Reliable speedtest

[JesseFrank]

As the title says, what's a relaible site for a speedtest.

You will know from my previous topics that I have a love hate relation with Dtac.

So i try the Ookla speedtest.

My Dtac aircard shows me a signal strength of 38%. To the Bangkok server I get ping speed in the 30ms range and download speeds of almost 3 meg and 1,8 meg upload speed.

I insert my AIS 3G card and it shows me a signal strength of 64%. Ping speed to the Bangkok server varies from 40ms to sometimes 277ms. Download speeds are about 1 meg and struggle to complete the test, while upload are around the 2 meg.

What you think ?

[JetsetBkk]

DSL Reports

[JesseFrank]

DSL Reports

Very reliable, as in, doesn't even start.

[JetsetBkk]

DSL Reports

Very reliable, as in, doesn't even start.

Pity, works for me!

You might try the Java version: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?java=1

or one of the others... http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

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[keeniau96]

Testmy.net

Check the options. Note that the speed promised by your ISP (TOT, AIS, etc) is within Thailand only. International speed will be far, far less.

[Pib]

Regarding the different signal strengths and ping times that purely an issue with the networks (AIS and DTAC); nothing to do with the speedtest. The DTAC signal was just stronger than AIS in your area and had better ping time.

Speedtest.net is fine for testing your "local" speed and ping time. But Speedtest.net, which is a flash-based tester, can be easily fooled by local cache servers when doing international speedtesting. DSL Reports is usually reliable testing....testmy.net is another reliable test as they are not easily fooled by cache servers.

And remember, Thai ISP and mobile data providers advertise/sell their "local" speed...the connection speed you get to the DLSAM/nearest tower; international speed is going to be much less because Thai ISPs just don't buy enough international bandwidth for use with their international gateways.

[JesseFrank]

Regarding the different signal strengths and ping times that purely an issue with the networks (AIS and DTAC); nothing to do with the speedtest. The DTAC signal was just stronger than AIS in your area and had better ping time.

Speedtest.net is fine for testing your "local" speed and ping time. But Speedtest.net, which is a flash-based tester, can be easily fooled by local cache servers when doing international speedtesting. DSL Reports is usually reliable testing....testmy.net is another reliable test as they are not easily fooled by cache servers.

And remember, Thai ISP and mobile data providers advertise/sell their "local" speed...the connection speed you get to the DLSAM/nearest tower; international speed is going to be much less because Thai ISPs just don't buy enough international bandwidth for use with their international gateways.

It was just opposite, the ISP with the stronger signal had much worse ping times to Bangkok.

[StefanBBK]

Reliable to me. Just pick a server abroad and you will see realistic results.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[Pib]

Regarding the different signal strengths and ping times that purely an issue with the networks (AIS and DTAC); nothing to do with the speedtest. The DTAC signal was just stronger than AIS in your area and had better ping time.

Speedtest.net is fine for testing your "local" speed and ping time. But Speedtest.net, which is a flash-based tester, can be easily fooled by local cache servers when doing international speedtesting. DSL Reports is usually reliable testing....testmy.net is another reliable test as they are not easily fooled by cache servers.

And remember, Thai ISP and mobile data providers advertise/sell their "local" speed...the connection speed you get to the DLSAM/nearest tower; international speed is going to be much less because Thai ISPs just don't buy enough international bandwidth for use with their international gateways.

It was just opposite, the ISP with the stronger signal had much worse ping times to Bangkok.

My bad...I read you post to fast and it was too early in the morning. Ping time shouldn't be affected by signal strength as long as signal strength is "adequate/meets a minimum level for the device to make a descent connection."

Now download/upload speed can be affected by signal strength but once again how much it's affected is going to depend on the signal strength level, the device you are using, available bandwidth on the particular tower you connecting to, etc. It's not like if one signal is 3db lower than the other that the lower powered signal will automatically have a slower speed. But usually when you start getting 2 or 3 bar strength out of 5 bars you are going to see your speeds significantly reduced...at a signal strength of 4 to 5 bars you probably won't notice any speed change.

[noodle]

I've never been impressed by speed tests, the results do not seem to relate to anything useful.

Sometimes one could be downloading a torrent fairly quickly but can't even get a ping to one's ISP.

Downloading a large file could be useful at times. Such as one of the large files here, or similar:

ftp://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/knoppix/

[rbmcn]

I regularly use Ookla.

[rhythmworx]

http://www.speedtest.net/

Powered by Ookla

and for ping....

http://www.pingtest.net/

Edited June 18, 2014 by rhythmworx

[oTwoPies]

Hi Folks

Please read my comment, #8, in the link:-

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/732792-tot-fibre-optic-vs-true-docsis-cable-which-is-faster/#entry7988556

regarding test sites, speeds etc.

@Noodle:

wpcoe's comments in the link I posted above may go some way to explaining your confusion.

