bigbamboo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) "Do not forsake me, oh my tee rak." Could we be heading for Thailand's 'High Noon'...? Well actually no, it couldn't. High Noon is twelve o'clock and everyone here will have gone for lunch. Edited May 11, 2014 by bigbamboo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Tezza who is this we you keep referring to? Do you actually have a vote yes or no? I don't believe you do, so stop with this we crap, this is for the Thais to sort themselves and being married to a a Thai girl doesn't give you any rights to vote either so please stop referring yourself as if you actually have a say in what's going on. If however you have PR status and have a right to vote that is fine but I don't believe you have this As you provided no link, I have no idea what posting you are refering to As per voting we are a family and vote as a family and we as a family sit and talk about all things before a decision is made I know this is strange to you as under Thaskin law, only he makes the decision and then every one else must agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Just another Final Push with different words... Got to hand it to Suthep he shows tremendous innovation in the way he articulates the final push sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The FIFA World Cup starts next month. This will all be wrapped up in a couple of weeks, or to be continued in August, September, ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep and Jatuporn exchanging blows. Bad for Thailand. Neither thinks of 'the people'. Time for elected (no matter how crooked those elections were) people, both government and opposition, to sit down and find a way out. Abhisit graciously has said not to join new elections, to take the sting out of things. If the Shins do the same. A business government agreed upon by BOTH sides can be established. Change some laws and get on with elections that all will abide by. Thailand needs a way out. Be responsible. we all want new elections, but they have to be democratic and constitutional No 1) we need freedom of speech by all parties in all areas No 2) Section 102 Enforced A person under any of the following prohibitions shall have no right to be a candidate in an election of members of the House of Representatives: (6) having been expelled, dismissed or removed from the official service, a State agency or a State enterprise on the ground of dishonest performance of duties or corruption; 3) All parties yellow and red to abide by the rule of law Ah come on Tezz, if section 102 was enforced about three quarters of PT would be out on their ear. But seriously, section 102 needs to be expanded to cover anyone with a criminal conviction. And anyone on bail or waiting for a criminal case to be heard against them should be suspended until such time they are found not guilty, if guilty the above applies. That would cover the other quarter of PT, many of the smaller parties and a few of the Dems. Then and only then could this country get a Government that would be suitable for role models for the kids. so this is your interpretation of the Law it can not be used because "three quarters of PT would be out on their ear." Only on TVF does a law only need to be enforced if it is accepted by the people who break it Do not do the crime if your not ready to do the time, is a simple answer and now you want people on bail to face the same so not innocent till found guilty has no place in you home if this LAW is upheld then we both agree Then and only then could this country get a Government that would be suitable for role models for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted and promising the Thai people all the things that they would do and then ripping them off Is called What ? How about we just say we need new reforms and start a new would that satisfy you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted Somchai. Why, that must be Thaksin's and Yingluck's bother-in-law. That would put Suthep somewhere down around 4th on the list at least. Edited May 11, 2014 by rabas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted and promising the Thai people all the things that they would do and then ripping them off Is called What ? How about we just say we need new reforms and start a new would that satisfy you ? Bring it on! Lets see the full extent of the proposed reforms now (with no room to add any more or change them later), let's see a full list of the members of the proposed People's Council with their backgrounds and let's have a firm date for the next general election now...... deathly silence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I note a certain similarity in appearance (and politics ?), between Jatuporn & Kim Jong Un, could they possibly be related ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I note a certain similarity in appearance (and politics ?), between Jatuporn & Kim Jong Un, could they possibly be related ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted May 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2014 Family voting ? That's a new concept on me considering it's supposed to be one man one vote !! You don't have a vote personally and that's the point I'm getting at what you're doing is influencing others to vote the same ideology as your self no different than vote buying really . My wife and her family couldn't care less about the politics that's going on and I personally would never dream of interfering in their political views it's just like religion you keep these things personal and don't push these views on anyone else. I respect that people want a change but at the same time I respect that people also want to vote first to make these changes who is right and who is wrong? They both have valid points . If you worked for a company that was being involved in a hostile takeover and were losing your job, would you still be cooperative to the incoming directors etc? The answe is simple no you wouldn't and you'd possible feel quite aggrieved about it as well? Put yourself in the position if the Thais who are literally quite fed up with all the crap and who want things to get back to normal just for a moment and some people need to quit using Thaksin as an excuse many people in the red villages couldn't stand the guy especially onthe village I live where they said he was stealing from Buddha but that didn't stop them from voting PTP/UDD and that is their choice, what gives us farangs the right to tell them any different? Just because were married to Thais still doesn't give us that right. Is Suthep and his peoples council the answer? Well the international community don't think so and whoever is in charge still needs to maintain diplomatic relations with the international community and as it stands right now they have been very condemning of sutheps methods and the courts procedures etc. Life goes on all over Thailand as if nothing has changed its Bangkok that has