complaining the other isn't playing fair. Thailand you are a basket case and the world is laughing at you. O.K you have both begged the U.S for help so it is time for the U.S to send in the troops and colonise the place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luk Mhee Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 How many times has the American’s request been rejected? “This is our country we can do what we like” is the favourite saying, and so the world has left our country way behind, to do what we like. And now when the chips are falling the wrong way, the outcry is “help us, help us.” What a bunch of hypocrites. Do you really think the world is stupid? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthompson Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Why is it that Thai people always have to seek approval from their American master. What has America got to do with the problems in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thaksin and Yingluck didn't play this right. She should have been pounding the table and calling in world international news to expose the efforts of Suthep and the PDRC to invalidate an elected government and call attention to the ludicrous nature of their proposals. As time went on, she could have leveraged their reporting had there been any. Makes you wonder what all those foreign journalists are doing between drinks and short times over on Soi 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 A timely reminder from PT for the international community to watch for the next coup. Give it a rest, man. Even Jatuporn isn't predicting coups any longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsuar Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Remind me again - which side are Pheu Thai on The side that pays the most.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Maybe Abhisit should send a letter to the UN and Obama and tell them that the PTP don't adhere to the other 14 principles of democracy. Maybe Abhsisit should tell them in this letter than elections are meaningless because an accused mass murderer, accused terrorist convicted criminal fugitive that is UNELECTABLE will be running the show if the PTP win. So kinda puts a true slant on any future elections. Obama would see that that is not acceptable and would maybe………just maybe think reform is needed to ensure an unelectable criminal is not PM. One could say that unless reforms are implemented this will be an electoral coup. Those dirty coup mongers that not only supportered the 1992 coup when it suited their agenda, but are performing coups every election to keep a grip on power. The DEM's have denounced every coup in Thai history and the PTP have heralded 2. The 1992 coup and the 2011 coup. So to reiterate DEMS tally in coups - 0. The PTP - 2. The PTP sound like a spoilt unaccountable younger brother that always blames his older brother for everything yet still feels hard done by. I can see the letter to mum telling her that it "is not my fault", "they made me do it" When the PTP learn than democracy begins post ballot box then they won't have to worry. It is this complete refusal to respect democracy after elections that triggered this push for reform. The 2007 constitution strengthed the checks and balances much to 61% of the populations delight that voted for it, but that was not enough tp keep the insulant child from staying true to all the principles of democracy. They still managed to ride roughshod through the rule of law with impertinence and just like a spoilt younger brother blamed his elder brother for his own wrong doings. This is a wonderful example of the PTP highlighting to the UN and the USA of it's inability to respect democracy. The USA has already seen this PTP warped belief structure. PTP said the PDRC are violent. The USA said they are not. The PTP denounced the rule of law. The USA said the rule of law is paramount to democracy. I remember a Dr Weng sending a letter to the UN when the UN did not suit their agenda with the amnesty bill. He effectively said to the UN your wrong and we are right. Here are some quotes to the UN from him. "your declarations could be misleading and your credibility come under scrutiny" and "you are misinformed" and "you are completely incorrect". Just to reiterate, that is an official statement from the PTP/UDD to the UN. The USA and especially the UN are well aware that the PTP and the UDD send letters on a whim and the UN who was also threatened when the UN did not suit their agenda will not be forgotten when the UN rep opens this new letter with shaky nervous hands and sweat dripping from his brow wondering if it is another threat or not form a govt that have a terrorist wing to do all it's dirty work. Edited March 28, 2014 by djjamie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post binjalin Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 absolutely right... it's the truth, it's what's happened a very small minority have had the elections disallowed on a technicality - it's an UTTER, UTTER disgrace to any free-thinking, democratic person and of course the government should make world leaders aware of the poor state of democracy here well done!