Popular Post Jimjim1968 Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 I do my very best to refuse plastic bags in shops here to do my little bit to help, but I am dumbfounded by the amount of bags, spoons and straws dished out in the shops. Is receiving this amount of plastic some kind of pride thing for shopping? Following from this, and especially after Songkhan is the litter by the sides of the roads. Norrmally, there is a lot, the amount I saw earlier this week was saddening. Most times when I go out on my bike I see someone tossing a plastic coffee cup onto the road. I want to beep and shake my fist, but I am very aware and scared of getting into any kind of arguement with a Thai. Doesn't anyone in this country ever decide to raise the issue of litter? The place is a trash heap and no one batts an eye. I did stop one boy in the school where I work who had just dropped a plastic water bottle in the car park. The anger and reluctance he displayed as I repeated "Pick it up!" in Thai was scarey. It was only because his friends prompted him that he did in fact pick it up and slammed it into the nearby bin with some force. Most of the time I get laughed at when I try to encourage not to drop litter. They say its bad but do it anyway. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The litter you see is the smallest problem.....The chemical waste the factories dump into the sea is much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. they love animals....nothing wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuuDaeng Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The litter you see is the smallest problem.....The chemical waste the factories dump into the sea is much worse.I don't agree; the litter we see and can actually reduce easily without any excuses is most important in the beginning. And it alsomatters, not only waste that "big players" produce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wat dee Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Always funny when westerners accuse third world countries for over spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It is a mental attitude,as i have stated many time before when a Thai drops a peice of litter for them it ceases to exist,what is needed is an education programme in schools on the television,billboards etc,in time things may change,or at least improve, but as there is no money in it for corrupt politicians i doubt it , i regularly pick up garbage from around my property,and told off two boys who bought ice creams and my wife's shop and threw the wrappers on the ground,they soon picked them up and put them in the bin right next to them,but the plastic bag well it's a horrible scourge a one baht for every bag would help,but i am afraid any revenue this creates would simply dissapear,yet Thai people love their country,but don't seem to understand they are turning it into a massive garbage tip, only education of the younger generation will solve this but sadly with all the other issue's the country faces i hold no great hope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautilus05 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I have no idea what this whole thing about plastic bags is. Even when you just buy a small bottle of water, they'll try to give you two bags and a straw with it. Every time I goto one of the stores or go grocery shopping, I just pack my duffel bag with me now, tell the clerk I don't want any bags, and I just throw my stuff into the duffel bag. I have about a 4 year supply here as is probably, so I'm good for plastic bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StatlerandWaldorf Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 I recently bought a box of baby formula and a "SAY NO TO PLASTIC BAG" reusable shopping bag in Big C, they put the box of formula into a plastic carrier bag, then to top it all, the packing lady folded up my reusable bag which I purchased and put it into another plastic bag! un xxxxxx believable. Of course I removed both items from the bags and showed her how to put the box inside the reusable bag. She looked bewildered. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 If you are upset with the Thais disregard for cleanliness...you will be shocked if you visit Cambodia...garbage everywhere...and it appears that the Cambodians are oblivious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlcart Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 just got back from jomtien, every time i went out in the water i put whatever trash i saw floating by in my pocket and brought it back to shore. I easily filled up a garbage can. I don't care if it is Thai or Western, I agree with the OP, reducing plastic is such an easy thing to do. If every person in Thailand just used on less bag per week, that would save 400 million bags a year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. A dustbin in Thailand???????? (apart from 7-11s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. they love animals....nothing wrong with that When did ants and cockroaches become animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I find the plastic bags useful and reuse them in waste paper bins throughout the house. None of them go to waste so they are all used twice. If they didn't give them out with my shopping all the time I would go out and buy them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. I guess I'm the only one. My wife is a neat and clean freak. She gets home from working 12 hours and sweeps and mops. She says I don't do it to her satisfaction. I do the dishes. If she finds a spec on a glass or plate she re washes it. We have 7 brooms and 4 mops and she uses them all. Her family is the same way. They are not high society. Her father was a government employee and her mother made beer for the village. I've never lived with a dirty Thai woman and I've lived with a few. Our homes have always been clean. I feel for all you guys but didn't you know before you married them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuuDaeng Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. I guess I'm the only one. My wife is a neat and clean freak. She gets home from working 12 hours and sweeps and mops. She says I don't do it to her satisfaction. I do the dishes. If she finds a spec on a glass or plate she re washes it. We have 7 brooms and 4 mops and she uses them all. Her family is the same way. They are not high society. Her father was a government employee and her mother made beer for the village. I've never lived with a dirty Thai woman and I've lived with a few. Our homes have always been clean. I feel for all you guys but didn't you know before you married them? Yep, homes are clean, clothes smell good and hair is like on commercials (everything nice except yard or street where we just throw all the garbage from window. Seen it as everyone of us; to the very own yard, or to the corridor of condominium. Three times a day room cleaning, and all the s*it just out of door or window. And there is the s*it, from napkins to food left overs, three times a day at least...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo88 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 To start to make a difference, and assuming you don't speak Thai, you could do something like this: Assume that you're checking out at the grocery store and the cashier has just put your groceries into far too many plastic bags. Then before you leave, and while still occupying the "space", start re-packing the groceries into the minimum amount of bags actually needed (often only one). Then smile nicely to her/him and leave with your stuff, giving the extra plastic bags back to her/him to use for the next customer. This may sound a bit cruel, but since they clearly had to do some extra work, the message will in fact take effect extra well. If to begin with, all "farangs" do this, then the cashier staff will eventually start packing less bags at least for farangs. Then you could convince/educate your gf/wifes to do the same etc. Well at least it is a start, better than nothing. (Of course if you speak Thai, you should simply request beforehand how many (few) bags should be used.