webfact Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Phuket death hill bus, truck ban during rush hoursWiparatana NathalangThe new curfew is aimed at preventing this sort of scene on Patong Hill. Photo Jared LucowPHUKET: From May 1, in a new attempt to prevent crashes on Patong Hill large buses and trucks will not be allowed through the checkpoint in Thung Thong and onto the hill during morning and evening rush hours.Thung Tong Superintendent Pol Maj Aekkarat Plaiduang told The Phuket News today, “We have to do this because there is a lot of traffic during peak hours.“This results in buses and trucks having to use their air brakes too often. Accidents happen when the brakes run out of air.He said the road will be closed every day to trucks with more than 10 wheels and large buses from 6 to 9 am and from 4 to 7 pm. The drivers will have to go to Patong via Cherng Talay and Kamala [to the north], or Kata and Karon [to the south] instead, he said.“If buses and trucks try to go along this road during the times of the bans, they will be fined up to a maximum of B2,000.”He also noted that police at the checkpoint are still spot-checking truck and bus drivers for abuse of alcohol or drugs.He added that it had been found that many of the buses that have been involved in crashes on the hill were not inspected in Phuket, but in Phang Nga or Krabi “because it is difficult to pass the test at the Phuket Transport Department”.Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-death-hill-bus-truck-ban-during-rush-hours-45837.php-- Phuket News 2014-04-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokheat Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 with air brakes, when you run out of air the brakes lock on, it seems the problem is that there is very little understanding about heavy vehicles at all levels 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bulekee Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 This is an eye opener for me.I didn't know buses only crash at certain times of the day.I think Thailand is on a winner here. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kkup Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 2000 is not enough, make it 20,000, a better deterrent. Throw in a mandatory quarterly service and safety inspection on all large vehicles. And a driver education course for all drivers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post laurentbkk Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 is it the same for alcohol ? ban the sale of it from 1pm to 5pm ....... but people still drink .... and die in car accident .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted April 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 Excellent idea. They can drive through the coastal villages, on a 2 lane road vs a 4, and over the other hills which are scenes to nearly as many accidents. About as sensible as as two lane tunnel replacing an already overloaded 4 lane Patong hill road. Its the vehicle maintenance and poor driving that is the issue - not sending the same on a different route. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 So, whatever happened to the project to tunnel through Patong Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwaussie Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 So, whatever happened to the project to tunnel through Patong Hill? Money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juleschiangrai Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 How does thailand think that they will ever be taken seriously by anyone when you give these pathetic fines. What is 2000thb? Are you serious? Thats a joke for one of these bus companies to pay, especially with all the money they save by not maintaining the buses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobber Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) “This results in buses and trucks having to use their air brakes too often. Accidents happen when the brakes run out of air. ..... <deleted> make sure buses are in running order simple!!! “This results in buses and trucks having to use their air brakes too often. Accidents happen when the brakes run out of air. ..... make sure buses are in running order simple!!! Note .to all drivers .. Note to all passengers Edited April 23, 2014 by Lobber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) This is an eye opener for me.I didn't know buses only crash at certain times of the day.I think Thailand is on a winner here. Someone in the west needs to buy this Thai technology pronto. Edited April 23, 2014 by oldsailor35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 is it the same for alcohol ? ban the sale of it from 1pm to 5pm ....... but people still drink .... and die in car accident .... But not everybody who drink alcohol drive bus,car or truck..............duhhhhhhh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 “This results in buses and trucks having to use their air brakes too often. Accidents happen when the brakes run out of air. ..... <deleted> make sure buses are in running order simple!!! And Thai drivers should be shown how to change to low gear when on steep down hill section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 So Patong authorities have imposed this ban. What if the authorities in Kata/Karon and Kamala follow suit? And why shouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerIndoors Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 A Jacobs braking system as on most heavy vehicles in the West would partially solve the problem. The other bit would teach the muppets how to drive and use it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulekee Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 This is an eye opener for me.I didn't know buses only crash at certain times of the day.I think Thailand is on a winner