What's The Lowest DDR Memory To Run Windows 7?

[scooterboy]

Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

[sirchai]

Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

Okay, I'd changed the motherboard before, hard drives, memory sticks, DVD player and more.

I remember that I had a Celeron D processor and replaced it by a Pentium 4, which seemed to improve speed.

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

Edited April 11, 2014 by sirchai

[RichCor]

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

[...]

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

If the machine was running fine before then the place to start is with what changed.

In your case, you changed the OS and added a new memory module. Either could be responsible for the reset but OS errors normally throw a blue screen (but not always) while hardware issues can directly cause the processor to reset.

My guess would be the new memory module.

If you removed a 256MB module to put the 1GB in, try taking the 1GB out and put the 256MB in and see if it still resets.

[sirchai]

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

[...]

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

If the machine was running fine before then the place to start is with what changed.

In your case, you changed the OS and added a new memory module. Either could be responsible for the reset but OS errors normally throw a blue screen (but not always) while hardware issues can directly cause the processor to reset.

My guess would be the new memory module.

If you removed a 256MB module to put the 1GB in, try taking the 1GB out and put the 256MB in and see if it still resets.

I put a new program on and I'm certain that the memory card I had changed after putting Windows on had caused such a failure. Yep, I had one 512 and another 256 MB before. Replaced the small card with a one GB and will see.

Thanks again for your great help and yes, it always crashed with a blue screen. I don't really know how it worked before with XP, as my son was using it.

Will report soon....Cheers-

[Jiu-Jitsu]

^ Funny that.

Win 7 pro see's 4 sticks of 8 gb ram on my machine.

Then it's the 64 bit version.

The first Celeron D was introduced less than ten years ago and the latest, eight years ago. But I know that you don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Do you really wanna call me a liar? I bought the PC about 12 years ago and it was second hand, used by a Dutch guy.

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Either a liar or a bit dopey.

You wrote "The PC I'm talking about is at least 15 years old. I remember that I had upgraded it from Celeron D to Pentium 4 a few years ago."

[Jiu-Jitsu]

Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

Okay, I'd changed the motherboard before, hard drives, memory sticks, DVD player and more.

I remember that I had a Celeron D processor and replaced it by a Pentium 4, which seemed to improve speed.

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

Look here and when it happens again you can take note of the Error Codes.

[sirchai]

Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

Okay, I'd changed the motherboard before, hard drives, memory sticks, DVD player and more.

I remember that I had a Celeron D processor and replaced it by a Pentium 4, which seemed to improve speed.

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

Look here and when it happens again you can take note of the Error Codes.

Okay, I did change the CPU a few years ago, as the old didn't work anymore. But after the change it turned out that there's nothing wrong with it, as usual.

Please don't nail me on this time frame. The PC is about 13 years old, but was constantly modified. Once with a motherboard that never worked well, but made the shop owner happy to sell me this junk.

I sat there many hours yesterday and today. First I had to go to a computer shop, formatted both drives, as i had already three old systems on.

I also unticked the "automatically restard bow and feel like a retard now. Sitting here way too long now. Headchae. Frustration.

Came home, played W 7 on- again- and many other problems. Kaspy must have found a way to lock me out, but I could bypass and get the one year stamp.

Then again, always some blue screen shutdowns. I worked and worked, while anybody else around me got drunk. Finally I could put most of my programs on, but actually realized that 1.5 GB DDR2 -400 memory should be at least 2 Gb.

It's a bit slow, but still faster than most XP programs.

Have my genuine system again, which also took me a long time to do so. I see it as an exercise and I'm aware that I learn through all mistakes.

Something I did realize, I know more than all the guys who work at computer shops here. If I run a few programs, it can happen that it shuts down, the blue screen and it shows the error message.

Nothing wrong when only running two programs.

Anything to find out where the error could come from? Thanks for your great advice and that you make me feel like a nun here.

[RichCor]

Tracking the problem down is a long, tedious process.