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Outside trash cans/bins are hard to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yes indeed, just like the UK 50years ago. Plenty of bins around Buriram. Sent from my GT-S7500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showbags Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 To start to make a difference, and assuming you don't speak Thai, you could do something like this: Assume that you're checking out at the grocery store and the cashier has just put your groceries into far too many plastic bags. Then before you leave, and while still occupying the "space", start re-packing the groceries into the minimum amount of bags actually needed (often only one). Then smile nicely to her/him and leave with your stuff, giving the extra plastic bags back to her/him to use for the next customer. This may sound a bit cruel, but since they clearly had to do some extra work, the message will in fact take effect extra well. If to begin with, all "farangs" do this, then the cashier staff will eventually start packing less bags at least for farangs. Then you could convince/educate your gf/wifes to do the same etc. Well at least it is a start, better than nothing. (Of course if you speak Thai, you should simply request beforehand how many (few) bags should be used.) Your assumptions are wrong. You assume a measure of thinking and learning in process. I have done what you mention many times, often when forgetting to bring another bag along and more often just taking 1 or 2 times out and carrying them out with no bag at all....however, on more than one occasions, the bag I have handed back was then simply thrown in the bin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 the burning of all that useless crap afterwards is what concerns me as thai people dont care about environment or neighbourghs getting there cancerous smoke they get rid of their trash and not their problem anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Most times when I go out on my bike I see someone tossing a plastic coffee cup onto the road. I want to beep and shake my fist, but I am very aware and scared of getting into any kind of arguement with a Thai. Why don't you go back and complain about things in your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 When the cashier starts to place my 1 or 2 items in a plastic bag I say, "mai ao tung krup." (Not want bag) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrad Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I agree with marko kok prong when he says that Thais love their country, or so they steadfastly believe and affirm. But one could question a Thai, and ask if they really do love their country. It could be pointed out that if they really loved their country they would take pride in how it looks, and not treat it like a garbage dump. And it's not only that it's a ubiquitous eyesore, but it's also a danger to animals, whether on land or in the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I got a t-shirt printed. 'I don't like plastic'. Helps when they insist on not understanding. Sent from my GT-S7500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo88 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 To start to make a difference, and assuming you don't speak Thai, you could do something like this: Assume that you're checking out at the grocery store and the cashier has just put your groceries into far too many plastic bags. Then before you leave, and while still occupying the "space", start re-packing the groceries into the minimum amount of bags actually needed (often only one). Then smile nicely to her/him and leave with your stuff, giving the extra plastic bags back to her/him to use for the next customer. This may sound a bit cruel, but since they clearly had to do some extra work, the message will in fact take effect extra well. If to begin with, all "farangs" do this, then the cashier staff will eventually start packing less bags at least for farangs. Then you could convince/educate your gf/wifes to do the same etc. Well at least it is a start, better than nothing. (Of course if you speak Thai, you should simply request beforehand how many (few) bags should be used.) Your assumptions are wrong. You assume a measure of thinking and learning in process. I have done what you mention many times, often when forgetting to bring another bag along and more often just taking 1 or 2 times out and carrying them out with no bag at all....however, on more than one occasions, the bag I have handed back was then simply thrown in the bin. Well, I guess I'm perhaps more optimistic about Thai people's learning abilities. In fact, I've already noticed some difference at my store, as some of the staff recognize me and use less bags. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faranguy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Things are starting to improve here. 7-11 is beginning a process to reduce plastic bag use. The schools are beginning to emphasis ecology. It is a matter of education. It takes time so in the meantime be patient, courteous and be a quiet, considerate (to the 7-11 employee as well) role model Go to a science fair at any school and look at the number of environmental projects. It is a big thing. And it is true that most Thai women are much cleaner with their bodies and their homes than most of us farangs. I never showered 2 times a day until I married a Thai. Mind you I am from a very cold country where our motto is "there's no sweat in the North". I just wish I could convince Thai politicians not to argue by insulting each other. Humour is much more effective. Did you hear that Sudhep and Yingluck went out for dinner last weekend? Things went very well until Sudhep ordered kapow lameduck and Yingluck said she preferred fuk somyong gai. Then guess what man in black showed up? Darth waiter! May the farce be with you. arghh...sorry about that. HAVE A NICE DAY! TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 ""Most times when I go out on my bike I see someone tossing a plastic coffee cup onto the road. I want to beep and shake my fist, but I am very aware and scared of getting into any kind of arguement with a Thai."" Why don't you go back and complain about things in your country? Mr.Mrs.Ms. Sirchai, I guess you are Thai. Right ? The issue is not to critisise Thai people. It is about improving the Thai environment. How can you expect Thailand to be a top tourist destination for the so called Quality Tourists when the country looks like a garbage disposal everywhere ? Would you not be proud if Farangs from all over the world would praise Thailand for its cleanliness ? I see many areas in Thailand are so clean. It can be done everywhere. Go to Singapore, go to Japan, go to HongKong, see how they can keep places clean. Why don't you go back and teach your friends, children, family and all your country people about avoiding garbage ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneytulip Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 When I was in Bangkok last month I purchased a takeaway coffee and travelled on the MRT and then changed to the Skytrain. All the while I was looking for a rubbish bin for my cup but couldn't find one until I got inside Siam Paragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 OP, they treat the environment as they treat their own houses. Can't speak for the rest of Thailand but where I live in Issan kids and grownups have no idea of what a dustbin is. Just throw everything on the floor. May be they are concerned about feeding the ants and cockroaches. they love animals....nothing wrong with that When did ants and cockroaches become animals? https://www.google.com/search?q=are+insects+animals%3F&oq=are+insects+animals%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57.6497j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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