Why do so many TV users dislike Thailand so much and yet stay?

[beb]

This is a question that I've had ever since I moved to Thailand but it usually raises its head in forums on other topics and it never seems to be a good time to broach the subject on those threads. But I am genuinely curious about this topic and hope that somebody here can give me some insight.

Ever since signing up for ThaiVisa, the one thing that strikes me is the large number of people on here who seem to genuinely despise Thailand, the Thai people, the Thai police, the government and on and on. I've lived in many foreign countries and we all have our quibbles about things we don't like but I've never been in a country where so many people who made the decision to move to a country, decide to stay while complaining so much. I mean, it's really confounding.

I certainly have my problems but none are very great and I know I'm making trade offs by living here. So I'm not some Pollyanna who just things are awesome all the time.

Can somebody explain to me, and I think a lot of others, why you remain in Thailand if you are so unhappy here? Are you unable to move? Do circumstances make it impossible to return to your home country and take you family?

And if you can't go home, why not move to another country that is perhaps a better fit?

Every time I come on Thaivisa I find myself asking this question but I never actually asked it (I don't think) so I would really appreciate it if somebody could give me some insight that perhaps I am missing.

Thanks.

[Costas2008]

We all, love, Thailand.......Thailand doesn't love us.

[JLCrab]

I stay here because I'm some Pollyanna who is just glad things are so awesome all the time.

[HeavyDrinker]

Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image.

OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit"....

I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai.

[BKK Blues Brother]

It's safer to blow a fuse on here than in real life!

[kurnell]

People are just venting. Not forgetting that people whine about their won country as well.

[Stradavarius37]

Lots of whiny gits here, same as everywhere else in the world

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[beb]

I have no idea what you're even saying.

Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image.

OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit"....

I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai.

[Stradavarius37]

I have no idea what you're even saying.

Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image.

OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit"....

I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai.

That's because you're probably not bright

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[thailiketoo]

Don't forget the Chamber of Commerce people. Florida and Oregon are quite active here.

[gmac]

I've never been aware of or used a forum like this in my home country, if I had I'm sure I would have had at least as many things to gripe about as here. On the whole life in Thailand for me is far superior to life in the UK, having an outlet for the occasional venting of one's spleen helps to keep the stress level down!

[Thaddeus]

The best garden in the world needs a little manure.

You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you.

[PaullyW]

I'll go.

I stay because of the economics

Cheap food

Cheap people (whether working for you or working on you)

Cheap housing

That's about all that Thailand offers most foreigners. It certainly does not offer much in the way of security and doesn't encourage us to integrate.

[thailiketoo]

The best garden in the world needs a little manure.

You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you.

Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix.

[Thaddeus]

The best garden in the world needs a little manure.

You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you.

Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix.

How did you manage to reach your monumental conclusion from a perfectly innocent little statement?

Telling people what you think they mean when they don't actually mean that at all is not an enviable trait.

[farang000999]

Welcome To Yet Another Episode of Complaining About The Complainers...

[nottocus]

It's because they don't have the smarts or the balls to go anywhere else.

Well, maybe not all, but definitely some of them.

Edited April 30, 2014 by nottocus

[thailiketoo]

It's because they don't have the smarts or the balls to go anywhere else.

Well, maybe not all, but definitely some of them.

They came from New York, London and Paris and got here.

[PaullyW]

Additionally, I think many of us find very little to respect of Thailand.

Check expat forums in even other countries in Asia and you won't find as much of the same type of complaining.

The main things that make Thailand perhaps more livable than other, similarly undeveloped countries is that Thais are At Least not very aggressive. They just kind of leave us alone, and we leave them alone and it works out well for everyone

[marko kok prong]

Ye gods this is about the third thread on this topic in the last few days,come on come up with something interesting!

[Sandman77]

Maybe because of bad experience within then year of stay!

I not believe that all people only have good experience !

Travel books talks only about the smiling faces, tv talks about everything!

