Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

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Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election



BANGKOK, 21 April 2014 (NNT) –The Pheu Thai Party has expressed a standpoint supporting an election to eliminate conflicts. It has challenged its rival, the Democrat Party, to run for election under democratic principals.

As the current situation could possibly lead to greater political chaos, an election is the only solution to expel those groups and some political parties accused of ignoring democratic principals, which will ultimately damage the country and incite hatred among people.

An election is the only process to return political decision making to the people under provisions of the law, said Mr. Pokin Polakul, of the party's strategic committee, and Mr. Phumtham Wechayachai, the party’s secretary.

However, the Pheu Thai Party insists that the Democrat Party regard people’s opinions as important, by cooperating in the election process.

Mr. Pokin said he will join the discussions with the election commission (EC) concerning the last election on 2nd February, and the elimination of obstructions to a future election.

Meanwhile, the Election Commissioner in charge of elections, Mr. Somchai Srisuthiyakorn says the election will be held on 20th July 2014.


-- NNT 2014-04-21

[h90]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

[moonao]

The democrats won't agree , they seem quite happy to hold the country hostage with every cheap trick in the book, including boycotting elections.

[moonao]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

[Bangmod]

If that's what they want, they should have it..

including UN observers and with any fact-finding about intimidation, corruption, vote buying, the should be banned from politics for life.

Under that conditions, they will have democratic and fair elections, but that's what they do not want, so Thailand will never get a free and fair election

[Ricardo]

Does PTP/UDD/Thaksin's view of "democratic principles" encompass permitting all other political-parties to campaign freely, or will the monk-beating/child-bombing/stage-dismantling/shit-throwing/poster-ripping continue as normal, during this next election ?

What's needed is a relatively-clean (don't ask for the impossible) election-campaign, a lot less intimidation of people like the E.C. & C.Court & civil-service, and an end to the constant violence from PTP and any other mysterious third-parties currently involved. While I'm asking for the impossible, some neutral policing of the polls/meetings, might also help !

Without that, why bother trying to run another election, as it would not deserve to stand anyway, being merely a rubber-stamp for the forces of intolerance and undemocracy !

[Pimay1]

Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

Does this mean they are going to call off their red sh*t throwing militia in the North and Northeast in order for the opposition to campaign in these regions? Or will it be a red democracy election?

[tomross46]

There has not been a free and fair election is Thailand since 2000. Since than there has been vote buying, intimidation and deaths. There has been many elections through the world that have been declared democratic. North Korea had a democratic election and so did Zimbabwe, do we want that type of government?.

[than]

Ok but without PTP vote buying and red intimidation against voter

[gemini81]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

They just highlight the ineptitude of PTP's inability to manage anything beyond an ant farm. They're not the reason for the epidemic failures of PTP.

Those with more education, as on record & you know it, tended to vote for Abhisit. Projection? More like those with no mind whatsoever would beg to be oppressed and run by post-feudal liege lords like PTP. What compels you to defend PTP?!

[h90]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

So Thaksin is a complete idiot spending billions of his money.....because they would have voted for without the same.

Or he is no idiot and he wouldn't have won without it?

[The stuttering parrot]

I must have missed the big announcement .

Election is on the 20th July

First I've heard about it.

[ginjag]

I must have missed the big announcement .

Election is on the 20th July

First I've heard about it.

So your joking?? no smiley---if for a minute you are not joking it proves you are not reading my posts to you and your comrades.

[ginjag]

Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

Does this mean they are going to call off their red sh*t throwing militia in the North and Northeast in order for the opposition to campaign in these regions? Or will it be a red democracy election?

All the reds need now is turbo fans to help with the S3IT

[Pimay1]

Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

Does this mean they are going to call off their red sh*t throwing militia in the North and Northeast in order for the opposition to campaign in these regions? Or will it be a red democracy election?

All the reds need now is turbo fans to help with the S3IT

Don't give moonao any ideas.

