muchogra Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thais do have a pecking order like respecting the elders, elders in the family, people in position (not necessarily a good trait). But soon this pecking order will vanish when they get more westernized Wishfull thinking young man...... Wishful thinking in which aspect? It's not wishful thinking, it's what it's becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thais do have a pecking order like respecting the elders, elders in the family, people in position (not necessarily a good trait). But soon this pecking order will vanish when they get more westernizedWishfull thinking young man...... Wishful thinking in which aspect? It's not wishful thinking, it's what it's becoming. Soon.....and......more westernized..... Generations generations it will take....if it ever will become like you think. Living without hope, if you do ofcourse, is not living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 A Sad topic of abused women not really funny < a Thai woman rights are usual just above a soy dog in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchogra Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Thais do have a pecking order like respecting the elders, elders in the family, people in position (not necessarily a good trait). But soon this pecking order will vanish when they get more westernizedWishfull thinking young man...... Wishful thinking in which aspect? It's not wishful thinking, it's what it's becoming. Soon.....and......more westernized..... Generations generations it will take....if it ever will become like you think. Living without hope, if you do ofcourse, is not living. "Soon.....and......more westernized....." Is that a good thing or a bad thing? However, judging from this (from your comment): "Living without hope, if you do ofcourse, is not living.", it seems you have a high regard of what the West is and is becoming and a very low, and even insulting, opinion of the Asian communities! If I have interpreted you wrongly, I apologize apriori! I left the West because I see it deterioting both socially and morally where individual freedom and liberty are their vitamins to survive and proud of in an environment with no happiness and , yes, no pecking order! The divorce rate is 50% and women screw around like men! Edited June 13, 2014 by muchogra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thais do have a pecking order like respecting the elders, elders in the family, people in position (not necessarily a good trait). But soon this pecking order will vanish when they get more westernizedWishfull thinking young man...... Wishful thinking in which aspect? It's not wishful thinking, it's what it's becoming. Soon.....and......more westernized..... Generations generations it will take....if it ever will become like you think. Living without hope, if you do ofcourse, is not living. "Soon.....and......more westernized....." Is that a good thing or a bad thing? However, judging from this (from your comment): "Living without hope, if you do ofcourse, is not living.", it seems you have a high regard of what the West is and is becoming and a very low, and even insulting, opinion of the Asian communities! If I have interpreted you wrongly, I apologize apriori! I left the West because I see it deterioting both socially and morally where individual freedom and liberty are their vitamins to survive and proud of in an environment with no happiness and , yes, no pecking order! The divorce rate is 50% and women screw around like men! I guess we both understood each other not correct. Well at least i read your orginal comment on the wrong way. A pecking order is always present in any society. So even in the West. My personal take is that morality is more a western concept than an eastern. Christianity being the resson for it, maybe...dunno for sure. Here in thailand people in general life a life a conformity, apart from places like Pattaya, Phuket etc, so, based on my experiences their individual behaviour is more restricted than in the West. Thsis will remain Thais and for me they can stay that way.....if i not had children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchogra Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "...morality is more a western concept than an eastern." Really? Again, you seem to put yourself in a moral high ground just because you are from the West! I advise you to re-examine what has been going on in the West. To me, it's decaying where normal people are losing ground and traditional values are disappearing. Don't use your yardstick from a few decades ago and then judge the East! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "...morality is more a western concept than an eastern." Really? Again, you seem to put yourself in a moral high ground just because you are from the West! I advise you to re-examine what has been going on in the West. To me, it's decaying where normal people are losing ground and traditional values are disappearing. Don't use your yardstick from a few decades ago and then judge the East! Not because i am from the West. Maybe it is because i am who i am. Not that i am really proud of myself though, but in certain aspects of life i, naively maybe, live on the moral high ground. Brings me nothing though. Only ease of mind and heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The OP appears to have forgotten Buddhist monks in his post. They might not look important from his barstool but they occupy a place of high privilege in Thai society... I have no idea why, always the ultimate con! The sad sad thing is it works, priests, monks, nuns, popes blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Diety Man with big gun Man with big money Man with small gun Man Cambodian Dog cockroach you need "lying man" between man with small gun and man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringogazzer Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Lao wife on par with falang because she has mid 30's stud of a falang husband with property and cash. Nothing odd. But she's taken for Thai so above everyone on here, she's chuffed. I threw the stud part in but don't believe it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimate weapon Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Farangs are judged on who they are married to. Any poor girl or man married to an old farang will always been seen as a hooker whether she or he is or not. Any man or woman with a hooker will always be seen as the lowest of the low. They are seen by Thai men as to be used for the purpose and that's it, and pretty much all Thai women hate them. As previously posted money talks and buys your education in this country and farangs are judged on how much their partners family have. As for teachers being held in high regard , maybe in the boonies, but in industrial Thailand they are nobodies. Money talks. Speaking of hooker is there a definition in thai society on that since i understand many normal thai ladies in normal professions like models, teachers do go overseas and have sex for money but i don't think they are called hookers. Are they like massage palor girls, ago ago girls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellohello123 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Serious question, no smart ass responses I know of two sisters who were born in udon thani to farming parents both are very pale, tall and skinny and attractive Both went to university One now works in an office job, The other did some business and did quite well and now works In a office Both now live in bkk Both now roam the hiso scene, with their cars, jewerely, branded stuff, lubes etc etc From a thai perspective , is your class based on where you are born? Or the circles you move around in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Serious question, no smart ass responses I know of two sisters who were born in udon thani to farming parents both are very pale, tall and skinny and attractive Both went to university One now works in an office job, The other did some business and did quite well and now works In a office Both now live in bkk Both now roam the hiso scene, with their cars, jewerely, branded stuff, lubes etc etc From a thai perspective , is your class based on where you are born? Or the circles you move around in? My experience, where and how one was raised. