UDD plans post-Songkran battle

[sweatalot]

Amsterdam is brilliant. He describes Thai democrats struggling to overcome the oppression of rich fat cats who bend the law for their own interest. Your only response is "Thaksin". If Thaksin and all his kin were gone would it then be okay with you if the red shirts elected someone else (they are the majority, after all)? I doubt it. Their candidate would then be "follower of Thaksin" or "successor of Thaksin". No matter what, you will never be happy with majority rule, because it will always return someone who doesn't agree with your selfish desire to exploit the poor.

The problem with democracy is, that it works as it should only, when the majority is decent and well educated,

if this is not the case we will always have a ruling of the lower educated or indecent masses

Hilarious. But at least you are explicit in your rejection of democracy. A true tory.

Seeing the BIG disadvantage and the abuse of democracy does not mean to reject it -

but if I knew a better form of government I would for sure reject democracy.

Until then power to the people - but first make sure they are decent and know what they are doing.

[In Town]

Amsterdam is brilliant. He describes Thai democrats struggling to overcome the oppression of rich fat cats who bend the law for their own interest. Your only response is "Thaksin". If Thaksin and all his kin were gone would it then be okay with you if the red shirts elected someone else (they are the majority, after all)? I doubt it. Their candidate would then be "follower of Thaksin" or "successor of Thaksin". No matter what, you will never be happy with majority rule, because it will always return someone who doesn't agree with your selfish desire to exploit the poor.

The problem with democracy is, that it works as it should only, when the majority is decent and well educated,

if this is not the case we will always have a ruling of the lower educated or indecent masses

Hilarious. But at least you are explicit in your rejection of democracy. A true tory.

Seeing the BIG disadvantage and the abuse of democracy does not mean to reject it -

but if I knew a better form of government I would for sure reject democracy.

Until then power to the people - but first make sure they are decent and know what they are doing.

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote, or know enough to vote? You? Suthep? Please define how you will achieve this laudable goal. Then we will know what steps must be taken to ensure that at some date in the future the majority of the people of Thailand can be allowed to choose their own leaders.

[northernjohn]

Suthep - final battle

Jatuporn - final battle

Welcome to Thailand...

For 500 baht I can get you a second row seat. 1,000 baht for a ring side seat. All other seats 200 baht.

The preliminary will be a belly shoving match between Jatuporn and Suthep.

It will be followed up by a debate on being ruled by a convicted convict on the run from the law living in another country as to the merits of having a Thai never a convict or convicted of any thing living in Thailand and working for the good of Thailand.

Promises to be a lively debate

Closing will be is it better to reform the government where it needs reforming or pick up guns, bombs and grenades and attempt to run it that way?

Expect a standing room only crowd each standing spot will be 50 baht.

Talk of a mid show entertainment with Jatuporn doing magic card tricks and telling jokes.

Kids free.

[dwcrist]

The language of 'we don't want a civil but there will be one if we don't agree with the verdict of the court' is very troubling on many levels. The implicit violence, the threat to the independence of the court system, the 'Suthep is undemocratic so we will be undemocratic' is intimidating. I'm don't want to be in Bangkok when the shit hits the fan but may have no choice. There really is no defense when a mob has been enraged and is turned loose on the general populace. I expect random as well as organized acts of violence if certain court decisions are not to Thaksin's liking. He's backed into a corner and like most animals backed into a corner, the viciousness knows no bounds. Years of hate speech have brainwashed many to the point where a little nudge and they are not responsible for their actions.

If this degenerates into a civil war, and it is fought in Bangkok, everyone will lose as the death toll will be very high and the property destruction and loss of business will be astronomical. I sincerely hope the army is ready, at a moments notice, and with trusted units, to quell any outbreaks of organized violence and the National Police Chief, having come to his senses, can organize enough police to act against random violence. The language coming from the UDD stage is dis-quietening. to say the least.

Good post. I agree, it is very troubling indeed. I hope that the reds will accept the courts' decision regarding YL. All they should focus on is demanding an immediate democratic election and not accepting any unelected council or leadership. Impeaching YL, whether right or wrong, at this point is not taking away the rights of the people and is not worth fighting a war for. Being denied to elect a leader, however, is a huge infringement on the people's rights and is worth rising up and fighting against if that is denied them. Don't get me wrong, reforms need to happen, but they need to happen democratically by all parties and not by one side (either side) commandeering the country.