Blue screen errors are commonly caused by memory faults, either incompatible device driver, or hard memory errors.

Three programs running will tax memory, but you can't rule out memory card issues. Also try combinations, Prog 1, 2; Prog 2, 3; Prog 1, 3

There are stress test programs you can download to test everything...

[rhythmworx]

You are running 2 different memory sticks (very bad idea) If its dual channel you need "matched pairs" identical RAM sticks that are tested and sealed in the factory before shipment (same voltage, CAS latencies etc.. they also need to be in the correct memory slots. eg... 1 and 3 or 2 and 4.

If you could post your motherboard model number it could help locate the problem.

Also if it happens again post the number on the BSOD.....may look like 0x000000000124 eg...would indicate a kernel power problem.

You can also try as follows:-

1, the round windows button on left of taskbar....in search box type event...at the top you will see event biewer....click to open it

2. At the side click the Windows Logs tab...then click system

3. you will see thousands of events listed in time order...so scroll down and note the errors and post them back here.

[NeverSure]

Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

Okay, I'd changed the motherboard before, hard drives, memory sticks, DVD player and more.

I remember that I had a Celeron D processor and replaced it by a Pentium 4, which seemed to improve speed.

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers-

Overheating. The box is designed to vent from back to front. Put a couple of more fans in the back and if your box is designed for one, also put one on the side to blow directly onto the cpu.

[NeverSure]

If anyone is still struggling to figure out matching components such as ram or a new cpu, etc. download the free CPU-Z LINK and it will tell you more about the make and model and type of hardware you have than you want to know. It wil even tell you your motherboard make and model and the exact type of ram you have including memory amounts, and lots more.

[rhythmworx]

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Sirchai - how's the Win 7 performing - is it okay and up and running in a stable way? Any probs along the way?

I'm asking as I have an XP machine that I wouldn't mind trying to install Win 7 on - with about 1.5 GB ram..

Thanks

Just finished all my set ups. I bought a 1 GB DDR 2 400 memory and running now on 1.5 GB. Cost of 1GB was 800 baht.

You can easily run the 32 bit version with that memory. I've got 1.5 Gb available, as I've got a 512 MB video card. If you spend 800 baht and upgrade it to 2 GB, which is more efficient. But one of our school computer is even running well on 1 GB, did a good job.

But I just found out that there's another problem, I'll need advice. It sometimes switching off, and restarts which seems to be an electronic problem.

Okay, I'd changed the motherboard before, hard drives, memory sticks, DVD player and more.

I remember that I had a Celeron D processor and replaced it by a Pentium 4, which seemed to improve speed.

Any idea where to look first, as it could be anything from the motherboard to the PCU.

Seems to be pretty tough to find such a problem. Cheers- alt=wai2.gif width=20 height=20>

Overheating. The box is designed to vent from back to front. Put a couple of more fans in the back and if your box is designed for one, also put one on the side to blow directly onto the cpu.

That is not the problem.

Nneither is the struggle to find matching components, we already know his ram is odd and CPUZ wont state what the requirements are for his particular motherboard.

[Somtamnication]

I have two ddr2 800mhz 1 gig chips and two socket 775 duo core cpus. Cheap price if anyone wants them.

Sirchai, did you update the bios on it (even thought it is quite old, still needs the latest one).

If you are getting an occasional power off, it can be one of two things. The power supply is going / not strong enough or the cpu is getting too hot. Bad ram can also be a factor.

[scooterboy]

Errrfffff......think I'll wait a while longer to try my luck. thanks all the same...

Yep, I'm still using XP and no issues of any kind (yet) - everything running smoothly.

Then again, haven't performed any MS updates for 2 (3, maybe?) years......

Bring on the critics!

[sirchai]

I'll shoot myself in my forehead....found the problem, the freaking NIVIDEA video card seems to malfunction from time to time.

