Chart Thai Pattana adviser: Political reformation cannot breach the Constitution

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Chart Thai Pattana Party adviser says political reformation cannot breach the Constitution

BANGKOK, 6 May 2014 (NNT) - A Chart Thai Pattana Party adviser has suggested that all sides should come together to set up guidelines for political reformation without breaching the Constitution, adding that an election on 20 July is the best way forward.

According to the 10-point political road map just recently advocated by Abhisit Vejjajiva, the Democrat party leader, there are "five keys" to solving the current political problems, including the installation of a "neutral" prime minister.

In response, the Chart Thai Pattana adviser, Somsak Prissananantakul, said the party will support any solution that does not breach the Constitution and wants all sides to solve this crisis together.

Moreover, he believes that holding an election on 20 July will be the best way out of the political impasse for the country, with another election to be held in a year and a half.

Mr. Somsak added that a neutral interim government is not acceptable since the prime minister must only ascend to the position via an election.

He admitted that he is worried about the current circumstances since Thailand will enter the AEC soon, while several laws and regulations are pending approval by the government and need to be worked out.

However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation.

-- NNT 2014-05-06

[Dogmatix]

But ignoring the ruling the Constitutional Court would, of course, be constitutional.

[Scamper]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Edited May 6, 2014 by Scamper

[noitom]

The Thai press has to help Thais to understand that "reform" should refer to law and order enforcement, eliminating government positions that interact with contract approvals, and cleaning up the police force and payoffs.

Talking about "political reform" is meaningless and merely repeating the same thing expecting the results to be different. It is shameful that the Thai press doesn't clarify this in order to help the Thai people see what reform is really about or should be about.

[casualbiker]

Typical response from Barnharn slippery eels political party ... slippery!

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[tomhell]

This is the biggest scandal. Since 6 months the PDRC/Democrats talk about "Reform before election".

Where are the concrete reform suggestions and why they are not published to the public?

The best solution for Thailand ???

1. Every party makes it own reform suggestions.

2. Publish the concrete reform-suggestions to the public.

3. Then have a general election where the people decide what party and reform they want.

I think this is realistic and democratic.

Tom

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

[tingtongteesood]

Of course, he would say that as CTP is just a slave of Thaksin. The problem is that there are the Dems that actually know how to run a country, but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does because they know it is bad for the country. Then we have Thaksin under whatever stupid named party he has at the time who just buys peoples votes with insane populist policies and promises to make them all rich in 6 months. Then we have 70 parties that are completely ineffectual and the majority of them are just Thaksin ass kissers on retainer for when he needs their votes...

[Morch]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Other than a few broad line ideas, did the Democrat Party, Abhisit or the PDRC, actually present a detailed comprehensive reform proposal? And going a step further, a proposal with realistic chance of being nationally embraced?

I recall Anand Panyarachun commenting once that there's no shortage of reform proposals and plans, all pretty much the same, all gathering dust at the PM's office. And that was the situation when he assumed the job...

[h90]

This is the biggest scandal. Since 6 months the PDRC/Democrats talk about "Reform before election".

Where are the concrete reform suggestions and why they are not published to the public?

The best solution for Thailand ???

1. Every party makes it own reform suggestions.

2. Publish the concrete reform-suggestions to the public.

3. Then have a general election where the people decide what party and reform they want.

I think this is realistic and democratic.

Tom

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

4. and who does the most vote buying gets what he is paying for....

The point of the reforms is to make laws that stop vote buying and other similar fraud. You can't vote before you have a fair system for voting.

You could make a neutral government with the only purpose to make changes that allows fair elections but not other changes and than do as you suggested. I think there is no discussion necessary if vote buying should be legal or illegal.

[casualbiker]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Other than a few broad line ideas, did the Democrat Party, Abhisit or the PDRC, actually present a detailed comprehensive reform proposal? And going a step further, a proposal with realistic chance of being nationally embraced?

I recall Anand Panyarachun commenting once that there's no shortage of reform proposals and plans, all pretty much the same, all gathering dust at the PM's office. And that was the situation when he assumed the job...

Morch. This time I would presume yes.. as the government said they needed time to read it and confer.

