Popular Post beb Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 This is a question that I've had ever since I moved to Thailand but it usually raises its head in forums on other topics and it never seems to be a good time to broach the subject on those threads. But I am genuinely curious about this topic and hope that somebody here can give me some insight. Ever since signing up for ThaiVisa, the one thing that strikes me is the large number of people on here who seem to genuinely despise Thailand, the Thai people, the Thai police, the government and on and on. I've lived in many foreign countries and we all have our quibbles about things we don't like but I've never been in a country where so many people who made the decision to move to a country, decide to stay while complaining so much. I mean, it's really confounding. I certainly have my problems but none are very great and I know I'm making trade offs by living here. So I'm not some Pollyanna who just things are awesome all the time. Can somebody explain to me, and I think a lot of others, why you remain in Thailand if you are so unhappy here? Are you unable to move? Do circumstances make it impossible to return to your home country and take you family? And if you can't go home, why not move to another country that is perhaps a better fit? Every time I come on Thaivisa I find myself asking this question but I never actually asked it (I don't think) so I would really appreciate it if somebody could give me some insight that perhaps I am missing. Thanks. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 We all, love, Thailand.......Thailand doesn't love us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JLCrab Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 I stay here because I'm some Pollyanna who is just glad things are so awesome all the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeavyDrinker Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image. OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit".... I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKK Blues Brother Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 It's safer to blow a fuse on here than in real life! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 People are just venting. Not forgetting that people whine about their won country as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Lots of whiny gits here, same as everywhere else in the world Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beb Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have no idea what you're even saying. Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image. OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit".... I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have no idea what you're even saying. Oh God, not another post whining about TV members....from a TV member....albeit one with a very shaky self image. OP Don't worry. If you don't like it try another forum where you'll be a "better fit".... I'm sure you see yourself as a heroic defender of all things Thai. That's because you're probably not bright Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Don't forget the Chamber of Commerce people. Florida and Oregon are quite active here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gmac Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 I've never been aware of or used a forum like this in my home country, if I had I'm sure I would have had at least as many things to gripe about as here. On the whole life in Thailand for me is far superior to life in the UK, having an outlet for the occasional venting of one's spleen helps to keep the stress level down! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 The best garden in the world needs a little manure. You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaullyW Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 I'll go. I stay because of the economics Cheap food Cheap people (whether working for you or working on you) Cheap housing That's about all that Thailand offers most foreigners. It certainly does not offer much in the way of security and doesn't encourage us to integrate. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The best garden in the world needs a little manure. You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you. Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The best garden in the world needs a little manure. You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you. Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix. How did you manage to reach your monumental conclusion from a perfectly innocent little statement? Telling people what you think they mean when they don't actually mean that at all is not an enviable trait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farang000999 Posted April 30, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2014 Welcome To Yet Another Episode of Complaining About The Complainers... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottocus Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) It's because they don't have the smarts or the balls to go anywhere else. Well, maybe not all, but definitely some of them. Edited April 30, 2014 by nottocus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 It's because they don't have the smarts or the balls to go anywhere else. Well, maybe not all, but definitely some of them. They came from New York, London and Paris and got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Additionally, I think many of us find very little to respect of Thailand. Check expat forums in even other countries in Asia and you won't find as much of the same type of complaining. The main things that make Thailand perhaps more livable than other, similarly undeveloped countries is that Thais are At Least not very aggressive. They just kind of leave us alone, and we leave them alone and it works out well for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Ye gods this is about the third thread on this topic in the last few days,come on come up with something interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Maybe because of bad experience within then year of stay! I not believe that all people only have good experience ! Travel books talks only about the smiling faces, tv talks about everything! This is the little difference that makes this board unique ! The good knowledge of each member and quick response! I check many other boards , but a tourist traveler board is not the same then a expat board here! Most advice for tourist not think to much of bad experience, take the good ones at home , keep a smile on your face and forget the bad ones, a expat can never do this style because He stay always here The bad face behind the smiling face Or cheating ones follow the expats on every step in daily life here! It not have something to do talking bad about good old Siam! Europe is even worse, unfriendly people that not response your hello on the street! Or realistic high prices , and absolutely no future for pure expats that kicked out on the sideways of something called society ! This is the reason why we all stay here! A travel book got money when talking good about a hotel or location! But tv members did not get any sarang from our sponsors , that roll up my whole smartphone screen everyday! We are all independent ,,and Can talk about our feelings Becaus it reflects, what real happen in life! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The best garden in the world needs a little manure. You don't have to like or praise the manure though do you. Negative advertising promotes Thailand? You don't really believe that do you? I mean really, Thailand does enough themselves with political turmoil, airport closures, floods and coups not to need any Farang bad mouthing to compliment the normal mix. How did you manage to reach your monumental conclusion from a perfectly innocent little statement? Telling people what you think they mean when they don't actually mean that at all is not an enviable trait. I thought you meant that without a little bad people would not think it was real. I said there is already enough bad without some Farang adding to it. Since you said I was wrong. What did you mean? No flame now...... Tell me what you meant and how I was wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 We all have a love-hate relationship here....the place is <deleted>***d....the people are nuts....traffic unavoidable......but in defence....I have a wonderful wife....and we live very well......without the bullshit of the west....... Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 We all have a love-hate relationship here....the place is <deleted>***d....the people are nuts....traffic unavoidable......but in defence....I have a wonderful wife....and we live very well......without the bullshit of the west....... Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Its invariably true that a man can be depicted accurately from his projection of the world. [You] ARE in essence what you see. The regrettable conclusion is the world is now too small, and the (a number) losers I sought to depart in the west are fully encamped here as well. This, then, is the "Farang" that Thai people rail against, embodied so eloquently by [some] losers here in TV defending the notion that disdain as healthy critique is nourishing. I am pleased I rarely have these bad experiences. I am pleased there are very few of you where I live. I get it! I really do. I understand why you are despised. TV gives me less a keen perspective on the machinations of Thailand than on the actual reasons many Thai people resent you. Edited April 30, 2014 by arjunadawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Maybe because of bad experience within then year of stay! I not believe that all people only have good experience ! Travel books talks only about the smiling faces, tv talks about everything! This is the little difference that makes this board unique ! The good knowledge of each member and quick response! I check many other boards , but a tourist traveler board is not the same then a expat board here! Most advice for tourist not think to much of bad experience, take the good ones at home , keep a smile on your face and forget the bad ones, a expat can never do this style because He stay always here The bad face behind the smiling face Or cheating ones follow the expats on every step in daily life here! It not have something to do talking bad about good old Siam! Europe is even worse, unfriendly people that not response your hello on the street! Or realistic high prices , and absolutely no future for pure expats that kicked out on the sideways of something called society ! This is the reason why we all stay here! A travel book got money when talking good about a hotel or location! But tv members did not get any sarang from our sponsors , that roll up my whole smartphone screen everyday! We are all independent ,,and Can talk about our feelings Becaus it reflects, what real happen in life! You first imply that you don't and then imply that you do live in Thailand. Which is it? I think you get your knowledge like so many here online rather than from real life experiences in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Welcome To Yet Another Episode of Complaining About The Complainers... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map! it's when you get the finger off the map,and onto something warm and moist,that when discovery really begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Yes the knowledge from real life experience are not the same like the google knowledge, or looking a travel movie and was in each country but only with the finger on the map! it's when you get the finger off the map,and onto something warm and moist,that when discovery really begins. The bum gun is right next to you. Try it next time. Edited April 30, 2014 by thailiketoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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