[AleG]

Hilarious. But at least you are explicit in your rejection of democracy. A true tory.

Seeing the BIG disadvantage and the abuse of democracy does not mean to reject it -

but if I knew a better form of government I would for sure reject democracy.

Until then power to the people - but first make sure they are decent and know what they are doing.

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote, or know enough to vote? You? Suthep? Please define how you will achieve this laudable goal. Then we will know what steps must be taken to ensure that at some date in the future the majority of the people of Thailand can be allowed to choose their own leaders.

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote

Indirectly, the courts using the laws of the land; if the people in their ignorance elect someone who is on it to steal and amass power for themselves and their cronies it is the duty of the courts to prosecute and if proven to be guilty, sentence those elected.

Of course they are going to be screaming "judicial coup!" to try and legitimize their corruption. Nixon (among others) must be kicking his ectoplasmic bum for not coming up with that spin.

Besides there are already some minimum requirements to be eligible for office, not being a convicted criminal is one of them, of course some become criminals (at least visibly so) during office, so that's what independent agencies and courts are for.

[davidmann]

do the people of thailand know they could have a rich country good school ,good medical care ,pension for the old ,good wages ,if they where not being roped by the people in power ,

[sweatalot]

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote ?

yes that's the big problem - unsolved unfortunately and part of the disadvantage

It is neither my job nor my intention to tell who is to determine that.

Plato wrote something about that.

We have to be clear that all the so called democracies in the world are far from being ideal.

Taking care for an effective independent educational system which includes ethics and is free available for everyone could be a step closer to ideal democracy.

[In Town]

Hilarious. But at least you are explicit in your rejection of democracy. A true tory.

Seeing the BIG disadvantage and the abuse of democracy does not mean to reject it -

but if I knew a better form of government I would for sure reject democracy.

Until then power to the people - but first make sure they are decent and know what they are doing.

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote, or know enough to vote? You? Suthep? Please define how you will achieve this laudable goal. Then we will know what steps must be taken to ensure that at some date in the future the majority of the people of Thailand can be allowed to choose their own leaders.

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote

Indirectly, the courts using the laws of the land; if the people in their ignorance elect someone who is on it to steal and amass power for themselves and their cronies it is the duty of the courts to prosecute and if proven to be guilty, sentence those elected.

Of course they are going to be screaming "judicial coup!" to try and legitimize their corruption. Nixon (among others) must be kicking his ectoplasmic bum for not coming up with that spin.

Besides there are already some minimum requirements to be eligible for office, not being a convicted criminal is one of them, of course some become criminals (at least visibly so) during office, so that's what independent agencies and courts are for.

What do the courts have to do with whether or not uneducated people will be allowed to vote?

[AleG]

And who is to determine if they are decent enough to vote

Indirectly, the courts using the laws of the land; if the people in their ignorance elect someone who is on it to steal and amass power for themselves and their cronies it is the duty of the courts to prosecute and if proven to be guilty, sentence those elected.

Of course they are going to be screaming "judicial coup!" to try and legitimize their corruption. Nixon (among others) must be kicking his ectoplasmic bum for not coming up with that spin.

Besides there are already some minimum requirements to be eligible for office, not being a convicted criminal is one of them, of course some become criminals (at least visibly so) during office, so that's what independent agencies and courts are for.

What do the courts have to do with whether or not uneducated people will be allowed to vote?

That if uneducated people vote for criminals the courts are there to remove them, which depending on one's level of intellectual honesty means either "Those damn elites stole my vote!" or "good, one less crook to screw us".

[Ricardo]

Thanks to FB for posting the detail of the hamster's broadcast, that was useful & interesting, an excellent example of political propaganda to the (shrunken) masses from their Big Boss.

Karma will get him eventually, meanwhile he's doubtless being very well paid, for the tripe he dishes up. Shameless sums it up, for me.

And both Jatupon & Suthep are now shown to have only a relatively-few followers left, time perhaps for talks & a new election, to move things forward again ?

