I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

I disagree. They are falling to pieces "despite" us.

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

also, we are but a drop in the ocean of GDP. We kind of don't really factor. Yeah tourist numbers do but cheap Charlie long stayers hardly make a ripple.

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

See ya then!

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

also, we are but a drop in the ocean of GDP. We kind of don't really factor. Yeah tourist numbers do but cheap Charlie long stayers hardly make a ripple.

I agree, but there a lot of us who have spent A LOT over the years, it adds up when you take into account us buying houses/condos, cars, girllfriend's, wives, kids etc and in the majority of those cases the money has been brought in to Thailand!

We are not all cheap Charlies!

I am up for my exit and re-entry stamp for my Non-Imm B visa tomorrow. Bus ticket already purchased. I'm hoping it's just tourist visa people and not those possessing actual visas.

This is bad news for many.

Oh Thailand....

Like you I have question as it seems to be avoided being answered:

1: If you have a current One Year Visa with re-entry stamp are you affected by this if you choose to do your 90 day, exit and entries?

(I know I can do at Thai Immigration next to Chiang Mai Airport Office)

2: Does this mean you cannot exit Thailand for Visit... Day, Week or Month to Burma?

(Sick friend in Burma... Our Permanent Residence/Home in Chiang Mai)

3: If so does this mean we were scammed when we purchased single or multiple re-entery permits?

There seems to be others who are confused by the minimum length the responses seem to be... If I have to fly to Yangon and drive to Border area, I will then when I go to Border I will present on Thai Side My Bill for added expenses (all receipts) when I return to Thailand. As I have current Visa and Multiple entry Permits....!

Please address questios #1, #2, #3 Seperately Please! Do like when you are asking Thai... yes... No... okay? Not me but some seemed to require specifics not long winded projections....

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

also, we are but a drop in the ocean of GDP. We kind of don't really factor. Yeah tourist numbers do but cheap Charlie long stayers hardly make a ripple.

I agree, but there a lot of us who have spent A LOT over the years, it adds up when you take into account us buying houses/condos, cars, girllfriend's, wives, kids etc and in the majority of those cases the money has been brought in to Thailand!

We are not all cheap Charlies!

I gotta say man, if your factoring that c*ap in then your living in a dream land. That stuff don't count. Yeah you spent it, hell yeah many others have too, but to think that factors into anything is to really be living in "La La Land".

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

also, we are but a drop in the ocean of GDP. We kind of don't really factor. Yeah tourist numbers do but cheap Charlie long stayers hardly make a ripple.

I agree, but there a lot of us who have spent A LOT over the years, it adds up when you take into account us buying houses/condos, cars, girllfriend's, wives, kids etc and in the majority of those cases the money has been brought in to Thailand!

We are not all cheap Charlies!

I gotta say man, if your factoring that c*ap in then your living in a dream land. That stuff don't count. Yeah you spent it, hell yeah many others have too, but to think that factors into anything is to really be living in "La La Land".

I better add that I am not saying your a CC. It's just that anyone (and that included me over the years) that is doing these 15 dayers is normally on their arse. I know, I know... Not all, but most are. Why else would you be doing the boomerang run other than you don't have the spondoolix to get a proper paper trail?

The situation causes discomfort for some, but the Thai govt should have been advising this for at least 3 months prior to commencement. Ohh yes the Thai govt is in total disarray, I forgot.

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This is beyond retarded. I am guessing that even the cheapest CC's still spend more than a local does in a year. Then ya have lots of folks who arent old enough to meet the retirement visa age, but have plenty of money/investments on which to retire, but have play the visa run game... I'm guessing they spend expenontially more in a year than a local. Yet so much effort goes into making the farang feel unwlecome. Even when you can get a proper visa, you still have to go check in every 90 days like you're on permanent parole.

This is why I have decided that I will never retire to Thailand. I am only interested in taking my retirement accounts and spending to a place that is welcoming to foreigners. Central & South America seem like a far smarter choice these days.