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 A timely reminder from PT for the international community to watch for the next coup. Ahhhh, the coup!! It's at least 2 hours we did not hear about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Maybe Abhisit should send a letter to the UN and Obama and tell them that the PTP don't adhere to the other 14 principles of democracy. Maybe Abhsisit should tell them in this letter than elections are meaningless because an accused mass murderer, accused terrorist convicted criminal fugitive that is UNELECTABLE will be running the show if the PTP win. So kinda puts a true slant on any future elections. Obama would see that that is not acceptable and would maybe………just maybe think reform is needed to ensure an unelectable criminal is not PM. One could say that unless reforms are implemented this will be an electoral coup. Those dirty coup mongers that not only supportered the 1992 coup when it suited their agenda, but are performing coups every election to keep a grip on power. The DEM's have denounced every coup in Thai history and the PTP have heralded 2. The 1992 coup and the 2011 coup. So to reiterate DEMS tally in coups - 0. The PTP - 2. The PTP sound like a spoilt unaccountable younger brother that always blames his older brother for everything yet still feels hard done by. I can see the letter to mum telling her that it "is not my fault", "they made me do it" When the PTP learn than democracy begins post ballot box then they won't have to worry. It is this complete refusal to respect democracy after elections that triggered this push for reform. The 2007 constitution strengthed the checks and balances much to 61% of the populations delight that voted for it, but that was not enough tp keep the insulant child from staying true to all the principles of democracy. They still managed to ride roughshod through the rule of law with impertinence and just like a spoilt younger brother blamed his elder brother for his own wrong doings. This is a wonderful example of the PTP highlighting to the UN and the USA of it's inability to respect democracy. The USA has already seen this PTP warped belief structure. PTP said the PDRC are violent. The USA said they are not. The PTP denounced the rule of law. The USA said the rule of law is paramount to democracy. I remember a Dr Weng sending a letter to the UN when the UN did not suit their agenda with the amnesty bill. He effectively said to the UN your wrong and we are right. Here are some quotes to the UN from him. "your declarations could be misleading and your credibility come under scrutiny" and "you are misinformed" and "you are completely incorrect". Just to reiterate, that is an official statement from the PTP/UDD to the UN. The USA and especially the UN are well aware that the PTP and the UDD send letters on a whim and the UN who was also threatened when the UN did not suit their agenda will not be forgotten when the UN rep opens this new letter with shaky nervous hands and sweat dripping from his brow wondering if it is another threat or not form a govt that have a terrorist wing to do all it's dirty work. "much to 61% of the populations delight that voted for it" spinning the lie again? there was no choice the Army threatened to stay in power and no campaign against it was allowed - does it match up to your highfalutin ideals of democracy or are you a hypocrite? HOBSON'S CHOICE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 The world is watching Ms Anutta, and giggling. It laughs even more when you write letters to other countries complaining that your bread fell butter side down. Ummm, Obama thinks, Russia!!!!!....Ummmm. Thailand .......Ummmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Remind me again - which side are Pheu Thai on Pheu Thai are on the side of the Thai people, they want to have elections so that the Thai people's vote will be respectted. The PDRC are a small group who believe that they would be better running the country. Pheu Thai are on the side of the elite left, run by the Shin clan under billionaire fugitive convicted criminal ex-prime minister Mr. Thaksin in Dubai. They are a derivative of earlier political parties that have been dis-banded for election fraud. The current prime minster Yingluck is Thaksin's younger sister, the latest of Thaksin's immediate family members to be installed as prime minister. The Shin rise to power was built upon massive voter fraud, vote buying, and use of state funds for populist policies aimed at swaying voters, and the claim of democratic legitimacy to shield rampant corruption. Under Mr. Thaksin's rule, corruption in Thailand reached new highs that led to an antagonistic split among the country's powerful wealthy elite. One of Thaksin's key political innovations was the introduction of organized armed violence between ordinary Thai citizens under the guidance of the late renegade general Khattiya Sawasdipol also known as Seh Daeng (MHRIP). Thaksin is also known for the successful implementation of political hatred in one of the the most harmonious and religiously unified countries on planet Earth. Edited March 28, 2014 by rabas 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Sure....Why the US an the UN will like to see with "good" eyes a "RED" party on power?......The US Air Force have plans already for a US Military base in Thailand....something that the Chinese Government do not like at all..Everything happens for a reason..not for coincidences...and "Spring" started sooner in Thailand.