PDRC leader Suthep submits petition to Senate

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PDRC leader submits petition to Senate
The Nation


Suthep waits to submit his letter to the deputy Senate speaker.

BANGKOK: -- Rally leader Suthep Thaugsuban on Friday submitted a petition to the Senate, asking it to help find a solution to the country's ongoing political stalemate.

Deputy Senate Speaker Surachai Liengboonlertchai received the petition from Suthep in a reception room inside the Parliament.

The Senate has yet to appoint a speaker.

Suthep was welcomed to the Parliament after marching from the Government House. He is leading anti-government protesters to many spots in Bangkok in what he calls "the final battle" against the Thaksin regime.

Surachai was heard saying in a live broadcast of the meeting with Suthep that he would talk to all parties in a bid to find an acceptable resolution to the political problems.

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.


-- The Nation 2014-05-09

[moonao]

If thats not a prime opportunity to arrest this bonehead, i dont know what is

[DirtFarmer]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

[h90]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

[BillyBobThai]

As much as I like what this man has done lately to help Thailand, he should now step down. He has achieved what he set out to do, now let others finish what needs to be done without any distractions.

[ikke]

"Suthep was welcomed in the parliament "

How can somebody with an arrest warrant on him, and wanted for violence and seizing public properties be welcomed in the parliament ?

[Soutpeel]

"Suthep was welcomed in the parliament "

How can somebody with an arrest warrant on him, and wanted for violence and seizing public properties be welcomed in the parliament ?

How can a convicted criminal "govern" a country using his sister as a proxy prime minister ?

[Emptyset]

Anyone got a book open who the PDRC will name as next PM? My money is still on Prawit Wongsuwan, though I heard Anand was lobbying hard, but Prawit and other senior figures behind the PDRC put an end to that idea. I guess they'll want more of a hardliner rather than someone seen as a figure of compromise, as we can expect there'll be a lot of dissent which will have to be dealt with harshly. Pridiyathorn is another possibility I guess, but he's more likely to get Finance and Dept PM. Then I suppose there's the distant possibility of them naming someone completely leftfield that nobody was expecting... like Maj Gen Chamlong or the other former PAD leader, Somsak, who Suthep was at the Senate with earlier. Suthep taking the role himself is still an outside bet, too, of course.

[DirtFarmer]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

Edited May 9, 2014 by DirtFarmer

[fab4]

A man for all occasions.....................

[mikemac]

Brilliant propaganda !

[PatOngo]

If thats not a prime opportunity to arrest this bonehead, i dont know what is

If that does'nt highlight the disarray of the caretaker ruling party,what does?

[h90]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

And which mysterious people should that be that want to grab the power but not have the money to buy it?

And why should all the south and Bangkok middle class follow them?

Corruption was always here, but non of the previous government was as corrupt as Thaksin. Previous government never tried to dismantle the separation of power. That the reforms may fail is another thing, but isn't an argument to not try it.

[rubl]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

Looking at the bigger picture I still want reforms.

AS I wrote before a dictatorship with powerful watchdog to keep it in check may be required to move the country consistently into a democratic direction where people no longer expect that corruption solves all problems you may have.

[rubl]

A man for all occasions.....................

Sad to see what nightly attacks have forced this anti-government movement into.

[DirtFarmer]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

And which mysterious people should that be that want to grab the power but not have the money to buy it?

And why should all the south and Bangkok middle class follow them?

Corruption was always here, but non of the previous government was as corrupt as Thaksin. Previous government never tried to dismantle the separation of power. That the reforms may fail is another thing, but isn't an argument to not try it.

Not true... every government was corrupt and their tool of empowerment was pointing out the corruption of those they wanted to take the power from... I have no measurable data available that tells me ..a farang which government regime was more corrupt or less corrupt than Thaksin or Abhisit or Leekpai or any that came before them as I believe you do not have either...so just to conviently bash Thaksin is missing the point next time it will be another name another face but the game will remain the same...

