carlyai Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Living near Kuchinarari (lat. 16 32 27 N long 104 03 00 E) and would like to explore satellite TV channel reception. There is a hotel in Pattaya that has about 6 dishes, all pointing at different directions, on the roof and they seem to get all the sports channels etc. I'd like to set up a large motor driven dish (like I had before in Bali) and do the same thing from here in Isaan. In the north of Australia they have the new digital VAST network which is free to air and good channel selection. The satellite they use is the Optus C1 at location 156 degrees E. I looked up the satellite footprint and did not see it cover Thailand, but then did another search which said it 'may be possible' to get the coverage where i live. The resuts of the beam search for Optus C1 were: EIRP _41.0, Dish size >134 cm, obstruction factor = 0.46. If I purchase the VAST set top box and the other hardware, does anyone know if I could receive TV channels from the Optus satellite? Also, other satellites in the Kuchinarari footprint seem to carry the same channels as on the Optus satellite. I would particularly like to be able to watch the Ruby league matches from Australia. There must be ways I can get satellite TV channel reception other than by local providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 (1) do not waste your money on a 25 meter dish (yes 25m) as it will not work, even the commercial CAT 25m dishes down in Chomburi can not see the Optus birds (2) get an IPTV box which will do it for you. (3) or get an other payTV network that has the sport you want like Indovision or Fiji TV on IS19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 thanks very much joncl. I'll research IPTV as don't know anything about it and the other pay tv sites u suggest. i remember now that i once did a tour of the chonburi cat. I'm an old analogue man (we live in an analogue world, right?) and there were a lot of technicians there sitting down watching racing led's. being fairly new to fibre optics, and impressed by the small cable size, when I asked the bandwidth i think I remember one of the tech's saying 'from dc to light', preety impressive. But I wander, if I have further questions, should i put them on the forum or ask u directly joncl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 ask away in the forum here .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozziepete Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Have a look on http://jsat.tv/index.html Better then satellite if you have internet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Oz satellites are probably below the horizon when viewed from Thailand Depending on what you want to watch, there is a of Oz material available at The Empire torrent site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammycic Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Setanta.com. rugby, nrl & State of Origin or Across the Tasman website. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Oz satellites are probably below the horizon when viewed from Thailand No not at all, the are well with in our view, the issue is on the Ku band, there are simply no global beams or spot beams no spill over and no footprint to Thailand. See for yourself at http://www.optus.com.au/network/satellite/coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 Thanks have had a look at Fiji TV and Indosat, but forgot to remember what the free to air stuff was. If I subscribed to Fiji TV and/or Indovision, then i may as well get the local True provider as works out roughly the same. I didn't want to look at the True option as have read so many complaints about them in the forums. I wanted to stay away from the iptv option as the line of sight to two telcom towers (maybe DTAC and 12Call, not sure), runs thru the Lao Thailand HV transmission lines and i would suspect rf interferance (again not sure), also there are a couple of tree plantations in the way. Spose if I went down the IP internet branch I could get a yagi on a big bit of bamboo, attach the end to the signal in of a mobile, swing the yagi and see what happens to the signal strength, but there again signal strenght and streaming rate may not corrolate. In a late reply from Aus I have heard from Aus that you MUST use the VAST decoder in Australia. So that killed that idea of using it over here. Also the source said that you can get the vast programs in thailand depending on the lnb and dish (don't think he was thinking about a 25 m dish). But seeing you can't use it over here i would never, ever think of persuing that idea. Maybe the Chonburi CAT didn't have the correct aerial set up? Maybe I should use True? Maybe the guy in Aus doesn't know and has not looked at the footprint map of OPtus C1 (there is also another set of data that i got with the beam search that i put in my first post, but havn't worked out exactly what it means yet). Maybe finding a 12call or dtac site broadcast map may help. One thing i would like to know as well is that when they installed my vast system in the NT it had one decoder. I said I wanted to view the tv in the bedroom as well so he said just get a thru the wall tv transmitter and a rec in the bedroom and they work fine. These units are available from JCar in darwin. The bit that i missed the guy installing vast saying was (not sure about this), he would install another ouput from the LNB so I could run the thru the wall tx/rx without getting another set top box. Can anyone expand on this, as it would mean that if i go down the True option I would only need one set top box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Absolutely not a chance!! Look at IPTV solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Hi! My hobby is the satellite reception since 20 years at home in Europe I have a 3 meter channel master antenna with egis.org rotor! I visit many earth station in my life With 30 Meter antenna Most of them you can See in braziil Here in Thailand I have 2,49 mesh dynasat Full size dishes with great quality Are not avalible in Thailand ! How you will transport a 30 meter dish! When you find a sponsor pay the cargo would be interesting to know what you can get more In Kuband The austrialian beams disappear after Indonesia in Bali reception with 2,40 m dish is possible Only astralia network you can receive in Thailand fta In Europe I have encrypted signal on 68 e cband for Australia network India still not have a smart card for it! Send pm when you have time! Philippine in Kuband also no signal since satellite change .. Here in Thailand Cband you can receive everywhere When you have free view Thaicom in Europe also possible with large