[BeforeTigers]

Well here's a here's a good control group for a little experiement;
We all know the grenades fall like clockwork a Yellow gatherings. Let's keep a tally for how many land when the Reds are in town. Put this whole "third-hand" hypothesis to the test.

[looping]

UDD= Uneducated Dickheads for Dictatorship.

Sorry could resist a quick resist a quick change of that anagram to make it more accurate.

Anyone else?

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[In Town]

Well here's a here's a good control group for a little experiement;

We all know the grenades fall like clockwork a Yellow gatherings. Let's keep a tally for how many land when the Reds are in town. Put this whole "third-hand" hypothesis to the test.

Very few, since it is the yellows who throw the grenades at their own rallies, trying to convince someone, anyone, that the country is in chaos and the military must intervene. Didn't work though, so they seem to have called the fellows back to the barracks.

[In Town]

UDD= Uneducated Dickheads for Dictatorship.

Sorry could resist a quick resist a quick change of that anagram to make it more accurate.

Anyone else?

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Wow! You are so intelligent. And such a poet! Great to know that the democrats have people of such towering stature on their side.

[JAG]

when you have leaders standing on a stage stating they are going to overthrow the justice system - the courts - the law - the very backbone of democracy then they should be arrested, not to mention most of these thugs are out on bail and should be in jail anyway

and some of them are MP's

Talking about backbones of democracy, I seem to remember a legally called constitutionally empowered election being blocked oh, about a month or so ago. No outrage from you fine stalwarts of democracy then?

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[rametindallas]

The language of 'we don't want a civil but there will be one if we don't agree with the verdict of the court' is very troubling on many levels. The implicit violence, the threat to the independence of the court system, the 'Suthep is undemocratic so we will be undemocratic' is intimidating. I'm don't want to be in Bangkok when the shit hits the fan but may have no choice. There really is no defense when a mob has been enraged and is turned loose on the general populace. I expect random as well as organized acts of violence if certain court decisions are not to Thaksin's liking. He's backed into a corner and like most animals backed into a corner, the viciousness knows no bounds. Years of hate speech have brainwashed many to the point where a little nudge and they are not responsible for their actions.

If this degenerates into a civil war, and it is fought in Bangkok, everyone will lose as the death toll will be very high and the property destruction and loss of business will be astronomical. I sincerely hope the army is ready, at a moments notice, and with trusted units, to quell any outbreaks of organized violence and the National Police Chief, having come to his senses, can organize enough police to act against random violence. The language coming from the UDD stage is dis-quietening. to say the least.

Good post. I agree, it is very troubling indeed. I hope that the reds will accept the courts' decision regarding YL. All they should focus on is demanding an immediate democratic election and not accepting any unelected council or leadership. Impeaching YL, whether right or wrong, at this point is not taking away the rights of the people and is not worth fighting a war for. Being denied to elect a leader, however, is a huge infringement on the people's rights and is worth rising up and fighting against if that is denied them. Don't get me wrong, reforms need to happen, but they need to happen democratically by all parties and not by one side (either side) commandeering the country.

Thanks for meeting me half-way. I am no fan of Suthep nor of his nebulous unelected, 'temporary' government. It's too bad the country hasn't been working on reform since Parliament was dissolved or, if you are a PTP supporter, reforms should have begun sooner, while the PTP still had power to influence the reform. As it stands now, the only power PTP has is through the UDD and the UDD only has the power of intimidation. I could be a whole lot more supportive of the cause of the NE rural people (first wife Yasothon) if they were represented by a stubborn, Gandhi like organization that achieved its goals without all the violent rhetoric. Here in the US South, Dr. Martin Luther King led a largely peaceful revolution in the treatment of people of color. I fully agree that the rural people are under represented in the power structure of Thailand but that has a lot to do with the client/patron hierarchy that I don't have time to go in to on this forum. The UDD is not representing the people they say/think they are representing. The UDD is creating an, us vs. them, North vs. South, well-to-do vs. poor, city vs. rural, atmosphere that does not lead to peaceful resolution of their very real problems. If Thaksin, and his cult of personality, were out of the picture, I would be on this forum supporting the rural people of Thailand against the old-line, corrupt power base that controls the economy, education, and society. Thaksin is not the alternative to the Amataya.

[rametindallas]

“Only the dead have seen the end of war.”