Bought from a good friend, who's got a computer shop..(&lt;deleted&gt;)

Now I took it out, connected it directly to the motherboard and it works well. The only problem I'm facing now is the shitty 800 x ?? resolution.

Will have to wait after Songkran to see my Thai electronic guy, he's good and will find the little devil that took three days away of my holiday.

To the poster with his old XP, please feel free to page me, I can give you all you need to be a happy Windows 7 user.

As already mentioned, one of our school computers is running W 7 with only 1 GB of memory smoothly.

Now let's go and get screwed....Cheers-

[sirchai]

I have two ddr2 800mhz 1 gig chips and two socket 775 duo core cpus. Cheap price if anyone wants them.

Sirchai, did you update the bios on it (even thought it is quite old, still needs the latest one).

If you are getting an occasional power off, it can be one of two things. The power supply is going / not strong enough or the cpu is getting too hot. Bad ram can also be a factor.

I'm running two DDR 2-400mhz right now, with 1.5GB of memory. Would the 800 Mhz version work for me?

I'd be more than interested to buy them. Experts, what do you think, does that work?

I thought 800 Mhz are just faster, right? Thanks for any clarification.Cheers-

[sirchai]

I'll shoot myself in my forehead....found the problem, the freaking NIVIDEA video card seems to malfunction from time to time.

Bought from a good friend, who's got a computer shop..(<deleted>)

Now I took it out, connected it directly to the motherboard and it works well. The only problem I'm facing now is the shitty 800 x ?? resolution.

Will have to wait after Songkran to see my Thai electronic guy, he's good and will find the little devil that took three days away of my holiday.

To the poster with his old XP, please feel free to page me, I can give you all you need to be a happy Windows 7 user.

As already mentioned, one of our school computers is running W 7 with only 1 GB of memory smoothly.

Now let's go and get screwed....Cheers-

Made some updates and the machine's working well. Could also change the resolution.

I've realized that 2 Gb of memory would be more than okay for me running the 32 but version.

[sirchai]

Just made this "Crucial Test and found out that I do run two different types of cards. Machine is running well, just want to upgrade to 2 GB, a guy here offers 2 one BG cards, but these are DDR 2 800 Mhz cards. Would that fit into my system?

Any advice would be deeply appreciated.Thanks.

Your System Specs for the P4M266A (2 slots)model.

Scan Id: E30A62E831D926C3

Memory: DDR PC2700, DDR PC3200

Memory Type: DDR PC2700, DDR PC3200, DDR (non-ECC)
Maximum Memory: 2GB
Currently Installed Memory: 1.5GB
Total Memory Slots: 2
Available Memory Slots: 0

1GB

DDR PC3200

512MB

DDR PC3200

Seems that the DDR2 800 won't work. Please see this from Crucial replacement, there's only the 333, or 400 version.

COMPUTER MEMORY

1GB
DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR333 • 2.5V • 128Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT12864Z335

(0 Ratings)

$28.99

QTY:

1GB
DDR PC3200 • CL=3 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 128Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT12864Z40B

(0 Ratings)

$28.99

QTY:

512MB
DDR PC3200 • CL=3 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 64Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT6464Z40B

(0 Ratings)

$16.99

QTY:

512MB
DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR333 • 2.5V • 64Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT6464Z335

(0 Ratings)

$16.99

QTY:

Edited April 14, 2014 by sirchai

[Jiu-Jitsu]

Won't fit nor work. Have you installed the Chipset Drivers? Anything missing within the Device Manager?

[Oreganobag]

My god. That PC is archaic. I can't believe people are still sitting around trying to help you fix your 15 year old junker.

You can buy netbooks for around 5-10k baht, or build your own PC for less than 10,000 baht that will crush this thing, won't give you a headache, and won't have you spending 1000 baht a week trying to fix it. It would be more economical to just go to Pantip, ask around (JediCool on the first floor is where I get everything I need), give them a budget and have them build what they can with it. If you can read Thai, you can get second hand parts and whole PCs for cheap at overclockzone.com.

