Lite Beer Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 CRACKDOWN ON DRUGSPolice told to get better resultsPiyanut TumnukasetchaiThe Nation BANGKOK: -- NCPO says ONCB should focus on quality; officials warnedThe National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) has given 30 days for drug-suppression units to deliver tangible, better results. Quality - not quantity - should be the focus, it said.Pongsapat Pongcharoen, secretary general of the Office of Narcotics Control Board (ONCB), spoke after attending a meeting yesterday chaired by the Army's assistant chief Paiboon Koomchaya, who now oversees legal and judicial affairs for the NCPO.He said officials strictly must not be involved in trading illicit drugs."We will use mechanisms that allow us to identify problematic zones within 30 days. That way, we will know whether any official has been negligent or involved in drug trafficking," Pongsapat said.He vowed to take action against wayward officials and to reward good performers.Apart from conducting searches and raids to arrest drug traffickers, he said officials must also monitor former drug abusers who have already completed drug-treatment programmes."We must try to ensure that they are not going back to the illicit drugs," Pongsapat said. He also planned to use asset-seizure as a measure to deter drug trafficking and to pay close attention to jailed drug convicts.He said Paiboon had instructed relevant authorities to prevent drug dealing from behind bars. Several inmates have reportedly managed to secretly bring cell phones into correctional facilities and used them to arrange drug trafficking."We will seriously tackle this problem," Pongsapat said.Representatives from 15 agencies, including the ONCB, met with Paiboon yesterday.In a related development, a team of police and soldiers engaged in a gunfight with suspected drug traffickers in the border province of Beung Kan in the far Northeast early yesterday.Following the exchange of gunfire, drug traffickers retreated into a boat on the Mekong River and sped away. The group, of seven to eight men, left behind six sacks. An inspection of the sacks revealed they were stuffed with 240 kilograms of marijuana. The haul is worth about Bt2.4 million.Beung Kan police chief Maj General Chaiporn Panich-atta said security officials saw a "suspicious" Toyota Fortuner leaving the scene during the gunfire."We believe that vehicle might have gone there to pick up drugs but left after noticing officials," he said. -- The Nation 2014-06-07 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkgooner Posted June 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2014 I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted June 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2014 I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth It's based on the Nth Korean model where everyone unconditionally supports little kimmie and the military or else. More brainwashing and the ability to have individual thoughts and feelings has to be removed from Thais then there is be no more Suthep protests and everyone will walk around like robots with exactly the same thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F1cYb9xYQIU 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted June 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2014 Private Benjamin is really cracking the whip on the bibs! Love it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Must be some nervous BIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted June 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2014 Didn't Thaksin have a way of dealing with drug dealers? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Fill/build more jails to incarcerate all the lowest level dealers/users, but never, ever go after the big fish. Gotta think the Military has eyes and ears on the borders/rivers/coastline - they are tasked with defending the country from external threats - not just internal ones, but maybe...oh, never mind. They can do no wrong at present. And, I thought that the RTP needed to be "reformed"? Did that happen with all those re-assignments? Edited June 6, 2014 by lomatopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggo Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 It's the mindset that is boggling! he said that officials strictly must not be involved in trading illicit drugs" Surely they wouldn't do such a thing!!!! Sent from my i-mobile IQ 2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezzainoz Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 Didn't Thaksin have a way of dealing with drug dealers? Yes if you shoot 10 people at least 10% will have some thing to do with drugs the other 90% are just expendable Thais 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doctorproc156 Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post winstonc Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that so whats your solution carry on as normal,there is some awful drugs out there nowadays..i dont mean grass.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Didn't Thaksin have a way of dealing with drug dealers? Yes indeed, and look what that little episode did to his political career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doctorproc156 Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that so whats your solution carry on as normal,there is some awful drugs out there nowadays..i dont mean grass.. The most awful of drugs like Oxycontin and various Bath Salts are completely legal. And yes I mean legalize all of it from grass to Ya Ba and Heroin. If there is demand, there will always be a supply, and the recent spate of drug killings shows you that even thousands of deaths cannot stop the drug trade, the profits and demand is just too high. Efforts should be made to educate people, especially teenagers on how certain drugs affect and damage your body. If it was legalized, it could be regulated so that it would be out of reach from teenagers. Im sure there are plenty of drug dealers who sell Ya Ba to kids without even caring a single bit. And anyway, once really good quality cannabis, ecstasy (which is much safer than tobacco and alcohol), mushrooms and LSD are legalized, the demand for extremely dangerous drugs like Ya Ba and Heroin will die a natural death. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think they should make every effort to stamp out drugs....but it will not be 100% effective. It's a bit like poisoning rabbits back home in Oz. You will get 99% but the others will slip away and start breeding somewhere else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stradavarius37 Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth It's based on the Nth Korean model where everyone unconditionally supports little kimmie and the military or else. More brainwashing and the ability to have individual thoughts and feelings has to be removed from Thais then there is be no more Suthep protests and everyone will walk around like robots with exactly the same thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F1cYb9xYQIU Sounds like "Chooka's World"! