webfact Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Kenya's famous bull elephant Satao slain in Tsavo by poachers with poison arrowsTSAVO: -- ONE of Africa’s largest and best-known elephants has died after being shot by poachers using poisoned arrows.Wildlife officials in Kenya at the weekend revealed the loss of the “old friend” known as Satao, who was famed for his giant tusks — the big-money target for his killers.The bull animal, who was aged around 45, was slain in May in Kenya’s vast southeastern Tsavo national park.He was thought to have been the continent’s biggest elephant — or certainly one of them — which would make him the largest wild land mammal in the world. His tusks were so large they could drag on the ground.The Tsavo Trust, which works to protect the wilderness and its animals, announced the death “with great sadness” for one of the “most iconic and well-loved tuskers.”Full story: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/kenyas-famous-bull-elephant-satao-slain-in-tsavo-by-poachers-with-poison-arrows/story-e6frfq80-1226955859080-- News.com.au 2014-06-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClutchClark Posted June 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2014 This type of news just hurts my heart. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted June 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2014 I blame the poachers, I blame the people that buy the elephant tusks to decorate their houses. Lot's of ignorant and arrogant people in this world. As ClutchClark said "This type of news just hurts my heart." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sick people, killing such an animal for money. I hope they get shot with poisoned arrows and suffer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sick, sick people. I can't comprehend it. I don't mean to sound unfeeling because I'm not, but under the circumstances I hope he was able to pass on his genes over the years so that maybe there will be more like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folium Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sick, sick people. I can't comprehend it. I don't mean to sound unfeeling because I'm not, but under the circumstances I hope he was able to pass on his genes over the years so that maybe there will be more like him. Sadly even with some impact from a slowing of Chinese demand, elephants are still being killed at an unsustainable rate. In 2013 an estimated 20,000 + were poached. Unless the demand for Ivory is addressed elephants will soon no longer exist in the wild. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27839502 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neverdie Posted June 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2014 This type of news just hurts my heart. Human Being are the most destructive creature to walk the face of the earth, despicable things. I agree with you, my heart hurts and I hope both the bastards that shot this wonderful creature and the ignoramus that purchases the ivory all die slow painful deaths, mongrels ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Globalist Posted June 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2014 As mentioned by folium above, it's actually not poachers that ultimately kill these magnificent animals. It's mainly the Chinese. Elephants, Rhinos, Bears, Tigers, Sharks, all threatened to extinction largely due to ageing Chinese men's supersticion and reluctance to use western medication (Viagra) for their erectile dysfunction.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRThailand Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Homo sapiens cannot be the end product of evolution. There just has got to be a more intelligent species somewhere in the cosmos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 At the rate we are going, we may well be the end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverchapel Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 people lets just kill everything around us and let's see if we survive alone on Earth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcc76 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Humans use a tremendous amount of the Earth's resources and don't have a good record of sharing space with other creatures. It's not that humans are innately evil, it's just that we are basically selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Homo sapiens cannot be the end product of evolution. There just has got to be a more intelligent species somewhere in the cosmos. One crackpot theory I heard was that the earth is a intergalactic penal colony. That would explain a lot. Maybe not so crackpot after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve. Most humans are good? I come from the Thomas Hobbs school of philosophy... Tell that one to Indian women... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 This type of news just hurts my heart. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folium Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If this slaughter makes you want to do something, these guys are doing a great job but are fighting a losing battle (at present)... http://www.tusk.