I would ask though where is the PTP reform proposal from January about setting up a reform committee?

Also if ALL the reform proposals are pretty much the same. Maybe that's what needs doing ..

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[casualbiker]

Of course, he would say that as CTP is just a slave of Thaksin. The problem is that there are the Dems that actually know how to run a country, but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does because they know it is bad for the country. Then we have Thaksin under whatever stupid named party he has at the time who just buys peoples votes with insane populist policies and promises to make them all rich in 6 months. Then we have 70 parties that are completely ineffectual and the majority of them are just Thaksin ass kissers on retainer for when he needs their votes...

Nah they are not a slave to Thaksin ..they are old school .. slave to staying IN power ..whomever with! In their various guises Barnharns party has been in pretty much EVERY government for the past 20 plus years.

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[Morch]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Other than a few broad line ideas, did the Democrat Party, Abhisit or the PDRC, actually present a detailed comprehensive reform proposal? And going a step further, a proposal with realistic chance of being nationally embraced?

I recall Anand Panyarachun commenting once that there's no shortage of reform proposals and plans, all pretty much the same, all gathering dust at the PM's office. And that was the situation when he assumed the job...

Morch. This time I would presume yes.. as the government said they needed time to read it and confer.

I would ask though where is the PTP reform proposal from January about setting up a reform committee?

Also if ALL the reform proposals are pretty much the same. Maybe that's what needs doing ..

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They are not pretending to review a comprehensive reform proposal, just making a show of reviewing Abhisit's plan.

The point is that there was no halfway detailed reform presented to the public, just tossing the word around plus a few headlines.

Not saying that the PTP got better idea of reform or any idea, but then again, they weren't the ones who brought it up (this time around).

Abhisit's plan calls for referendum on reforms within a rather limited time frame. Well, the PDRC been at it for about 6 months, what do they have to show for it? Not sure, but wasn't Korn put on a similar mission a few months back?

There's a lot of talk about reform, very little substance.

[casualbiker]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Other than a few broad line ideas, did the Democrat Party, Abhisit or the PDRC, actually present a detailed comprehensive reform proposal? And going a step further, a proposal with realistic chance of being nationally embraced?

I recall Anand Panyarachun commenting once that there's no shortage of reform proposals and plans, all pretty much the same, all gathering dust at the PM's office. And that was the situation when he assumed the job...

Morch. This time I would presume yes.. as the government said they needed time to read it and confer.

I would ask though where is the PTP reform proposal from January about setting up a reform committee?

Also if ALL the reform proposals are pretty much the same. Maybe that's what needs doing ..

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They are not pretending to review a comprehensive reform proposal, just making a show of reviewing Abhisit's plan.

The point is that there was no halfway detailed reform presented to the public, just tossing the word around plus a few headlines.

Not saying that the PTP got better idea of reform or any idea, but then again, they weren't the ones who brought it up (this time around).

Abhisit's plan calls for referendum on reforms within a rather limited time frame. Well, the PDRC been at it for about 6 months, what do they have to show for it? Not sure, but wasn't Korn put on a similar mission a few months back?

There's a lot of talk about reform, very little substance.

I think you know it doesn't matter what the public want really. It's about making the reform reasonably acceptable to the political parties involved .. if there is a reform council they will sort out the relevant reforms and that would be voted on in a referendum. But you have to ACTUALLY get to that stage first!

PTP has had EVERY chance to head this reform proposal off by instituting reforms themselves .. but nothing .. no recommendations ..nothing concrete ...nothing!

It takes two to tango!

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Edited May 6, 2014 by casualbiker

[Morch]

Other than a few broad line ideas, did the Democrat Party, Abhisit or the PDRC, actually present a detailed comprehensive reform proposal? And going a step further, a proposal with realistic chance of being nationally embraced?

I recall Anand Panyarachun commenting once that there's no shortage of reform proposals and plans, all pretty much the same, all gathering dust at the PM's office. And that was the situation when he assumed the job...

Morch. This time I would presume yes.. as the government said they needed time to read it and confer.

I would ask though where is the PTP reform proposal from January about setting up a reform committee?

Also if ALL the reform proposals are pretty much the same. Maybe that's what needs doing ..