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stradavarius37 Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Didn't Thaksin have a way of dealing with drug dealers? You mean by ordering them ex-judicially killed in the thousands? Yes, Thaksin certainly was a charmer... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth It's based on the Nth Korean model where everyone unconditionally supports little kimmie and the military or else. More brainwashing and the ability to have individual thoughts and feelings has to be removed from Thais then there is be no more Suthep protests and everyone will walk around like robots with exactly the same thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F1cYb9xYQIU And the English model with God save the Queen and the American model with God save the USA and the French model and the Roman Catholic model etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think they should make every effort to stamp out drugs....but it will not be 100% effective. It's a bit like poisoning rabbits back home in Oz. You will get 99% but the others will slip away and start breeding somewhere else. Interesting analogy - however people who deal in drugs are more like cane toads Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 What will it cost ( bribe ) for the police to get better results ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think they should make every effort to stamp out drugs....but it will not be 100% effective. It's a bit like poisoning rabbits back home in Oz. You will get 99% but the others will slip away and start breeding somewhere else. Just like the Catholic Tony dumb dumbs in the LNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that The harder they try, they higher the profit margin. The higher the profit margin, the more people who are tempted to enter the trade. You are 100% correct. The same goes with prostitution and gambling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth It's based on the Nth Korean model where everyone unconditionally supports little kimmie and the military or else. More brainwashing and the ability to have individual thoughts and feelings has to be removed from Thais then there is be no more Suthep protests and everyone will walk around like robots with exactly the same thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F1cYb9xYQIU Ha Ha ha !! Not working out so well for you now Red Chook. The Red Brainwashing is being reversed and the reds are going to jail for all their crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 It is not a matter of better results it is a matter of education knowledge, if you have a bad education then results will be accordingly , dismal , most of the police force would be in this division , until you attract a better class of Police student with some sense of knowledge the right pay and conditions ,you will never get better results, as like the Education plans we keep hearing about , nothing will become of this , to do so means improving Thailand's education system , which should be by now on a par with Malaysia , yer dream-in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tokay Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 Don't know about you, but the forced happiness being passed around the county is contagious. I can't wipe the smile off my face. Thank you junta! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Well. . . Its a start, officials not involved in drug trade and the police needs to get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that so whats your solution carry on as normal,there is some awful drugs out there nowadays..i dont mean grass.. The mere using of illicit drugs in clearly not the problem. Not everyone who uses illicit drugs will abuse them. A small percentage of drug users will develop abuse problems (as with alcohol) and can be plucked out of their situation and treated for a fraction of what enforcement costs. Some of the hidden costs of enforcement are the corrupting of the police and enriching of the mafia. So many persons in the world use illicit drugs and yet the world goes on. Switzerland and the Netherlands are examples of countries that treat illicit drug use as health issues and nobody would argue that those countries are dysfunctional. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 You will never get rid of drugs, if you can't even get rid of it in prison... When are these fools going to realize that Correct, you will never completely eradicate drugs anywhere, but you can sure make it hell and extremely difficult to operate which in turn might just reduce the level of use. Especially if they target the top of the supply chain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Decriminalization in Portugal over the past ~ 12 years has been viewed as generally positive. But we all know Thailand is unique, and only native solutions will be acceptable here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 I don't know the army are starting to win me over with the way they are scolding the police into actually doing some work But then you have Prauth talking about the need for kids to learn about "being Thai" more in schools like they haven't all been getting that knocked into their heads since birth It's based on the Nth Korean model where everyone unconditionally supports little kimmie and the military or else. More brainwashing and the ability to have individual thoughts and feelings has to be removed from Thais then there is be no more Suthep protests and everyone will walk around like robots with exactly the same thoughts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F1cYb9xYQIU Ha Ha ha !! Not working out so well for you now Red Chook. The Red Brainwashing is being reversed and the reds are going to jail for all their crimes. Actually I think the reds are low life pieces of trash and their leader should be in jail, so if that makes a red supporter then so be it. I also think the other side is just as bad. The people caught in the middle are the ones I really support. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 Pol Gen Pongsapat ‘Judy’ Pongcharoen is the ‘telephone poll’ that Thaksin thought could win the post of Bangkok Governor for him. The NCPO have tasked him with a dilemma as he will have to suppress his ‘brothers’ in the RTA to make any real dent in the drug trade. Will he ask for ‘volunteers’ to get out of the business? Would any of them voluntarily give up their, very lucrative, drug businesses? I don't think so. He will fail and it will be the excuse the NCPO needs to get rid of yet one more Thaksin lackey. On a side note, it is a sorry state of affairs when the main drivers of the drug trade are within the police department itself. For politicians to get the police on their side, they have to 'look the other way' and allow them to continue with their criminal enterprises. Much of ills in Thai society come from 'looking the other way'. Mai bpen rai is their mantra. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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