had the problems and I'm sure it's the same in your village too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Except Kim Jong Un is in complete control, though, maybe Suthep is thinking of Kim Jong Un as his neutral PM !! Should start another protest group, Kim Jong Un for PM (KJ Upm)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 "The red shirts cannot accept the undemocratic and unconstitutional appointment of a prime minister. It would be the beginning of a disaster for the country that will lead to civil war," The only language the red shirts know we get what we want or we will kill you. To both sides how about lets talk and find a solution that we all can live with. The red-shirt's stance isn't all that different from the PDRC's: "The people hope there will be a new prime minister of the people by Monday. If not, we will have no choice but to take action by ourselves. We can't allow the country to continue like this anymore," Suthep said. Basically, both say "my way or the highway". Neither Jatuporn nor Suthep is capable of reaching an agreement or have the mandate to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I note a certain similarity in appearance (and politics ?), between Jatuporn & Kim Jong Un, could they possibly be related ? If you start comparing Fat Boy Kim to Jatta the Hutt you'll be on a very slippery slope.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thaksin could pull the plug on the stand off at any time by retreating his family from politics. He could also ask Suthep and his clan to do the same for the greater good. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The level of trust between both sides is so low, not sure this could actually be brokered. Even if it does, there's really no way to enforce it, what with people sending cronies and pulling strings from the back. Most likely both will break their promise first chance or excuse they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep and Jatuporn exchanging blows. Bad for Thailand. Neither thinks of 'the people'. Time for elected (no matter how crooked those elections were) people, both government and opposition, to sit down and find a way out. Abhisit graciously has said not to join new elections, to take the sting out of things. If the Shins do the same. A business government agreed upon by BOTH sides can be established. Change some laws and get on with elections that all will abide by. Thailand needs a way out. Be responsible. we all want new elections, but they have to be democratic and constitutional No 1) we need freedom of speech by all parties in all areas No 2) Section 102 Enforced A person under any of the following prohibitions shall have no right to be a candidate in an election of members of the House of Representatives: (6) having been expelled, dismissed or removed from the official service, a State agency or a State enterprise on the ground of dishonest performance of duties or corruption; 3) All parties yellow and red to abide by the rule of law I don't have voting rights in Thailand, and I do find the family-votes-as-whole thing bizarre, not to say somewhat undemocratic. Nevertheless, I would risk campaigning for a party which will make one of its goals to fight posters copying and pasting the same passage in multiple topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thaksin could pull the plug on the stand off at any time by retreating his family from politics. He could also ask Suthep and his clan to do the same for the greater good. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I bet you any money you like that will still not satisfy Suthep. Even if what you said happened, they will still be jumping up and down demanding electoral reform ( stretched out for a number of years in order to plunder the coffers further himself ) and probably in the meantime disenfranchise the rural voters You might be right. And you might be wrong. Bear in mind that there has been no appetite thus far from either the army or Prem to support Suthep Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Tezza who is this we you keep referring to? Do you actually have a vote yes or no? I don't believe you do, so stop with this we crap, this is for the Thais to sort themselves and being married to a a Thai girl doesn't give you any rights to vote either so please stop referring yourself as if you actually have a say in what's going on. If however you have PR status and have a right to vote that is fine but I don't believe you have this In another post on another thread this poster said words to the effect of 'I make my wishes known and my wife/girlfriend acts accordingly'. So he considers himself Thai, by proxy Pretty pertinent to that which he opposes, actually Edited May 11, 2014 by jpeg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 " Idiots to the right, idiots to the left, volley and thunder, into the valley of death rides the Thai nation . " the next line is,....''Someone had blundered'' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted and promising the Thai people all the things that they would do and then ripping them off Is called What ? How about we just say we need new reforms and start a new would that satisfy you ? Bring it on! Lets see the full extent of the proposed reforms now (with no room to add any more or change them later), let's see a full list of the members of the proposed People's Council with their backgrounds and let's have a firm date for the next general election now...... deathly silence are you for real who do you want to bring it all on ? The reform has to be put together by all parties, or you think only Suthep or PTP has the rights to make reforms The basic idea starts with No 1) we need freedom of speech by all parties in all areas No 2) Section 102 Enforced A person under any of the following prohibitions shall have no right to be a candidate in an election of members of the House of Representatives: (6) having been expelled, dismissed or removed from the official service, a State agency or a State enterprise on the ground of dishonest performance of duties or corruption; 3) All parties yellow and red to abide by the rule of law then each party to present his own ideas then a full set to be made and put to the people well that is the idea that I am led to believe or do you believe it should all be done in back rooms like PTP always does some would think that "We need to reform the way that many TVF members think " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 So I guess this P.M he demands must be one of his people and only one of his people. How about the MAD MONK will he do? as long as it s not the convicted thug murdering thief hiding in Dubai - Shinawatra anyone will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted and promising the Thai people all the things that they would do and then ripping them off Is called What ? How about we just say we need new reforms and start a new would that satisfy you ? Bring it on! Lets see the full extent of the proposed reforms now (with no room to add any more or change them later), let's see a full list of the members of the proposed People's Council with their backgrounds and let's have a firm date for the next general election now...... deathly silence The biggest problem with Free Speech is that it allows a fool to talk and then show every body that he is a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The PDRC threatened to do "what is necessary" to bring about an appointed "people's government" if the caretaker administration does not resign within 72 hours. Or what? Another final battle....