Only the dead have seen the end of war - George Santayana

[bulekee]

I hear white flags are selling at a premium.Promotion 500,000 % discount.Buy 1 get xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx free.

[bigbamboo]

What happened to the 200,000 to 500,000 they were quoting as their expected number of protesters. It seems that either Thaksin is tired if paying them or the people are tired of supporting a corrupt gov. I guess YL messed up pretty bad when she failed to pay the farmers.

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Well they would have got their 200000 maybe even 500000 but their counter-in-chief didn't show up either. That meant there were no 'official' figures and people were able to estimate the numbers instead.

I believe in the trade it's known as 'Kittirat's' Nightmare'

[AleG]

Well here's a here's a good control group for a little experiement;

We all know the grenades fall like clockwork a Yellow gatherings. Let's keep a tally for how many land when the Reds are in town. Put this whole "third-hand" hypothesis to the test.

Very few, since it is the yellows who throw the grenades at their own rallies, trying to convince someone, anyone, that the country is in chaos and the military must intervene. Didn't work though, so they seem to have called the fellows back to the barracks.

A week or so ago after an M-79 attack against the NACC a group of Red Shirts were caught in possesion of, among other weapons, grenades with the same lot numbers as those used agains anti-government protestors. In other words, stop making up lies.

[Skywalker69]

"...in order to achieve the pro-government group’s goals.....Thai Red Shirts vow 'final fight' to defend Yingluck....show of support for the crisis-mired premier"

The above quotes, all a subtle put-down of the event being reported upon.

>Pro-Government? - Wrong..Pro-Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy

>"group"?.....Those representing the electoral majority gathering in their thousands, are a "group"?

>"Defending Yingluck"?...The old PAD-Dem mantra of trying to separate her and the PTP from its majority electoral base...They are not defending 'Yingluck"...They are defending their votes and the Govt. they selected. The anti-democrats are up against an electoral majority...Not Yingluck.

>"Crisis-mired premier"?.....Coup-intended unelectable political forces do not 'mire a premier?....Advocating their anti-democratic vision does not reflect badly on a premier as this quote implies....Quite the reverse if one thinks it through.

The following comments by Amsterdam to the rally last night give an insight to what is transpiring at that event. Some paraphrasing those comments here:

• Suthep is disqualified from using the word “Reform”
• Av is disqualified from using the word “Democracy
• Const. Court is disqualified from calling itself a “court”
• Prayuth cannot speak about “Peace”
• The HRC must not define Human Rights for Thailand.
• We are getting tired of a permanent coup of the DP and Army against law.
• Time for the PTP Govt. to quit obstructing the Thailand’s case at the ICC
• The coup we face now, is a continuation of the violence of 2010
• The essential reform that needs to occur is a return to the constitution of 1997
• No reform is possible without reform of the Thai military.
• Who does Prayuth think he is, lecturing us about democracy and Government.
• Have any Red Shirts voted for Prayuth?
• Since when is Prayuth a Minister of the Government.
• The rule of law must be reformed in Thailand
• Reforming the rule of law is not just a Red Shirt issue. But that of Thailand as a whole. All parties must recognize past mistakes.
• Many people ask, “How can we change Thailand”?
• Simple way…Stop drinking beer…boycott other entities engaged in anti-democratic activism.
• Have to ask the DP how is it that two men accused of murder, can lead change and reform
• What is it about Thailand that people charged with murder can block people from voting.
• Call the PDRC what they truly are…They are Thailand’s Taliban and must be stopped.
• The Thai Taliban is more dangerous because the West does not understand who they are.
• We are continuing representations to the Geneva Inter-Parliamentary Union.
• We will seek to condemn the CC over section 232 regarding ‘collective guilt’. Hearings have been scheduled.
• We will take international action here, regarding the CC and NACC.
• This International intervention only a beginning.
• I recognize all of those gathered here and Red Shirts everywhere in Thailand, that we are at a serious moment of Thai history. For that reason we begin new initiatives in the International arena.
• We intend to place International sanctions against individual members of the anti-democratic networks.
• May take months or years, but intend to list members of Independent Organizations who are thwarting Democracy in Thailand.
• We will ask Western Govts. To seize assets and prevent anti-democratic functionaries from leaving Thailand. Will severely curtail AV’s frequent trips to London.
• Red Shirts need to remember, they are not alone in their battle for Democracy.
• In the coming weeks, the DP will attempt to seize power, because they cannot win an election.
• The only enemy the Thai army can defeat is democracy and justice.
• We need to understand that the army and DP are watching to see the size and scope of every RS demonstration.
• I salute you for coming this weekend and my prayers are with you during this dark chapter of Thai history.