This is the little difference that makes this board unique !

The good knowledge of each member and quick response!

I check many other boards , but a tourist traveler board is not the same then a expat board here!

Most advice for tourist not think to much of bad experience, take the good ones at home , keep a smile on your face and forget the bad ones, a expat can never do this style because

He stay always here

The bad face behind the smiling face

Or cheating ones

follow the expats on every step in daily life here!

It not have something to do talking bad about good old Siam!

Europe is even worse, unfriendly people that not response your hello on the street!

Or realistic high prices , and absolutely no future for pure expats that kicked out on the sideways of something called society !

This is the reason why we all stay here!

A travel book got money when talking good about a hotel or location!

But tv members did not get any sarang from our sponsors , that roll up my whole smartphone screen everyday!

We are all independent ,,and

Can talk about our feelings

Becaus it reflects, what real happen

in life!

[thailiketoo]

The best garden in the world needs a little manure.

You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you.

Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix.

How did you manage to reach your monumental conclusion from a perfectly innocent little statement?

Telling people what you think they mean when they don't actually mean that at all is not an enviable trait.

I thought you meant that without a little bad people would not think it was real. I said there is already enough bad without some Farang adding to it. Since you said I was wrong. What did you mean? No flame now...... Tell me what you meant and how I was wrong?

[ChrisY1]

We all have a love-hate relationship here....the place is <deleted>***d....the people are nuts....traffic unavoidable......but in defence....I have a wonderful wife....and we live very well......without the bullshit of the west.......

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[ChrisY1]

We all have a love-hate relationship here....the place is <deleted>***d....the people are nuts....traffic unavoidable......but in defence....I have a wonderful wife....and we live very well......without the bullshit of the west.......

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[arjunadawn]

Its invariably true that a man can be depicted accurately from his projection of the world. [You] ARE in essence what you see. The regrettable conclusion is the world is now too small, and the (a number) losers I sought to depart in the west are fully encamped here as well. This, then, is the "Farang" that Thai people rail against, embodied so eloquently by [some] losers here in TV defending the notion that disdain as healthy critique is nourishing. I am pleased I rarely have these bad experiences. I am pleased there are very few of you where I live. I get it! I really do. I understand why you are despised.

TV gives me less a keen perspective on the machinations of Thailand than on the actual reasons many Thai people resent you.

Edited April 30, 2014 by arjunadawn

[thailiketoo]

Maybe because of bad experience within then year of stay!

I not believe that all people only have good experience !

Travel books talks only about the smiling faces, tv talks about everything!

This is the little difference that makes this board unique !

The good knowledge of each member and quick response!

I check many other boards , but a tourist traveler board is not the same then a expat board here!

Most advice for tourist not think to much of bad experience, take the good ones at home , keep a smile on your face and forget the bad ones, a expat can never do this style because

He stay always here

The bad face behind the smiling face

Or cheating ones

follow the expats on every step in daily life here!

It not have something to do talking bad about good old Siam!

Europe is even worse, unfriendly people that not response your hello on the street!

Or realistic high prices , and absolutely no future for pure expats that kicked out on the sideways of something called society !

This is the reason why we all stay here!

A travel book got money when talking good about a hotel or location!

But tv members did not get any sarang from our sponsors , that roll up my whole smartphone screen everyday!

We are all independent ,,and

Can talk about our feelings

Becaus it reflects, what real happen

in life!

You first imply that you don't and then imply that you do live in Thailand. Which is it? I think you get your knowledge like so many here online rather than from real life experiences in Thailand.

[Sandman77]

Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map!

[Morakot]

Welcome To Yet Another Episode of Complaining About The Complainers...

[marko kok prong]

Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map!

it's when you get the finger off the map,and onto something warm and moist,that when discovery really begins.

[thailiketoo]

Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map!

it's when you get the finger off the map,and onto something warm and moist,that when discovery really begins.

The bum gun is right next to you. Try it next time.

Edited April 30, 2014 by thailiketoo