<deleted> you moron The only way it can be a "Peoples Government" is if the "PEOPLE" elect the government other than that it will simply be an appointed "SUTHEP" Government. or a Shinawatra paid bribed threatened and shot government that can't pay its own rice schemes .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The PDRC threatened to do "what is necessary" to bring about an appointed "people's government" if the caretaker administration does not resign within 72 hours. Or what? Another final battle....<deleted> you moron The only way it can be a "Peoples Government" is if the "PEOPLE" elect the government other than that it will simply be an appointed "SUTHEP" Government. or a Shinawatra paid bribed threatened and shot government that can't pay its own rice schemes .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Family voting ? That's a new concept on me considering it's supposed to be one man one vote !! You don't have a vote personally and that's the point I'm getting at what you're doing is influencing others to vote the same ideology as your self no different than vote buying really . My wife and her family couldn't care less about the politics that's going on and I personally would never dream of interfering in their political views it's just like religion you keep these things personal and don't push these views on anyone else. I respect that people want a change but at the same time I respect that people also want to vote first to make these changes who is right and who is wrong? They both have valid points . If you worked for a company that was being involved in a hostile takeover and were losing your job, would you still be cooperative to the incoming directors etc? The answe is simple no you wouldn't and you'd possible feel quite aggrieved about it as well? Put yourself in the position if the Thais who are literally quite fed up with all the crap and who want things to get back to normal just for a moment and some people need to quit using Thaksin as an excuse many people in the red villages couldn't stand the guy especially onthe village I live where they said he was stealing from Buddha but that didn't stop them from voting PTP/UDD and that is their choice, what gives us farangs the right to tell them any different? Just because were married to Thais still doesn't give us that right. Is Suthep and his peoples council the answer? Well the international community don't think so and whoever is in charge still needs to maintain diplomatic relations with the international community and as it stands right now they have been very condemning of sutheps methods and the courts procedures etc. Life goes on all over Thailand as if nothing has changed its Bangkok that has had the problems and I'm sure it's the same in your village too. A lot of words but I have no idea what your trying to say but if its good for you, then we are bother happy wishing you and you family the best in what you want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Tezza who is this we you keep referring to? Do you actually have a vote yes or no? I don't believe you do, so stop with this we crap, this is for the Thais to sort themselves and being married to a a Thai girl doesn't give you any rights to vote either so please stop referring yourself as if you actually have a say in what's going on. If however you have PR status and have a right to vote that is fine but I don't believe you have this In another post on another thread this poster said words to the effect of 'I make my wishes known and my wife/girlfriend acts accordingly'. So he considers himself Thai, by proxy Pretty pertinent to that which he opposes, actually As I never said these words you must be answering Haggis Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Suthep is the biggest hypocrite on this planet because of all people should be aware of the legal validity of the caretaker government. He and his Democrat Party conveniently used to the brief period of Chavarat Charnvirakul's caretaker role after Somchai Wongsawat was ousted and promising the Thai people all the things that they would do and then ripping them off Is called What ? How about we just say we need new reforms and start a new would that satisfy you ? Perhaps both sides should be sent to a reform school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 “ The PDRC threatened to do "what is necessary" to bring about an appointed "people's government" if the caretaker administration does not resign within 72 hours. “ There you go…………….. A clear statement from a “ would be” fascist leader you wouldn't know a fascist leader if it jumped out of a tree hooting "I'm a fascist leader> you only know what is passed down the buffalo line from `dubai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 "The red shirts cannot accept the undemocratic and unconstitutional appointment of a prime minister. It would be the beginning of a disaster for the country that will lead to civil war," The only language the red shirts know we get what we want or we will kill you. To both sides how about lets talk and find a solution that we all can live with. The red-shirt's stance isn't all that different from the PDRC's: "The people hope there will be a new prime minister of the people by Monday. If not, we will have no choice but to take action by ourselves. We can't allow the country to continue like this anymore," Suthep said. Basically, both say "my way or the highway". Neither Jatuporn nor Suthep is capable of reaching an agreement or have the mandate to do so. Except that Suthep is a lunatic barking on the street while the PTP government actually has the power and means to do something constructive... it would be a first, but they could if they really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Love 1012 can you not post anything without the bigoted derogatory comments? Do you happen to be less well endowed than the rest of the population? As you have a real nasty bigoted attitude going on here!! As for the comments all over about free speech , there never has been and never will be the true meaning of free speach as long as LM laws apply even TVF doesn't allow free speech otherwise there wouldn't be do many banned posters re registering. Free speech isn't free at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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