This is beyond retarded. I am guessing that even the cheapest CC's still spend more than a local does in a year. Then ya have lots of folks who arent old enough to meet the retirement visa age, but have plenty of money/investments on which to retire, but have play the visa run game... I'm guessing they spend expenontially more in a year than a local. Yet so much effort goes into making the farang feel unwlecome. Even when you can get a proper visa, you still have to go check in every 90 days like you're on permanent parole.

This is why I have decided that I will never retire to Thailand. I am only interested in taking my retirement accounts and spending to a place that is welcoming to foreigners. Central & South America seem like a far smarter choice these days.

See... I don't understand where this panic is at. Sure some people have been caught in this but the majority of us out here in the wilds have been aware of this nonsense for years and have acted accordingly. Long gone are the days of 30 day back to backers. Damn! That ship sailed long ago with the 100 baht daily overstay fee and the bloke you could pay to take your passport to the border and back..

So... We adapted, we want to live here see. So we went the Non Immigration route and we don't get no problems, in fact we get a smile and sometimes a joke or two about being here so long.

But relying on this 15 day nonsense. You're really asking for problems, and again I get it but really, to bleat and bemoan this action is to really not get the visa situation in the slightest.

Try doing 15 day runs in the UK!

Early last year I got 2× 90 day visas ($90 au), then come September last ($90 au) only get 2 x 60 day visas......I cannot understand the rational they have, like to make everything not so easy

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Are they turning everybody away or only those without valid visas or re-entry permits is what we need it know.

It only seems to be happening at Mae Sai. No reports for anywhere else.

Good question !! Can anybody clarify this ?

Are they turning everybody away or only those without valid visas or re-entry permits is what we need it know.

It only seems to be happening at Mae Sai. No reports for anywhere else.

Good question !! Can anybody clarify this ?

I was on a 30 day exempt and I crossed the border into Malaysia today with no issue at all. It wasn't a border run as I'm going on holiday for a month but they didn't ask anything. (I was travelling by train FYI)

"There seems to be others who are confused by the minimum length the responses seem to be... If I have to fly to Yangon and drive to Border area, I will then when I go to Border I will present on Thai Side My Bill for added expenses (all receipts) when I return to Thailand. As I have current Visa and Multiple entry Permits....! " ---from Post Number 35

I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear that conversation. You're gonna hand the guy in the uniform a bill?? Priceless!

I have the 60 day tourist visa x 3.. do visa run to Burma, no idea where we go forgotten the name, over to island where there are casinos and back again with andaman travel, think that is what they are called..

Does this apply to this visa also, or are we ok? cost a fortune to fly in and out..

One thing, this is making me decide to return home, it is just not worth the hassle.

I have the 60 day tourist visa x 3.. do visa run to Burma, no idea where we go forgotten the name, over to island where there are casinos and back again with andaman travel, think that is what they are called..

Does this apply to this visa also, or are we ok? cost a fortune to fly in and out..

One thing, this is making me decide to return home, it is just not worth the hassle.

You should be ok since you have Visas.

Are the nearby southeast asian thai consulates and embassies also cracking down or stayng the same or being more lenient?

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

Without us they would fall to pieces??? Delusional.

I have the 60 day tourist visa x 3.. do visa run to Burma, no idea where we go forgotten the name, over to island where there are casinos and back again with andaman travel, think that is what they are called..

Does this apply to this visa also, or are we ok? cost a fortune to fly in and out..

One thing, this is making me decide to return home, it is just not worth the hassle.

You should be ok since you have Visas.

thanks CP3

Are the nearby southeast asian thai consulates and embassies also cracking down or stayng the same or being more lenient?

They will be the same.

very worried now, visa run due 21st this month, some official story would be nice from you boys at TV

Mae Sai is my border bounce.

I am not going out of Thailand every certain period of time but I heard some that use Banlem and Laos. Can you not go to those places?