dish! Ip tv not have something to do with The hobby satellite dx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I don't think anybody has seriously suggested using a 30M dish (Called an 'Intelsat Standard A' by the way) these dishes are about 30 - 40 years old and cost $5 Million then.. Even with such a large dish, it still wouldn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 And finding a installer in Thai Could be a new episode of mission imposissible Some vast company's install worldwide But operators of earth station told be many times , the risk of transport damage is very high Then the antenna is warped ,no signal gain put in the bin and no insurance there pay you 5 million dollar when your name is not ESA or NASA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 sorry if this is a stupid question, but what about iptv reception via satellite, then to my computer. any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 IPTV is received with an internet connection not satellite dish... You will need a reasonably good internet line (forget 3G mobile internet)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 No not at all, the are well with in our view, the issue is on the Ku band, there are simply no global beams or spot beams no spill over and no footprint to Thailand. @Joncl Yes you are right I was forgetting about the tight footprints generally used for Ku band :bah: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 You will need a reasonably good internet line (forget 3G mobile internet)... Not true at all - here is Sky News HD via 3G on my Tablet .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I wonder how long your data package will last before it grinds to a halt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 never reached my monthly limit yet, so I guess the answer is somewhere over a month. The point is and was that 3G does IPTV just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 never reached my monthly limit yet, so I guess the answer is somewhere over a month. The point is and was that 3G does IPTV just fine. So you are actually putting this across to the guy as being viable?? I guess he'd be wasting his money and not yours! Let assume your IPTV is a low datarate like 1 Mbps Most of the better 3G packages are around 3GB and costing around 800 Baht (some are up to 10GB costing a lot more, others are only 1GB) 1 Second (1 Mbps = 0.125 MB per second) 1 Minute = 0.125 MB x 60 = 7.5 MB per minute 1 hour = 7.5 MB x 60 = 450 MB 6 hours 40 minutes = 3000 MB (3GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 You have a pension for going why off topic I see. No I was not suggesting he did this, if I was I would have suggested it as you did. And for the reason you stated re: data usage, is why I did not suggest it. I was however, taking exception to your comment that 3G would not do IPTV which clearly is the opposite to what you stated above, it does it just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Here in Thailand I have 2,49 mesh dynasat What satellite(s) are you receiving with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 66 East to 169 East with Motor! Cand. and Kuband! And a Single 2 Meter Dish For Indovision sband. Still looking for a decoder box !, very difficult to get! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Any HD DreamBox will do it as they handle the 2ghz LO IF 100%. The LNB is the issue as it is really big and not easy to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes lof is 3620 European sband for police helicopter camera and public security cameras lof 3625 range! Sband lnb I bought direct in Bali But you also get on alibaba when you min order 10 Comes from mti Taiwan but this company never replys to mails Indovision shop in Denpasar not want give me a box a installer want come same true here also when you have a antenna allready! About the sband signal in bk and ne Reception ok with 2,4 In Chiang may with 3 meter no signal! In attach picture of setup In Europe when I come home I make kaband tests lnb around 600 € The Dish must have good quality old school out of production right now Andrew prodelin etc and a exactly attached feedhorn because kaband range very high In attach picture of my sband setup 108,2 east![attachment=267631:ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1400581310.003013.jpg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 About the sband signal in bk and ne Reception ok with 2,4 In Chiang may with 3 meter no signal! In attach picture of setup A simple little dynasat 5.5 foot Cband dish will work very well in Bangkok at least mine did. BTW unless you put longer LNB legs on your dish, you have a problem as your FP with your pictured Sband LNB will be way off it they are original legs for that dish. 65db on a 5.5 foot dynasat dish, but I forget the full CNR readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 High! Most cband dish many factor also kti in the past have to short ones How many db you have in bk signal strength ? Iam In process of fine adjusting Currecly 6,5 db in night time better Then on day time Astro Malaysia signal .12,6 db Hd sometime .6 db often disappear Please pm me about indovision box if you have a source thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avander Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Setanta.com. rugby, nrl & State of Origin or Across the Tasman website. Hi Sammy, If you (or anyone else registered) can do me a kindness of providing an invite to AcrossTheTasman.com I would be very grateful. I would love to get access to the ARL State of Origin Telecasts (even if "delayed").and as it's the only ARL I watch I would rather not have to spend the money to subscribe to Setanta for 3 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think i have to go down the satellite path as I don't think my internet will every be reliable and satisfactory. So that leaves me with FijiTV (good free to air programs and upgradable to Fiji1), Indovision (but seems a problem obtaining some hardware), IS19 (not investigated yet) and Astro Malasia. My next question is where to buy a motorized satellite dish and set top box that can access FijiTV, Indovision, IS19 and Astro plus others in our footprint. When i was in china, a while ago, the guy next door had a satellite setup with Astro (i think). The set top box was made in China and he had a selection for decoder cards that he changed when security changed. Are options like that still avaliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Could I get an invitation to AcrossTheTasman.com to please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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