here. Someone in the west needs to buy this Thai technology pronto. r u x r n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I feel safer already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 “This results in buses and trucks having to use their air brakes too often. Accidents happen when the brakes run out of air. ..... <deleted> make sure buses are in running order simple!!! And Thai drivers should be shown how to change to low gear when on steep down hill section. Teaching them how to drive would be a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roderz Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Diverting large buses through Kamala and Kata is just stupid beyond belief!!!! As said above, the roads are tiny and single pass and still over steep terrain that will be just as trecherous for poorly maintained buses and trucks. Tourists boarding buses at the airport or at hotels need to be made aware that actually riding in a large bus is 10x more dangerous for their safety and isbest avoided at all costs. Sadly, most tourists are just as short sighted as the Thai officials running Phuket so a real shame a better solution cannot be found. Edited April 23, 2014 by roderz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Quote: "He added that it had been found that many of the buses that have been involved in crashes on the hill were not inspected in Phuket, but in Phang Nga or Krabi “because it is difficult to pass the test at the Phuket Transport Department”. He really meant: it is too expensive to pass the test at the Phuket Transport Department. We all know why it's too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Quote: "He added that it had been found that many of the buses that have been involved in crashes on the hill were not inspected in Phuket, but in Phang Nga or Krabi “because it is difficult to pass the test at the Phuket Transport Department”. He really meant: it is too expensive to pass the test at the Phuket Transport Department. We all know why it's too expensive. 'We all know', just say what you mean but don't presume you know what I think or know. For your information, on Phuket many vehicles are not passed because of violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullx8 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 air breakes run out of air ? <deleted>??? thats the whole point, as little air - the more break-force is applied ... looks like the peoples making this nonsense rules are very professional in automotive technology. what about making stupidity and loss of common sense a traffic offence. that would solve all problems over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleythedog Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> This is an eye opener for me.I didn't know buses only crash at certain times of the day.I think Thailand is on a winner here. We all know that their vehicles are really well maintained, that the drivers are experts in their field, and that pigs fly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 A simple truck/bus lane at the top and a sign that says in Thai "all trucks/buses must stop and engage low gear before proceeding. Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkey_rich Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 How does thailand think that they will ever be taken seriously by anyone when you give these pathetic fines. What is 2000thb? Are you serious? Thats a joke for one of these bus companies to pay, especially with all the money they save by not maintaining the buses. How does Thailand think that they will ever be taken seriously by anyone?? Period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKS22 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Excellent idea. They can drive through the coastal villages, on a 2 lane road vs a 4, and over the other hills which are scenes to nearly as many accidents. About as sensible as as two lane tunnel replacing an already overloaded 4 lane Patong hill road. Its the vehicle maintenance and poor driving that is the issue - not sending the same on a different route. Totally agree. And even if they do take the other route to Patong passed Bang Tao & Kamala....there are STILL some VERY steep hills they have to overcome in that direction! *face palm* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 You can't teach common sense....you either born with it or in these cases "NOT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Diverting large buses through Kamala and Kata is just stupid beyond belief!!!! As said above, the roads are tiny and single pass and still over steep terrain that will be just as trecherous for poorly maintained buses and trucks. Tourists boarding buses at the airport or at hotels need to be made aware that actually riding in a large bus is 10x more dangerous for their safety and isbest avoided at all costs. Sadly, most tourists are just as short sighted as the Thai officials running Phuket so a real shame a better solution cannot be found. I agree up to the point where you commented "most tourists are just as shortsighted...". I've never surveyed all tourists to be able to say "most", "half" "all" or any other term in reference to a definite number. I've not seen any scientic research done on this topic either. I would probably use the words "I guess" "most tourists are just as shortsighted...". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Phuket has made more money out of tourism than you & I will ever know. Just build the bloody tunnel, as it is never cheaper to do than yesterday. I think the Sydney Harbour Brigge cost 40,000 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 How about teaching bus drivers how to drive, and take away alcohol and drugs while they driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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