Also, your VRAM on your GPU has nothing to do with the RAM sticks on your motherboard. VRAM is used solely for displaying graphics. RAM is used for system wide operations. Getting a $1000 graphics card would not help your computer do anything faster - just allow it to display better graphics at a higher frame rate and resolution (That is if everything else in your system wasn't already bottlenecking it).

Donate your PC to some street kid. Get a new system. Thank me later.

[rhythmworx]

The FSB on that motherboard is 266Mhz (133Mhz x 2) AKA PC2100. Any faster ram will only work at 266Mhz bus speed.

[JimShortz]

I believe in keeping relatively old hardware running if it still meets your needs, BUT i'm afraid this machine is at the end of it's useful life and I wouldn't personally want to put any more time or money into it. Sorry.

If you want a cheap way to replace it take a look at the various build options considered in the current thread here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/718662-building-a-low-cost-but-capable-desktop-opinions-sought/

I'm sorry to be telling you that the old girl is terminal, BUT it is time to let her slip away... If you reinstall with XP, or a good Linux distro you could find her a good retirement with someone who has no money to buy!

[rhythmworx]

Them new Intel NUC's look interesting, powerful stuff in a box that just a few inches wide/long.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html

[sirchai]

My god. That PC is archaic. I can't believe people are still sitting around trying to help you fix your 15 year old junker.

You can buy netbooks for around 5-10k baht, or build your own PC for less than 10,000 baht that will crush this thing, won't give you a headache, and won't have you spending 1000 baht a week trying to fix it. It would be more economical to just go to Pantip, ask around (JediCool on the first floor is where I get everything I need), give them a budget and have them build what they can with it. If you can read Thai, you can get second hand parts and whole PCs for cheap at overclockzone.com.

Also, your VRAM on your GPU has nothing to do with the RAM sticks on your motherboard. VRAM is used solely for displaying graphics. RAM is used for system wide operations. Getting a $1000 graphics card would not help your computer do anything faster - just allow it to display better graphics at a higher frame rate and resolution (That is if everything else in your system wasn't already bottlenecking it).

Donate your PC to some street kid. Get a new system. Thank me later.

I'm sorry, but the old lady is back to life. It's not that I really need that old thing, but over the years it gave me so much knowledge about computers that I wanted to give it a try. And as you can see it works well.

Now I've got another "genuine" Windows 7, Kaspersky 2014 Internet sec., 277 days for nil, Nero 12 full version, Unin-staller pro, AVG tune up, a very efficient version (2011), Babylon, Super Hide full, Windows office 2010 full with updates, Acronis back up and restore ( all backed up already)

The machine is running pretty fast, the whole work was mainly made to show my 15 year old son how to make money with computers, as I want him to specialize on that field.

Okay, I had spent too many hours to get the little prick fixed, but I did learn a lot. A good functioning computer, plus more knowledge is a win win situation.

Thanks to all.-

[Jiu-Jitsu]

I'm sure that you haven't taught your son anything other than how to steal software. You did not even know the difference between DDR and DDR2.

If you think that loading unnecessary bloat will somehow make either of you knowledgeable, you should think again.

[JimShortz]

I'm sure that you haven't taught your son anything other than how to steal software. You did not even know the difference between DDR and DDR2.

If you think that loading unnecessary bloat will somehow make either of you knowledgeable, you should think again.

Although I think Jiu-Jitsu is being a bit harsh here, I would add that from the knowledge of computer components that you have shown (or rather, not) through this thread you are probably not the ideal person to be teaching your son too much about computers. I do, however, like you, enjoy this kind of tinkering with my son, and think it is a great thing to do together.