What a pure load of sh*t. Did you get that directly from Mr Amsterdam?

[Baerboxer]

Yes, I'm for Thaksin getting any form of justice. Also, Suthep, Abhisit, and a host of others.

That's fine - as long as you remember justice is being tried in accordance with the law, and respecting the verdict.

It's not what your opinions happen to be, or only justice if they find in favour of those you support.

He was tried and convicted and sentenced, He chose to flee and become a fugitive rather than appeal. Look at the facts of that case and the facts surrounding the changed tax laws to avoid paying tax.

[JRSoul]

Amsterdam is brilliant. He describes Thai democrats struggling to overcome the oppression of rich fat cats who bend the law for their own interest. Your only response is "Thaksin". If Thaksin and all his kin were gone would it then be okay with you if the red shirts elected someone else (they are the majority, after all)? I doubt it. Their candidate would then be "follower of Thaksin" or "successor of Thaksin". No matter what, you will never be happy with majority rule, because it will always return someone who doesn't agree with your selfish desire to exploit the poor.

The problem with democracy is, that it works as it should only, when the majority is decent and well educated,

if this is not the case we will always have a ruling of the lower educated or indecent masses

Hilarious. But at least you are explicit in your rejection of democracy. A true tory.

On the contrary, the basis of a successful democracy is an informed and educated population able to make rational decisions and not be swayed by baseless propaganda. Though Churchill is the most often quoted on this subject, I have previously posted quotes from JFK and FDR that support that position - neither are "Tories".

[JRSoul]

This is wrong in so many many ways. But first, is there any evidence that increased education leads to better political decision-making?

Most of the people in Thailand have a high school education, so I guess you want to limit the vote to people with Bachelor degrees? Or Masters? Or Phd? Its a great idea, and if you can implement it you will make Thailand the only country on earth with an education requirement to vote.

Your analogy reveals your preference for paternalistic rule. Father should direct all. Since men are better educated than women, do you also think women should not be allowed to vote. In Great Britain and America coloured people and immigrants are less educated than white or native people, so I guess they should not be allowed to vote either.

Your proto-faschist corporatist agenda is clear. Rule by the rich and elite. And don't say Thaksn is rich and elite as well, because vitually every elected leader on earth is rich and elite. The difference between them and Suthep is that they have actually been able to convince the people to elect them based on merit, while Suthep seeks office at the point of a gun, and has to repress the masses along the way.

Do you really believe that the majority of Thais are well educated, that their high school diploma is worth the paper it is printed on? Where is the media free to criticise governments and individual politicians' action to adequately inform the people about those purporting/desiring to represent them?

BTW your self-serving strawman arguments are puerile, as are the insults that you base on them.

[Malone]

This is a picture of Mr. Amsterdam:

This is how the Red shirt protest site looks this morning:

By the way, this picture shows the "RED" spirit!!!

But in Thai law, foreigner are not allow to participate political rally.......double standard for Amsterdam.....?

In addition to the ambulance chaser lawyer Amsterdam, that also applies to the thousands of hired Burmese at the Thai Red Shirt rally.

[Malone]

Well here's a here's a good control group for a little experiement;

We all know the grenades fall like clockwork a Yellow gatherings. Let's keep a tally for how many land when the Reds are in town. Put this whole "third-hand" hypothesis to the test.

Very few, since it is the yellows who throw the grenades at their own rallies, trying to convince someone, anyone, that the country is in chaos and the military must intervene.

Pure unadulterated BS without a shred of evidence.

[looping]

UDD= Uneducated Dickheads for Dictatorship.

Sorry could resist a quick resist a quick change of that anagram to make it more accurate.

Anyone else?

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Wow! You are so intelligent. And such a poet! Great to know that the democrats have people of such towering stature on their side.