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) This type of news just hurts my heart. There are too many idiots with rifles on this planet.They kill animals- and call it a ‘sport’- these creatures lived in peace on this planet for thousands of years, probably before mankind. I wish this guy- James Hetfield, guitarist of Metallica- would have stood unarmed in front of this bear. It reminds me on a song line of CSNY: “a man’s a man who looks a man right between the eyes” But idiocy seems to be a world wide epidemic: : Edited June 16, 2014 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) The mighty =Satao= Edited June 16, 2014 by ALFREDO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepInTheForest Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve. Yes, some groups are subhuman and never seem to evolve-- many Europeans, for example, and USAns, as well as many Chinese, and Russians. No country seems exempt from their predations, whether it be from outright military war, or economic war. Although of late, to be fair, the US and European nations have a leg up in this regard on the Russians, and definitely on the Chinese. Their history of rape, torture, and pillage is well-documented, and continues today. They seem unable to rein in their base drives for power, money, sex and petroleum, and even though the planet is critically endangered by their ways, they cannot seem to stop themselves. It is no wonder their "great white hunters" came to Africa to slaughter dozens of thousands of elephants. One could say they are victim of their own circumstances in that the environment that spawned them continually reinforces memes of domination and materialism, but even when they become expatriates in other countries, they continue to demonstrate a complete lack of moral compass. No need to bash the entire race, though. The above does not apply to all citizens of the larger nations (I have met some who have overcome their unfortunate backgrounds), and there are people, usually in smaller countries, who manage to maintain a dignity that is quite remarkable given the dominant operating paradigm of our world nowadays. Edited June 16, 2014 by DeepInTheForest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve.Yes, some groups are subhuman and never seem to evolve-- many Europeans, for example, and USAns, as well as many Chinese, and Russians. No country seems exempt from their predations, whether it be from outright military war, or economic war. Although of late, to be fair, the US and European nations have a leg up in this regard on the Russians, and definitely on the Chinese.Their history of rape, torture, and pillage is well-documented, and continues today. They seem unable to rein in their base drives for power, money, sex and petroleum, and even though the planet is critically endangered by their ways, they cannot seem to stop themselves. It is no wonder their "great white hunters" came to Africa to slaughter dozens of thousands of elephants. One could say they are victim of their own circumstances in that the environment that spawned them continually reinforces memes of domination and materialism, but even when they become expatriates in other countries, they continue to demonstrate a complete lack of moral compass. No need to bash the entire race, though. The above does not apply to all citizens of the larger nations (I have met some who have overcome their unfortunate backgrounds), and there are people, usually in smaller countries, who manage to maintain a dignity that is quite remarkable given the dominant operating paradigm of our world nowadays. I think its time to focus--this is a topic about poachers and the absence of strong conservation efforts in Africa. As far as your statement about the US, it was a leader in conservation efforts since the Teddy Roosevelt era and continues to have a strong environmental track record, including education, legislation and enforcement. The US does not allow the wholesale slaughter of any of its endangered species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve.Yes, some groups are subhuman and never seem to evolve-- many Europeans, for example, and USAns, as well as many Chinese, and Russians. No country seems exempt from their predations, whether it be from outright military war, or economic war. Although of late, to be fair, the US and European nations have a leg up in this regard on the Russians, and definitely on the Chinese.Their history of rape, torture, and pillage is well-documented, and continues today. They seem unable to rein in their base drives for power, money, sex and petroleum, and even though the planet is critically endangered by their ways, they cannot seem to stop themselves. It is no wonder their "great white hunters" came to Africa to slaughter dozens of thousands of elephants. One could say they are victim of their own circumstances in that the environment that spawned them continually reinforces memes of domination and materialism, but even when they become expatriates in other countries, they continue to demonstrate a complete lack of moral compass. No need to bash the entire race, though. The above does not apply to all citizens of the larger nations (I have met some who have overcome their unfortunate backgrounds), and there are people, usually in smaller countries, who manage to maintain a dignity that is quite remarkable given the dominant operating paradigm of our world nowadays. I think its time to focus--this is a topic about poachers and the absence of strong conservation efforts in Africa.As far as your statement about the US, it was a leader in conservation efforts since the Teddy Roosevelt era and continues to have a strong environmental track record, including education, legislation and enforcement. The US does not allow the wholesale slaughter of any of its endangered species. No but it allows its citizens to go to Africa and shoot canned lions and various other species, like that stupid b*tch who was such as big "hero" shooting a "caged " lion, if she such a good hunter throw her out in the bush on her own with prides of wild lions about with a bow and a water bottle, and let's see how good she is Edited June 17, 2014 by Soutpeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcc76 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve.Yes, some groups are subhuman and never seem to evolve-- many Europeans, for example, and USAns, as well as many Chinese, and Russians. No country seems exempt from their predations, whether it be from