Ranking Thailand's Immigration Tolerance

[ggt]

Thailand came in 2nd...in the nations with the least tolerance of immigrants...

This came as a surprise to me...Indonesia was No.1 in least tolerance...

Complete article here: http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poorest-list/no-go-the-10-countries-least-tolerant-of-immigrants/7/

How does this make you feel...is this shocking...or have you suspected this all along?

[wym]

Can't take this source at its word. How was such tolerance measured?

Can't find the original survey data. . .

This is interesting, different question though

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

Edited April 5, 2014 by wym

[Soutpeel]

Can't take this source at its word. How was such tolerance measured?

Can't find the original survey data. . .

Not suprised by this at all

One supposes its a measure of the number of legal immigrants ie PR and Citizenships granted versus the current population

Farangs living here on visa's or extension of stay's are not legal immigrants BTW as much as some claim to be.

the title of the piece is also misleading to a degree, its not a measure of xenophobia or "hatred" of immigrants

All this piece is basically saying its very hard to be a legal immigrant in Thailand thats all

[thepool]

The source given presents a tabloid view of some serious academic work.

The actual source of the data can be found here

http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi#performance/regions/idr46/dim1,dim2,dim3,idr46,idr47

The "Social Progress Index " is new and still in the process of being refined.

[wym]

Very interesting, looks like a good project.

Any idea how to find the actual survey questions?

[thepool]

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Very interesting, looks like a good project.

Any idea how to find the actual survey questions?

Look here for detail about the methodology

http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi/methodology

And here

http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi/definitions

Edited April 5, 2014 by thepool

[sustento]

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[wym]

Yes I did state that wasn't a credible site.

Very interesting, looks like a good project.

Any idea how to find the actual survey questions?

Look here for detail about the methodology

So I guess that's a 'no'.

Thanks anyway. . .

[thepool]

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Yes I did state that wasn't a credible site.

Very interesting, looks like a good project.

Any idea how to find the actual survey questions?

Look here for detail about the methodology

So I guess that's a 'no'.

Thanks anyway. . .

There are no "survey" questions !

The project utilises multiple data sources which is why I directed you to the last two links I provided .

An examination of those pages will explain how the outcomes are achieved.

Even more information here if a good read is wanted !

http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/system/resources/W1siZiIsIjIwMTQvMDQvMDIvMjAvMTkvNDQvMjcyL1NvY2lhbF9Qcm9ncmVzc19JbmRleF8yMDE0X01ldGhvZG9sb2dpY2FsX1JlcG9ydC5wZGYiXV0/Social%20Progress%20Index%202014%20Methodological%20Report.pdf

Edited April 5, 2014 by thepool

[DP25]

Tolerance towards immigrants varies substantially depending on what country you are from. A Japanese or an American will have a very different experience than Cambodian or Burmese. They are the ones that make up the vast majority of migrants

[NeverSure]

I don't understand the premise. For instance, The US is often called "the melting pot" because it was inhabited by people of all races and many ethnicities.

On the other hand, the US has strict and difficult immigration policies. So is it tolerant of immigrants? I think the average Joe would rate well if discussing racism, but immigration is a different topic.

[wym]

There are no "survey" questions !

The project utilises multiple data sources which is why I directed you to the last two links I provided .

An examination of those pages will explain how the outcomes are achieved.

Even more information here if a good read is wanted !

http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/system/resources/W1siZiIsIjIwMTQvMDQvMDIvMjAvMTkvNDQvMjcyL1NvY2lhbF9Qcm9ncmVzc19JbmRleF8yMDE0X01ldGhvZG9sb2dpY2FsX1JlcG9ydC5wZGYiXV0/Social%20Progress%20Index%202014%20Methodological%20Report.pdf

Thanks much for that last link, I guess the way their site is doing the collapsible javascript isn't working in my Chrome setup.

The only information from the PDF says that the "Tolerance for immigrants" factor comes from a Gallup World Poll - so that sure sounds like a survey to me.

How else could you have anything objective, ranking comments on forum discussion boards?

Be great to get further details, look forward to finding out more as they're available.

[kimbathewhitelion]

Sounds right but worded a bit too PC.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

[wym]

I don't understand the premise. For instance, The US is often called "the melting pot" because it was inhabited by people of all races and many ethnicities.

On the other hand, the US has strict and difficult immigration policies. So is it tolerant of immigrants? I think the average Joe would rate well if discussing racism, but immigration is a different topic.

I think you'll find US policies not so strict and difficult compared to many, and it's mostly dictated by the huge numbers that are TRYING to get in.

By far the highest proportion of immigrants in the world are in the US - 46 million, or 15% of the US population wasn't born there.

Only 40% of US population growth is coming from the locals spawning, 60% is from immigration.

Just LA has over 5 million Asians, in Hawaii they're now the majority.

And most reasonable Americans realize this is one of the primary engines of our technological innovation and economic growth.

You just need to have enough money or the right skillset - or be a beautiful TG and charm a silly Yank 8-)

[ABCer]

Let us not mix up the issues. Confusion makes good ground for antagonism.

Coming to Thailand, living in Thailand on a permanent basis is relatively easy. Without Visa Runs.

Yearly extensions of stay are affordable and easy to get. Never had any problems with Immigration Office.

Immigration to Thailand on the other hand is very difficult. Moreover IMHO it makes very little sense.

Thai people are friendly, smiley and hospitable at least on the surface.

Thai Immigration Laws are unfriendly and farang phobic to the point of being stupid and lacking of logic.

Law being what it is leaves us no alternative but to comply.

Is it difficult? - No. Is it annoying? - Yes. But Law being what it is...

[Jingthing]

Not at all surprised.

[jaideeguy]

TIT!!

12 more posts and you're at 50,000 JT!!

[Jingthing]

TIT!!

12 more posts and you're at 50,000 JT!!

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I was keeping such a low profile until you let the cat out of the bag.

Thanks for nothing.