Thanks, it's a talent indeed

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[billd766]

Well here's a here's a good control group for a little experiement;

We all know the grenades fall like clockwork a Yellow gatherings. Let's keep a tally for how many land when the Reds are in town. Put this whole "third-hand" hypothesis to the test.

Very few, since it is the yellows who throw the grenades at their own rallies, trying to convince someone, anyone, that the country is in chaos and the military must intervene. Didn't work though, so they seem to have called the fellows back to the barracks.

You bore me with your assertations.

Do YOU have ANY shred of proof of what you have just written?

Any physical evidence, photos, links at all?

If you do please publish them so that all the world can see how smart and clever you are.

If you do NOT or CANNOT provide any such proof please cease and desist from posting falsehoods and outright lies.

YOU said it and the onus of proff is on you, nobody else.

[Skywalker69]

Amsterdam is brilliant. He describes Thai democrats struggling to overcome the oppression of rich fat cats who bend the law for their own interest. Your only response is "Thaksin". If Thaksin and all his kin were gone would it then be okay with you if the red shirts elected someone else (they are the majority, after all)? I doubt it. Their candidate would then be "follower of Thaksin" or "successor of Thaksin". No matter what, you will never be happy with majority rule, because it will always return someone who doesn't agree with your selfish desire to exploit the poor.

And what was your other nic before you was banned?

As only a mother could love Mr. Amsterdam are you............?

He describes Thai democrats struggling to overcome the oppression of rich fat cats who bend the law for their own interest

Are you sure he don´t describes PTP?

Edited April 8, 2014 by Skywalker69

[northernjohn]

The language of 'we don't want a civil but there will be one if we don't agree with the verdict of the court' is very troubling on many levels. The implicit violence, the threat to the independence of the court system, the 'Suthep is undemocratic so we will be undemocratic' is intimidating. I'm don't want to be in Bangkok when the shit hits the fan but may have no choice. There really is no defense when a mob has been enraged and is turned loose on the general populace. I expect random as well as organized acts of violence if certain court decisions are not to Thaksin's liking. He's backed into a corner and like most animals backed into a corner, the viciousness knows no bounds. Years of hate speech have brainwashed many to the point where a little nudge and they are not responsible for their actions.

If this degenerates into a civil war, and it is fought in Bangkok, everyone will lose as the death toll will be very high and the property destruction and loss of business will be astronomical. I sincerely hope the army is ready, at a moments notice, and with trusted units, to quell any outbreaks of organized violence and the National Police Chief, having come to his senses, can organize enough police to act against random violence. The language coming from the UDD stage is dis-quietening. to say the least.

Good post. I agree, it is very troubling indeed. I hope that the reds will accept the courts' decision regarding YL. All they should focus on is demanding an immediate democratic election and not accepting any unelected council or leadership. Impeaching YL, whether right or wrong, at this point is not taking away the rights of the people and is not worth fighting a war for. Being denied to elect a leader, however, is a huge infringement on the people's rights and is worth rising up and fighting against if that is denied them. Don't get me wrong, reforms need to happen, but they need to happen democratically by all parties and not by one side (either side) commandeering the country.

I disagree. If an election is held makes no difference who wins the reforms will be slanted to benefit them. That is why they need a non partisan council to make the recommendations for reform with no chance of intimidation from a partial government. It may be and is undemocratic but the army should be given the right to halt any red shirt attempt at intimidation. Also the rite to seek out the offenders as it seems the Police are not up to the job. there is an area that needs attention also.

Like Abhist said it will require legislation to make some of the changes in the way things are done but there can be safeguards enacted before an election. Given the current political climate if Yingluck is removed from office I doubt very mich the Senate would select some one with political bias to be the P M.

Democracy is a great thing but it has to be protected and to do that it takes guidelines. It is not as if the people were being denied their right to vote. It is just being delayed until they will have an open and honest chance to select their candidate. I am asking to much I know for all of them to understand what is at stake but when it is all worked out there will be enough who understand the need for change in certain areas.

For myself I prefer a united happy Thailand to Democracy. As Democracy is practiced here today that is some thing that will never come about unless there is a drastic change. Properly administered Democracy will serve every one. Some will complain as they are greedy and want what corruption and crime will bring them. That is just human nature to have those type people in any country in the world.