outright military war, or economic war. Although of late, to be fair, the US and European nations have a leg up in this regard on the Russians, and definitely on the Chinese.Their history of rape, torture, and pillage is well-documented, and continues today. They seem unable to rein in their base drives for power, money, sex and petroleum, and even though the planet is critically endangered by their ways, they cannot seem to stop themselves. It is no wonder their "great white hunters" came to Africa to slaughter dozens of thousands of elephants. One could say they are victim of their own circumstances in that the environment that spawned them continually reinforces memes of domination and materialism, but even when they become expatriates in other countries, they continue to demonstrate a complete lack of moral compass. No need to bash the entire race, though. The above does not apply to all citizens of the larger nations (I have met some who have overcome their unfortunate backgrounds), and there are people, usually in smaller countries, who manage to maintain a dignity that is quite remarkable given the dominant operating paradigm of our world nowadays. I think its time to focus--this is a topic about poachers and the absence of strong conservation efforts in Africa.As far as your statement about the US, it was a leader in conservation efforts since the Teddy Roosevelt era and continues to have a strong environmental track record, including education, legislation and enforcement. The US does not allow the wholesale slaughter of any of its endangered species. No but it allows its citizens to go to Africa and shoot canned lions and various other species, like that stupid b*tch who was such as big "hero" shooting a "caged " lion, if she such a good hunter throw her out in the bush on her own with prides of wild lions about with a bow and a water bottle, and let's see how good she is Sure, there are idiots in the US, but what percentage of the US population goes on safaris in Africa to shoot big game? Funny how this one example clouds or biases your judgment about an entire country of basically good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Off-topic post deleted. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Homo sapiens cannot be the end product of evolution. There just has got to be a more intelligent species somewhere in the cosmos. Are you kidding? There are more than a few on this planet already. Take the dolphins. What do humans do? Work like dogs, get stressed out, then die. The dolphins just play all day in the sea. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 No need to get all dramatic and fatalistic about the entire human race. Most humans are good and lead a positive life. Certain groups of people, including many Kenyans, are the exception, not the rule. These people are subhuman, lack any morals and place no value on any life be it animal or human. These peoe rape, torture and pillage innocent humans so no surprise they care nothing about animals. One couldd say they are victim of their own circumstances in countries such as Kenya, but they act as bad or demonstrate a complete lack of moral compas even when living in countries with better opportunities. No need to bash entire human race simply because certain groups have not and apparently will never evolve.Yes, some groups are subhuman and never seem to evolve-- many Europeans, for example, and USAns, as well as many Chinese, and Russians. No country seems exempt from their predations, whether it be from outright military war, or economic war. Although of late, to be fair, the US and European nations have a leg up in this regard on the Russians, and definitely on the Chinese.Their history of rape, torture, and pillage is well-documented, and continues today. They seem unable to rein in their base drives for power, money, sex and petroleum, and even though the planet is critically endangered by their ways, they cannot seem to stop themselves. It is no wonder their "great white hunters" came to Africa to slaughter dozens of thousands of elephants. One could say they are victim of their own circumstances in that the environment that spawned them continually reinforces memes of domination and materialism, but even when they become expatriates in other countries, they continue to demonstrate a complete lack of moral compass. No need to bash the entire race, though. The above does not apply to all citizens of the larger nations (I have met some who have overcome their unfortunate backgrounds), and there are people, usually in smaller countries, who manage to maintain a dignity that is quite remarkable given the dominant operating paradigm of our world nowadays. I think its time to focus--this is a topic about poachers and the absence of strong conservation efforts in Africa.As far as your statement about the US, it was a leader in conservation efforts since the Teddy Roosevelt era and continues to have a strong environmental track record, including education, legislation and enforcement. The US does not allow the wholesale slaughter of any of its endangered species. No but it allows its citizens to go to Africa and shoot canned lions and various other species, like that stupid b*tch who was such as big "hero" shooting a "caged " lion, if she such a good hunter throw her out in the bush on her own with prides of wild lions about with a bow and a water bottle, and let's see how good she is I am not saying I disagree with your post but are there any countries that actually have laws against their citizens hunting big game in other countries? I am genuinely curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Africanteacher Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 We, humans can be so mean and uncouth sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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