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They are not pretending to review a comprehensive reform proposal, just making a show of reviewing Abhisit's plan.

The point is that there was no halfway detailed reform presented to the public, just tossing the word around plus a few headlines.

Not saying that the PTP got better idea of reform or any idea, but then again, they weren't the ones who brought it up (this time around).

Abhisit's plan calls for referendum on reforms within a rather limited time frame. Well, the PDRC been at it for about 6 months, what do they have to show for it? Not sure, but wasn't Korn put on a similar mission a few months back?

There's a lot of talk about reform, very little substance.

I think you know it doesn't matter what the public want really. It's about making the reform reasonably acceptable to the political parties involved .. if there is a reform council they will sort out the relevant reforms and that would be voted on in a referendum. But you have to ACTUALLY get to that stage first!

PTP has had EVERY chance to head this reform proposal off by instituting reforms themselves .. but nothing .. no recommendations ..nothing concrete ...nothing!

It takes two to tango!

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Ah, and there I was thinking Suthep was all about giving power back to the people.

The premise that this needs to be agreed upon just by a few party honchos should have made things much clearer, as they all been at the game long enough. Either they can agree on a brokered deal, or they think it's not in their best interests to make one.

The PDRC been bleating on reforms for a few months, there were supposedly committees set up to discuss issues pertaining to reform - what have they been doing all this time?

The PTP aren't the ones who claimed reforms are needed (well, disregarding their failed attempts to change the constitution etc.), so not exactly sure what you refer to. The reform council they set up was obviously bogus, and just a response to the equally hollow PDRC version of the same. Both got nothing concrete to show for it.

It takes two to tango, but far as I recall, the PDRC wasn't much into talking with the government. If there's no dialogue (and yes, the PTP actions and conduct got a lot to do with that) this will not be solved.

[Nickymaster]

This is the biggest scandal. Since 6 months the PDRC/Democrats talk about "Reform before election".

Where are the concrete reform suggestions and why they are not published to the public?

The best solution for Thailand ???

1. Every party makes it own reform suggestions.

2. Publish the concrete reform-suggestions to the public.

3. Then have a general election where the people decide what party and reform they want.

I think this is realistic and democratic.

Tom

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

Lol. Is your name Noppadon?

[WoopyDoo]

Moreover, he believes that holding an election on 20 July will be the best way out of the political impasse for the country, with another election to be held in a year and a half.

Another one with the jaded opinion that a July 20th election will solve all problems...... yawn!

It will be exactly the same as the Feb 2nd.... It won't be accepted, it won't be completed and it won't even happen now that the EC have the ability to defer it in the light of disruption.

So how the hell can all these idiots continue to be of that stupid opinion.... where have they all been for the past 6 months?

Going ahead with this election without compromising on reforms first will just keep us in a vacuum, and this vacuum will be without a cabinet or PM if these Thaksin lackies get their way.

RULE OR DESTROY THAILAND.......... IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD FOR THAKSIN.

Sad thing is..... Should YL and her puppets all be removed over the next week, they will all still be bitching from the sidelines and whipping up dissent and probably violence from the red muppets.

Edited May 6, 2014 by WoopyDoo

[h90]

why cannot breach the constitution? Thailand had how many constitutions the last 50 years?

[FangFerang]

Of course, he would say that as CTP is just a slave of Thaksin. The problem is that there are the Dems that actually know how to run a country, but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does because they know it is bad for the country. Then we have Thaksin under whatever stupid named party he has at the time who just buys peoples votes with insane populist policies and promises to make them all rich in 6 months. Then we have 70 parties that are completely ineffectual and the majority of them are just Thaksin ass kissers on retainer for when he needs their votes...

"but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does" You are wrong and your argument holds no water. The democrats have subsidized private schools for over twenty years. Private schools. Thai's taxes pay more for privately educated students than students in the public schools.

That is populist, counter-productive and sleazy. And endemic. Get over it. Populist policies were not invented by the yo-yo PTP leaders. They just brought those policies to the poor sector and now everyone is screaming 'how dare you?"

The amount of money dumped into private schools over the last ten years makes the rice scheme look like shoplifting a candy bar as compared to armed robbery of a bank.