[ramrod711]

However, the Pheu Thai Party insists that the Democrat Party regard peoples opinions as important, by cooperating in the election process.

Do the PTP supporters in the north believe that Democrats opinions matter? When democrats attempt to have a rally in Lampang or Lumphun They are surrounded, speeches drowned out by trucks with loudspeaker systems. They are bombarded with stone, bricks, nuts, bolts and even potted plants. They have eggs , rotten food and human excrement thrown on or at them. I shouldn't have to say this, but judging by some of the responses to this article I will, That is not democracy. You folks that support it are, to say the least misguided. Reform before elections is paramount. I don't really care who wins as long as the country is not being led by a fugitive in exile or one of his proxies. Winning an election does not entitle you to cheat, lie, threaten, intimidate or move your entire family into positions of power. PTP would not recognize real democracy if it bit them. Thaksin has said that it isn't the end goal, what is?

[chainarong]

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Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Quiet obviously the whole country is out of its mind , now that explains quiet a lot.

[issanaus]

The democrats won't agree , they seem quite happy to hold the country hostage with every cheap trick in the book, including boycotting elections.

PTP appear to prefer violent and expensive tricks

[Gunna]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Everbody who doesn't want to accept cash for their vote and all those smarter and more knowledgeable than you will be voting for the Democrats

[Scamper]

Pheu Thai are entertaining a fantasy. Why in the world would the Democratic party wish to enable a quorum for an administration like this ? Make no mistake - outside all of the condescending remarks - Pheu Thai needs the Democratic party far, far more than they need them. As the February 2 election was nullified, the Democratic party would be perfectly free to boycott this election without any penalty. So given that realization, Pheu Thai's condescension is somewhat mystifying. Pheu Thai needs them for a quorum. Without them, they won't have one. Pheu Thai may fantasize about an election without the main opposition contesting, but that didn't quite work out as expected the last time, did it ? In fact, the reality is that even if the election were not blocked, a massive " no " vote in Bangkok and the South would be certain to nullify any local candidates, thereby not only making a 95 % quorum impossible, but making an 80 % quorum impossible. That's the reality. The reality is that - at the end of the day - Pheu Thai will have to sit down and talk. And that means that they will have to sit down and talk about the one topic they never want to talk about. ( Outside of Hong Kong gatherings, of course ). For a route out of these great political divisions, that discussion will not be able to be avoided. Perhaps it will be broached tomorrow during the televised party discussions. Wouldn't that be something ?

[moonao]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Everbody who doesn't want to accept cash for their vote and all those smarter and more knowledgeable than you will be voting for the Democrats

lucky your not leader of the opposition, many in the south would be sorely dissapointed

[bigbamboo]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Everbody who doesn't want to accept cash for their vote and all those smarter and more knowledgeable than you will be voting for the Democrats

lucky your not leader of the opposition, many in the south would be sorely disappointed

If PT are trying to force an election a.s.a.p. that would mean they're saving up their baht for when it matters. That lack of readies would also explain all the cancelled red rallies. Good housekeeping really.

Now if only they were as good at managing state funds.

[Robby nz]

Mr. Pokin said he will join the discussions with the election commission (EC) concerning the last election on 2nd February, and the elimination of obstructions to a future election.

So he wants to talk about the Feb 2 election, I didn't realize that was a subject up for discussion.

I wonder if he realizes that the main obstruction is the intimidation, bribery and obstruction of opposition parties campaigning carried out by his party and their supporters.

Probably not as it would seem to be a normal part of red democracy.

[ginjag]

July 22 approx. bring it on, I have a gut feeling this is time that Abhisit SHOULD go for it.......I actually think it could be about right with this timing.

Much of the PTP under the microscope, let alone the Shin family maybe disgraced again. Get fresh blood onto the scene, Suthep stepping out of politics.

The old song again. Now is the hour.

[scorecard]

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Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

Does this mean they are going to call off their red sh*t throwing militia in the North and Northeast in order for the opposition to campaign in these regions? Or will it be a red democracy election?