I'm afraid your selection of software including discredited tune-up software (all of this is widely regarded as tosh) and less well regarded antivirus doesn't make your skills in this area look too hot either. IMHO you might be better approaching this with your son from the angle of "I don't know much about this either son, let's see what we can learn together". There's nowt wrong with learning together... ;-)

[sirchai]

I'm sure that you haven't taught your son anything other than how to steal software. You did not even know the difference between DDR and DDR2.

If you think that loading unnecessary bloat will somehow make either of you knowledgeable, you should think again.

Thanks for the flowers. You're right that I didn't know the difference between DDR 1, DDR 2, etc.but don't you agree that we all had started somewhere?

My unnecessary software is also just a test, what works well and what not.

Our son will learn electronics and computer technology soon and all I want is to be a little help for him.

Sorry if you felt a sort of insulted by my posts.

[sirchai]

I'm sure that you haven't taught your son anything other than how to steal software. You did not even know the difference between DDR and DDR2.

If you think that loading unnecessary bloat will somehow make either of you knowledgeable, you should think again.

Although I think Jiu-Jitsu is being a bit harsh here, I would add that from the knowledge of computer components that you have shown (or rather, not) through this thread you are probably not the ideal person to be teaching your son too much about computers. I do, however, like you, enjoy this kind of tinkering with my son, and think it is a great thing to do together.

I'm afraid your selection of software including discredited tune-up software (all of this is widely regarded as tosh) and less well regarded antivirus doesn't make your skills in this area look too hot either. IMHO you might be better approaching this with your son from the angle of "I don't know much about this either son, let's see what we can learn together". There's nowt wrong with learning together... ;-)

Thanks a lot for your truest opinion regarding my computer skills. I'm usually only using programs to create lesson plans, slideshows, etc....

But this particular PC was challenging my intelligence and made me understand a lot more.

Our son will go to the technical college soon and wants to learn all about computers and I'm only trying to support him, as all is in English.

Fact is that I know more about soft and hardware now, than anybody who's working at our computer shops.

Sorry, if my posts had caused you any inconvenience.

[JimShortz]

Thanks a lot for your truest opinion regarding my computer skills. I'm usually only using programs to create lesson plans, slideshows, etc....

But this particular PC was challenging my intelligence and made me understand a lot more.

Our son will go to the technical college soon and wants to learn all about computers and I'm only trying to support him, as all is in English.

Fact is that I know more about soft and hardware now, than anybody who's working at our computer shops.

Sorry, if my posts had caused you any inconvenience.

I'm sorry if I offended you sirchai - in retrospect I should have probably kept my mouth shut...

Good luck with the computer tinkering and helping your son out. Sorry!

[sirchai]

Thanks a lot for your truest opinion regarding my computer skills. I'm usually only using programs to create lesson plans, slideshows, etc....

But this particular PC was challenging my intelligence and made me understand a lot more.

Our son will go to the technical college soon and wants to learn all about computers and I'm only trying to support him, as all is in English.

Fact is that I know more about soft and hardware now, than anybody who's working at our computer shops.

Sorry, if my posts had caused you any inconvenience.

I'm sorry if I offended you sirchai - in retrospect I should have probably kept my mouth shut...

Good luck with the computer tinkering and helping your son out. Sorry!

I guess I have to apologize. If computers would be my only field, I'd be more than happy. I'm teaching English at a strange primary school, I know how to fix computer controlled cars, thus having gained enough knowledge to put on new programs, seems to be okay for me now.

I never said that I'd be very good in IT, but I'm still learning through mistakes, the best way for me.

Not everybody is perfect. I know so many people who can't even create a PowerPoint slideshow. Not mentioning any details about memory, or video cards.

This was computer number seven, where I had put on all needed programs running on Windows 7. All of them work perfect.

And regarding piracy, all our school computers were also done by me. If not Thais would have messed it up with programs that already have Trojans and other horseshit on their installation CD.

As I said, nobody is perfect. I know much more about teaching, big bikes, trouble shooting at cars, etc..

Wish you a good time and thanks for your useful tips.-

Edited April 17, 2014 by sirchai