Maybe read something not in TVF? Try it -- it's very informative.

[casualbiker]

Of course, he would say that as CTP is just a slave of Thaksin. The problem is that there are the Dems that actually know how to run a country, but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does because they know it is bad for the country. Then we have Thaksin under whatever stupid named party he has at the time who just buys peoples votes with insane populist policies and promises to make them all rich in 6 months. Then we have 70 parties that are completely ineffectual and the majority of them are just Thaksin ass kissers on retainer for when he needs their votes...

"but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does" You are wrong and your argument holds no water. The democrats have subsidized private schools for over twenty years. Private schools. Thai's taxes pay more for privately educated students than students in the public schools.

That is populist, counter-productive and sleazy. And endemic. Get over it. Populist policies were not invented by the yo-yo PTP leaders. They just brought those policies to the poor sector and now everyone is screaming 'how dare you?"

The amount of money dumped into private schools over the last ten years makes the rice scheme look like shoplifting a candy bar as compared to armed robbery of a bank.

Maybe read something not in TVF? Try it -- it's very informative.

Any links?

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[Dogmatix]

" However, the Chart Thai Pattana Party is not proposing any specific guidelines for reformation. "

And this is the big problem. Why are Thailand's political parties absent ideas on reform ? Haven't they had their ear on the public ? What do they think has been going on the last six months ? Is the Democratic party the only party that is interested in breaking the impasse here ? ( Yes. ) No political party is suggesting any ideas for reform outside of the Democratic party. Noppadon recently had the effrontery to suggest that Abhisit wasn't taking into account the reforms Pheu Thai was interested in. What reforms ? This is the first time we've heard about that - unless of course he is referring to the reforms Pheu Thai already implemented in the past - like an amnesty bill rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning that pardoned Thaksin and over 25,000 other people convicted of corruption, or like a Senate restructuring bill - also rammed through parliament at 4 in the morning. If he is referring to those kinds of reforms - yes, I think Abhisit was wise not to build on those particular initiatives. But if Pheu Thai is truly interested in reform, now's the time to sit down with Abhisit and talk about them. Chart Thai Pattana party has no reform initiatives of their own. Perhaps Pheu Thai does. If so, now's the time to talk. And incidentally, this spokesman for Chart Thai Pattana party need not be worried about staying within the constitution. The constitution makes provisions for the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate when a parliamentary quorum is not achieved. Surely he must know that by now.

The reforms Pheua Thai is interested in include: a fully elected Senate with spouses and children of sitting MPs eligible and no restriction on consecutive terms; amendments to the Constitution to make it harder to punish corrupt politicians and vote buyers; abolition of the Constitutional Court and the Supreme Court for Political Office holders; carte blanche to borrow trillions of baht for dubious infrastructure projects without being subject to Parliamentary scrutiny; the amnesty of Thaksin and all other Pheua Thai, Palang Prachachon, Thai Rak Thai and red shirt criminals regardless of their offences for all past, present and future crimes; an amendment to Section 112 of the Penal Code to include all members of the Shinawatra family.

Edited May 6, 2014 by Dogmatix

[Morch]

Of course, he would say that as CTP is just a slave of Thaksin. The problem is that there are the Dems that actually know how to run a country, but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does because they know it is bad for the country. Then we have Thaksin under whatever stupid named party he has at the time who just buys peoples votes with insane populist policies and promises to make them all rich in 6 months. Then we have 70 parties that are completely ineffectual and the majority of them are just Thaksin ass kissers on retainer for when he needs their votes...

"but refuse to resort to the crazy populist policies in the way Thaksin does" You are wrong and your argument holds no water. The democrats have subsidized private schools for over twenty years. Private schools. Thai's taxes pay more for privately educated students than students in the public schools.

That is populist, counter-productive and sleazy. And endemic. Get over it. Populist policies were not invented by the yo-yo PTP leaders. They just brought those policies to the poor sector and now everyone is screaming 'how dare you?"

The amount of money dumped into private schools over the last ten years makes the rice scheme look like shoplifting a candy bar as compared to armed robbery of a bank.

Maybe read something not in TVF? Try it -- it's very informative.

Any links?

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Sent in PM, think it's a bit OT