You might want to start looking at the wealthiest people in Thailand ( Forbes is a good place to start... then take a look at thier political inclinations... who is on their board of directors..etc doing some real research about the big players...then take a look at their relationships to the privy councillors/ generals appointed Senators Permanent Secrataries/ Comissions. Judges et al and see how they came to power and the picture becomes a lot clearer...don't get me wrong Thaksin most probably was not clean by any means... neither were or are any of the others... but contextually this hue and cry using the same old ruse "refom' is for the truly gullible and has worked wonders for decades.. and it's purpose is only to to keep the eyes on the trees so as not to see the forrest...It is much bigger picture and I agree reforms are necessary but it will take decades and start at home with families and in education of the young and the customs and habits like sin nam jai being abandoned and accepted kickback schemes that have been a part of doing business here forever... reform is a buzz word and a bumper sticker and will take decades. Removing Thaksin is a small slice of the pie of reform... they all need to be removed and we know that isn't gonna happen

Edited May 9, 2014 by DirtFarmer

[h90]

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

And which mysterious people should that be that want to grab the power but not have the money to buy it?

And why should all the south and Bangkok middle class follow them?

Corruption was always here, but non of the previous government was as corrupt as Thaksin. Previous government never tried to dismantle the separation of power. That the reforms may fail is another thing, but isn't an argument to not try it.

Not true... every government was corrupt and their tool of empowerment was pointing out the corruption of those they wanted to take the power from... I have no measurable data available that tells me ..a farang which governemt regime was more corrupt or less corrupt than Thaksin or Abhisit or Leekpai or any that came before them as I believe you do not have either...so just to conviently bash Thaksin is missing the point next time it will be another name another face but the game will remain the same...

You might want to start looking at the wealthiest people in Thailand ( Forbes is a good place to start... then take a look at thier political inclinations... who is on their broard of directors..ertc doing some real research about the big players...then take a look at their relationships to the privy councillors/ generals appointed Senators Permanent Secrataries/ Comissions. Judges et al and see how they came to power and the picture becomes a lot clearer...don't get me wrong Thaksin most probably was not clean by any means... neither were or are any of the others... but contextually this hue and cry using the same old ruse "refom' is for the truly gullible and has worked wonders for decades.. and it's purpose is only to to keep the eyes on the trees so as not to see the forrrest...It is a much bigger and I agree reorms are necessary but it will take decades and start at home with families and in education of the young and the customs and habits like sin nam jai being abandoned and accepted kickback schemes that have been a part of doing business her forever... reform is a buzz word and a bumper sticker and will take decades.

If you don't know which government was more corrupt, than I would recommend stop posting till you know a bit more from Thailand......The standard rate went up from a 5% commission to a 30% and if possible to use own companies which than results in even far more.

Yes than please name which of these wealthiest people you suspect to be involved...

[3NUMBAS]

this is what happens when a bully runs rampant all over town without arrest ,giving his orders to all and sundry about his demands .

imagine this in any other country going on for months and trashing the economy ,he would be arrested right away .

should have been locked up and on meds in a secure unit last year

[Thailand]

A man for all occasions.....................

Sad to see what nightly attacks have forced this anti-government movement into.

Seriously?

He has a band of hired thugs. Wearing masks to protect from the sun?

[fab4]

A man for all occasions.....................

Sad to see what nightly attacks have forced this anti-government movement into.

He had thugs as guards when he started rubl. I don't see what's so different now

[rubl]

A man for all occasions.....................

Sad to see what nightly attacks have forced this anti-government movement into.

He had thugs as guards when he started rubl. I don't see what's so different now

You probably mean that k. Suthep's guards have been 'militarised' since the protests started end of October, 2013. That's what you get when from day one the government declares your protest against their undemocratic blanket amnesty bill illegal, when police is put on them, when 'unknowns cowards' start shooting and lobbing grenades at them.

30+ dead and 750++ wounded later.

[Scamper]

It seems that there is nothing more grating to the sensibilities of Pheu Thai and their supporters than people smiling, exchanging views, pleasantries, and shaking hands.

[stickyrice2000]

This is dangerous since there are no laws in Thailand. It's a cold war. The movement will not be as visible and more scary.