Pheu Thai Party wants a democratic election

I guess that means pt and the reds will insist that all parties and candidates must have the chance to campaign in all locations without intimidation, and pt and the reds will show the way.

[scorecard]

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Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Hey moonao, how about some constructed discussion, your one liner negatives are boring.

[tezzainoz]

The democrats won't agree , they seem quite happy to hold the country hostage with every cheap trick in the book, including boycotting elections.

and who's puppet are you

why do you not look at the facts that have been laid before you

there can be no democratic election under the present climate

FACTS

In Jan 2014 the Election Commission (EC) had repeatedly stated it could not guarantee a fair election, but the Caretaker Government insisted on going ahead with it in a bid to whitewash its wrongdoings.

Was this a Democratic Election .............. No

Unless an election is fair, it can not be democratic.

Government supporters continued to threaten independent organisations, the people and political parties which opposed it. and the police fail to perform their duties.

Ms Yingluck had never called for the pro-government and red-shirt demonstrators to behave, suggesting that she supported the actions of these same redshirt demonstrators.

Thai People have witnessed red-shirt demonstrators threaten other party members without facing arrest.

The Democrat Party has also been threatened, many times if they want to campaign in Issan

During the 2005 general election, a political canvasser belonging to his party in Phichit province had been told to stop his campaigning.

When the threat was ignored, the canvasser was shot dead in front of his house three days before the election. Police have still not arrested any suspects

In 2014 things are even worse. Anti-government demonstrators were being ambushed on a main Hyway and no suspects had been arrested.

Under these circumstances, No other party but the PTP is safe to campaign for votes in the North East of Thailand

“The [Democrat] party conducted a survey of potential candidates nationwide and found that 80% had no safe place to campaign for votes, except those in the South, Bangkok and parts of the Central Plains.

So, is this a democratic Election, is it fair if only one political party can campaign for votes but others cannot,

[WoopyDoo]

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Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

Hey moonao, how about some constructed discussion, your one liner negatives are boring.

It has become clear to me that moonao knows nothing of politics, so I don't bother responding to him. It is like talking to a stubborn 4 year old in the middle of a tantrum.

If the Dems are so easy to push to one side in an election..

Why do the PTP

Offer double the money for rice. (people are still waiting for)

Offer a free ipad (people are still waiting for)

Offer 12,000 a month minimum wage for bachelor degree holders (people are still waiting for)

Offer up to 100,000 baht refund on first car tax (people are still waiting for)

Pay village chiefs lots of money in return for putting pressure on voters to vote PTP 'or else suffer a backlash'.

Openly pay 500 baht for votes in the swing areas.

Allow their red thugs to run a campaign of murder and terror in the region that contains 60% of the voter base to stop the Dems (no other party) from campaigning.

The Feb 2 election really showed the truth about the PTP popularity... they lost a third of their votes and none of their strongholds were disrupted... That means take away all those above advantages and factor in their massive loss of voter confidence, then the PTP will never in a million years win an election here based on merit alone.

The people are sick of them and even with all those advantages in 2011, they couldn't stop the Dems from getting 11.5 million votes.

All their lost votes between 2011 and 2014 will be just itching to vote Democrat... In a free and fair election the Dems will likely get double the votes the PTP will get now that everyone knows their populist policies don't work..... Not a single one.

So lets hope they man up and accept at least electoral reforms to include stiff penalties for repeat atrocities they have performed in the last few elections.

This time MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE!

[tezzainoz]

Now they want undemocratic elections with vote buying.

no need to buy votes with such a pathetic and undemocratic opposition party. no one in their right minds would be voting for Abhisits party.

would you like to come to my village in NE Thailand and get up on your soap box and say that

yes we are in the heart of Red Country

and times have changed

shame you still live in the past

[tezzainoz]

If the want a democratic election great

have a rule

any area where democrat is not aloud to give his policy by red shirts, to keep the election democratic that sea must be nulified from the election, meaning no red shirt can win either