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Who cares find a hobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdanielmcev Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 In the short amount of time I've been here, definitely money talks. I'd say the military ranks #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I think more discussion would have started if you ranked nationalitiesEg, USA, uk, European, Australian, Japanese, Korean, rest of Asia, Indian, middle eastern, AfricanAnyone game to rank? Brittania still rules ? Apparently not Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Serious question, no smart ass responses I know of two sisters who were born in udon thani to farming parents both are very pale, tall and skinny and attractive Both went to university One now works in an office job, The other did some business and did quite well and now works In a office Both now live in bkk Both now roam the hiso scene, with their cars, jewerely, branded stuff, lubes etc etc From a thai perspective , is your class based on where you are born? Or the circles you move around in? Ethnic background and skin color. Just because they move in high circles, doesn't mean everyone else isn't looking down on them. They also won't be permitted to marry into the high circles, but might be used as ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 You cannot put farang into a list of Thai society full stop. Skin colour is sometimes deceptive. I had a brief fling once with a girl who had relatively dark skin. We only did manage once to get out in public together due to her being dropped off/picked up at the school I worked at by a driver/bodyguard. Her father was Minister of Defense. I have a friend who has an Isarn look who is hi so - grandfather was the King of laos - where would she fit in in your list? I have another friend with dark skin whose father is a billionaire - owns many companies including Tipco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The OP appears to have forgotten Buddhist monks in his post. They might not look important from his barstool but they occupy a place of high privilege in Thai society... In the west, we call people that predict winning lottery numbers and promise "a happy live" for a fee of 5000 Bht charlatans or simply "white collar criminals". The easiest victims are found among the most uneducated and poorest of the Thai population. Cheers. That reminds me our Temple currently has a charity lottery. PM me your credit card numbers with exp. date. The lucky number drawn gets a 5M baht prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkbauer Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) A lot of you are showing the type of people you hang around if you believe farang are low on the "pecking order". In fact, just by mentioning "bar girls" on a list like this shows a lot. It's a small enough segment in Thailand where putting "7/11 workers" makes more sense, and the only person who would care enough to tack it on is one familiar with that group. I go to one of the top two universities in Thailand and speak the language at an advanced, if not yet fluent level. One of the first things I noticed is that the higher up in Thai society you go, the more favorable the opinion toward foreigners is. This is likely because of the many chances the hi-so Thais get to travel, study and live abroad. Of course, tuk-tuk drivers may have a different opinion. But who cares what they think? Their opinion is not relevant to anyone of even minor importance in Thailand. The person who said that "the order depends on who is judging" is right. Any pecking order that exists is limited to Thais, at least by the upper-middle-class and higher. Believe it or not, many Thais are actually intelligent enough to realize that their own class system cannot apply to foreigners. There can be exceptions for the "less desireable" races, but I also see a large respect for Indian/Arab members of the community depending on who they are and where they come from Also, hi-so Thais with darker skin can absolutely be treated the same as one with lighter skin. However, they may need to break some first impressions and assumptions when they initially meet someone. Edited June 14, 2014 by rkbauer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Don't daydream. A farang is a farang is a farang................and is still a farang in year 2014! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaRain Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I have more pages to read, but... 1. ASIANS.. 2. Whitened Asians 3. Money 4. Repeat AlohZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post godden Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 I've always found it's the family first, then the dog then the fleas on the dog then the ATM (farang) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Money talks... Yup that's why the rich ones are listed up higher. It's the same in almost every country in the world. I don't you will see a country where a vagabond is ranked higher than a rich man. Well Well;;We all better start packing and go home;;;;if they let us back in;;;;; 55,55,55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seastallion Posted June 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2014 To climb up the social-ladder: Use liberal amounts of Skin-Whitening cream or marry a Farang. Cheers. A whore who marries a farang is still a whore, however her husband becomes a man who married a whore. ie, she stays the same, he goes down a notch. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Serious question, no smart ass responses I know of two sisters who were born in udon thani to farming parents both are very pale, tall and skinny and attractive Both went to university One now works in an office job, The other did some business and did quite well and now works In a office Both now live in bkk Both now roam the hiso scene, with their cars, jewerely, branded stuff, lubes etc etc From a thai perspective , is your class based on where you are born? Or the circles you move around in? Just as in the West,I think truly classy people (Thais) see through nuveau riche social climbers. At some point in time their humble backgrounds always show through with a word or an accent, manners etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arminbkk Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I can tell I'm not high on the pecking order when Thais see me sitting in a 7 baht bus on Thonglor. When I get out of my boss' BMW with driver, it is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Whoever has the best show.i drove an old pickup truck the last 3 years. Little respect from thai drivers. Decided to buy a 1 million baht car. I am getting a lot more respect now. Need to say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweratradio Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) Nationalities list at U.S. first and Canada not mentioned. LOL. Must be because yanks are so embarrassed to have to wear Canadian flags on their collars and backpack to get accepted in most European countries. If a Canadian is asked if he is an American the fight is on. Edited June 14, 2014 by poweratradio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmac10 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I think more discussion would have started if you ranked nationalities Eg, USA, uk, European, Australian, Japanese, Korean, rest of Asia, Indian, middle eastern, African Anyone game to rank? Brittania still rules ? only in their own minds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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