[metisdead]

Attempts to bring HM the King into the discussion have been removed, remember that there is to be:

No Discussion Of The Monarchy In Political Context

Also remember this:

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[ramrod711]

"Suthep was welcomed in the parliament "

How can somebody with an arrest warrant on him, and wanted for violence and seizing public properties be welcomed in the parliament ?

Beats me, ask Nattawut.

[fab4]

It seems that there is nothing more grating to the sensibilities of Pheu Thai and their supporters than people smiling, exchanging views, pleasantries, and shaking hands.

How right you are scamper, some relationships are particularly nauseous

[Dr Bruce]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

Looking at the bigger picture I still want reforms.

AS I wrote before a dictatorship with powerful watchdog to keep it in check may be required to move the country consistently into a democratic direction where people no longer expect that corruption solves all problems you may have.

Good luck with that. Will the watchdog be elected? or will we have an un-elected council as a watchdog for the dictator?

Democratic direction from that would be a U-Turn.

[ramrod711]

He also asked Suthep and his supporters not to resort to violence and illegal methods so that their demands could be met.

Hmmm..... this reeks as well...lt can be interpreted a number of ways...but none so straight forward as to say 'Hey if you are good you will get what you want Wunderkind Thaugsuban' well folks ya Suthep/Abhisit/Dems/PAD boot lickers ya got what ya wanted.. A surefire Judicial/political coup...hope you're happy with how it plays out in the long run...Thailand has leapt backwards at warp speed...fasten those seatbelts...and somebody arrest this guy... otherwise he wil not go away ....

So forward into Thaksinland is good.

Stopping vote buying and corruption and make a government of honest people and pay the farmer well for their products is backwards? Well that I like backwards.

Stop with the Thaksin hogwash... it was never about that... it was about grabbing power.... if you think for a minute these Miraculous yet unspoken reforms are going to change the MO of the major players ( much more major than Taksin ever was) you are blinded by what I know not, but blinded nonetheless Thaksin was just the opportune target of the moment... The good old boys aren't going to give up their ways and means for any farmers benefit...much less "the people" get real... only for their people ...Money talks here and everything else comes in third...I'll be curious to see in a year much less 18 months what if anything has been reformed...Impossible when you have Courts and agencies private councils, generals, commisions that are not independant and some of which may be in someones pocket and laws that are not enforced and so on and on and on...reform will take decades and doesn't have a convenient face to bash.. because it is everyones face...Try looking at the bigger picture.

If you really believe that this isn't about Thaksin and his, everybody's been banned family, you are badly misinformed.

[Soutpeel]

this is what happens when a bully runs rampant all over town without arrest ,giving his orders to all and sundry about his demands .

imagine this in any other country going on for months and trashing the economy ,he would be arrested right away .

should have been locked up and on meds in a secure unit last year

Quite....now why hasn't that Interpol arrest warrant been organised then ?....I believe Dubai is a signatory to this treaty

[djjamie]

A man for all occasions.....................

Sad to see what nightly attacks have forced this anti-government movement into.

Seriously?

He has a band of hired thugs. Wearing masks to protect from the sun?

Not sure if you have been to Thailand, but it is quite common to wear full facial balaclava's to protect from the sun. Very disconcerting the first time you see it for sure. I have worked in Laos and Thailand in mining and my staff wear full balaclavas most of the day as they work out in the sun. Rice farmer are no different.

That white skin is to be prized and highlights a status that Thai's crave. Funnily enough the farmers want the same skin as the people that the UDD and PTP despise. Educated, articulate folk. Ironic isn't it?

So yes, they wear this to protect them from the sun. Unless of course you can show me evidence that they are covering their faced to disguise themselves. Have you got any evidence whatsoever that they are purported to be doing what you suggest? Until you prove that we can only assume I am right as that is a very common Thai trait.

It's fine if you're not able to provide this evidence, it's as I suspect it's just another opinion here on TVF that is one of many that mean diddly squat.

Edited May 9, 2014 by djjamie