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 The world is watching Ms Anutta, and giggling. It laughs even more when you write letters to other countries complaining that your bread fell butter side down. She's a prime example of the nepotism rotting the core of Thai politics. The Amornvivat family is steeped in sleazy personnel as representative of the regional feudal fiefdoms. The one binding factor is an alliance with Thaksin. Laughable they are the ones writing the letter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Maybe Abhisit should send a letter to the UN and Obama and tell them that the PTP don't adhere to the other 14 principles of democracy. Maybe Abhsisit should tell them in this letter than elections are meaningless because an accused mass murderer, accused terrorist convicted criminal fugitive that is UNELECTABLE will be running the show if the PTP win. So kinda puts a true slant on any future elections. Obama would see that that is not acceptable and would maybe………just maybe think reform is needed to ensure an unelectable criminal is not PM. One could say that unless reforms are implemented this will be an electoral coup. Those dirty coup mongers that not only supportered the 1992 coup when it suited their agenda, but are performing coups every election to keep a grip on power. The DEM's have denounced every coup in Thai history and the PTP have heralded 2. The 1992 coup and the 2011 coup. So to reiterate DEMS tally in coups - 0. The PTP - 2. The PTP sound like a spoilt unaccountable younger brother that always blames his older brother for everything yet still feels hard done by. I can see the letter to mum telling her that it "is not my fault", "they made me do it" When the PTP learn than democracy begins post ballot box then they won't have to worry. It is this complete refusal to respect democracy after elections that triggered this push for reform. The 2007 constitution strengthed the checks and balances much to 61% of the populations delight that voted for it, but that was not enough tp keep the insulant child from staying true to all the principles of democracy. They still managed to ride roughshod through the rule of law with impertinence and just like a spoilt younger brother blamed his elder brother for his own wrong doings. This is a wonderful example of the PTP highlighting to the UN and the USA of it's inability to respect democracy. The USA has already seen this PTP warped belief structure. PTP said the PDRC are violent. The USA said they are not. The PTP denounced the rule of law. The USA said the rule of law is paramount to democracy. I remember a Dr Weng sending a letter to the UN when the UN did not suit their agenda with the amnesty bill. He effectively said to the UN your wrong and we are right. Here are some quotes to the UN from him. "your declarations could be misleading and your credibility come under scrutiny" and "you are misinformed" and "you are completely incorrect". Just to reiterate, that is an official statement from the PTP/UDD to the UN. The USA and especially the UN are well aware that the PTP and the UDD send letters on a whim and the UN who was also threatened when the UN did not suit their agenda will not be forgotten when the UN rep opens this new letter with shaky nervous hands and sweat dripping from his brow wondering if it is another threat or not form a govt that have a terrorist wing to do all it's dirty work. "much to 61% of the populations delight that voted for it" spinning the lie again? there was no choice the Army threatened to stay in power and no campaign against it was allowed - does it match up to your highfalutin ideals of democracy or are you a hypocrite? HOBSON'S CHOICE Sorry you're right. Thanks for highlighting my incorrect %. On 19 August 2007, a referendum was held in which 59.3% of the voters voted in favor of the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 It is too much to hope for that we will ever see the reply to this letter. "Sorry to hear about your problems. I would love to help but I've got my hands full at the moment. World war three doesn't just start itself, you know. Hugs, Obey." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted March 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2014 Remind me again - which side are Pheu Thai on Pheu Thai are on the side of the Thai people, they want to have elections so that the Thai people's vote will be respectted. The PDRC are a small group who believe that they would be better running the country. Can you please IP your address I want my lawyer to sue you for damage to my right leg I hurt my self when I fell off my chair reading your post God it was funny I was in great paint but laughing when the wife found me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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