Ok, as this policy is brand new, it appears that the border personnel are following it above and beyond, meaning they are going to be stopping everyone until monday afternoon when they have better instruction of how to follow this from the Bangkok office. What this may mean even those with actual visas may not permitted to border cross as the one reply from Mae Sai on Americans, and Canadians with various visas not being permitted to exit Thailand stated. This thread was meant to be informative and to compile info from others to verify the extent of the enforcement of this new policy. Currently my advice for the week if you can fly, come back after a day or two, the on arrival is renewed and there will be no problems the problem is same day, same hour runs that do nothing for either countries economies. Go to a consulate or embassy on your trip and get a visa with extensions, break the cycle for a few months and test the waters after the next policy hits in August. I will be returning to Thailand in September ayer I depart in June, I will get an Ed Visa, it seems easy enough and worth the money to avoid the visa run hassle.

All land borders will be same same. You have at least the chance to fly somewhere cheap and back.

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I am up for my exit and re-entry stamp for my Non-Imm B visa tomorrow. Bus ticket already purchased. I'm hoping it's just tourist visa people and not those possessing actual visas.

This is bad news for many.

Oh Thailand....

It is not related to people who have a proper visa, like you. So no need to worry.

I have a triple entry tourist visa in my passport from Thai Embassy in London.....do you think it will affect me? I have 2 entries left to use!

I see it does not affect me....phew!

"Non-Immigrant Visa or Tourist visa holders with remaining entries on their visa can exit and enter Thailand as before"

Time to get married for an easier life!

"Time to get married for an easier life!"

Perhaps...if you can afford two houses....

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

Bye bye.

The place will get along just fine without you.

This is pretty ridiculous. Even people who have proper visas often do a couple border runs when it runs out and before they can get a new one. This affects a lot of people legitimately working or studying here, as well as legitimate tourists.

They should be able to tell the difference between someone who does the border run a few times, and someone who is living for 5 years on a border runs.

Unfortunately, those who abuse the system spoil it for the rest of us.

of course...the system is never at fault...

It is always those darn tourists screwing it all up.

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

Don't forget to get a visa for your next country, it will save you some time complaning about the laws on a other form. Have a nice trip.

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I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

also, we are but a drop in the ocean of GDP. We kind of don't really factor. Yeah tourist numbers do but cheap Charlie long stayers hardly make a ripple.

I agree, but there a lot of us who have spent A LOT over the years, it adds up when you take into account us buying houses/condos, cars, girllfriend's, wives, kids etc and in the majority of those cases the money has been brought in to Thailand!

We are not all cheap Charlies!

I gotta say man, if your factoring that c*ap in then your living in a dream land. That stuff don't count. Yeah you spent it, hell yeah many others have too, but to think that factors into anything is to really be living in "La La Land".

I better add that I am not saying your a CC. It's just that anyone (and that included me over the years) that is doing these 15 dayers is normally on their arse. I know, I know... Not all, but most are. Why else would you be doing the boomerang run other than you don't have the spondoolix to get a proper paper trail?

For me personally does not really affect me.....BUT there are times when it is not practical to fly back to my home country and a couple of 30 days can be useful.

Now I am forced to fly back, it's not the money, but the aggro!

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yeah...some guys just get upset because they bought the farm...so to speak... and have settled in.

I am here to tell you.....good for you. Great, you relocated and signed all the proper documents, and moved all your savings to the Bank of Thailand. They love ya. and I am sure you got the proper one year extension thing. Good on you.

the rest of us...well, we just are not there yet. so forgive us our indiscretions for using Thailand as a viable option to ride out the harsh winters of our homeland. We all love to get Tourist Visas...but then, somehow, well, we leave earlier than expected, but return. There goes that visa. Now, it used to be a land run or two. But that's gone now

Well....now I am being told that I must live here to stay longer than a few months. I don't really want to do that.

Get it?

I'm really getting sick and tierd of this place, without us they would fall to pieces but they dont want us, If i have a problem at any time, im going and not coming back.

Cheerio!