In essence, a torrent is using multiple threads, a video stream (or ping test) is using just one thread. The test results from the Thinkb.... test site are for both average and peak speeds on a single thread, TBBx1, and multiple threads, HTTPx6. As you can see from the first attachment (apologies but sometimes I am just not able to paste pictures into the post), there can be significant differences between the x1 & x6 speeds. In the first attachment the speed difference between the x1 & x6 is eight times for Average and nearly fourteen times for Burst!!

If you are trying to watch a video stream then only a single thread (x1) is in use but if you are downloading a file from a Torrent, or using a download manager, then you should see speed tests results and download times nearer the x6 speeds. The Thinkb.... test results do show a remarkably good correlation between my guest house internet speed and my ability to watch a live video stream from either the beeb or ITV which are UK based websites.

I ran a series of tests on the three speed testers I regularly use:-

http://testmy.net/results

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?flash=1

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html

As soon as one test completed I started the next one in the sequence.

If you look at the speed test results of the second and third attachments you could be extremely confused and easily state the speed testers do not show any correlation to the real world but if you then look at the speed test results in the final attachment I would hope you can see that everything can, and should, begin to make sense

As an aside may I say these speed test results have not been frigged or manipulated in any way.

I am an ex-engineer so results are results irrelevant of how they can be explained however, as I said, I live in a guest house which has a high or even, a very high speed CAT fiber optic internet connection and my international internet speeds are all over the place. The international internet speeds are obvioulsly dependant on the time of day, IIG congestion, what the other guests are downloading and, most probably, a load of other factors. In other words, if asked, I may not be able to easily replicate these results.

[slipperylobster]

Regarding the different signal strengths and ping times that purely an issue with the networks (AIS and DTAC); nothing to do with the speedtest. The DTAC signal was just stronger than AIS in your area and had better ping time.

Speedtest.net is fine for testing your "local" speed and ping time. But Speedtest.net, which is a flash-based tester, can be easily fooled by local cache servers when doing international speedtesting. DSL Reports is usually reliable testing....testmy.net is another reliable test as they are not easily fooled by cache servers.

And remember, Thai ISP and mobile data providers advertise/sell their "local" speed...the connection speed you get to the DLSAM/nearest tower; international speed is going to be much less because Thai ISPs just don't buy enough international bandwidth for use with their international gateways.

Agreed. Also, some website servers are sometimes busy, and your speed slows down anyways. Remember how facebook slowed down right after martial law....for example.....as everyone was trying to use it simultaneously.

[BenCrew]

Very reliable speed test for any TOT users: http://speedtest1.totbb.net/

[schondie]

Testmy.net

Check the options. Note that the speed promised by your ISP (TOT, AIS, etc) is within Thailand only. International speed will be far, far less.

It's very reliable compared to the skewed TOT (my ISP) test my connection website. Far better to change to the Singapore server for the test and see a far more truthful view of what you have and what was offered.

[JetsetBkk]

I've never been impressed by speed tests, the results do not seem to relate to anything useful. Sometimes one could be downloading a torrent fairly quickly but can't even get a ping to one's ISP. Downloading a large file could be useful at times. Such as one of the large files here, or similar: ftp://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/knoppix/

Sometimes it's better to simply monitor what is going on with a program like "Netmeter":

The link above is to the new version 2.0, which I haven't tried.

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[JesseFrank]

Fine, I've tried all the speed-tests mentioned in this thread, and however AIS gives a stronger signal, it gives far worse results over Dtac. That mean, no good solution to replace Dtac and money on sim wasted.

I would like to try Truemove, but when I went to their shop the other day to ask for their package rates, it showed that they don't have any promotions like Dtac and AIS where you get double or triple the allowance.

In fact they were even more expensive for the standard packages.

Of course as we know that most of the staff is only aware of what they have for lunch or dinner, they can have showed me the wrong rates.

Anyone know if there are any promotions going for Truemove prepaid at the moment ?

Edit: another thing I noticed today and also yesterday is that on AIS I most of the time can't use the Ookla test as I get a message, missing license key.

Edited June 18, 2014 by JesseFrank

[ronthai]

Most, same as the ones mentioned above, all depend on FLASH

The ONLY site that does not use flash and is 100% independent is:

http://testmy.net/

They will show your speeds, which are accurate, but probably lower.

Edited June 18, 2014 by ronthai

[Pib]

Most, same as the ones mentioned above, all depend on FLASH

The ONLY site that does not use flash and is 100% independent is:

http://testmy.net/

They will show your speeds, which are accurate, but probably lower.

Yes, testmy.net is accurate, but you will be testing to servers outside of Thailand...therefore you are testing your international speed. If you just want to find out what your local speed is to the tower/DSLAM/etc., using a flash-based speedtester like Speedtest.net or any of the flash-based testers offered by the service providers is fine. You really can't complain to a service provider about international speed because they are only advertising/selling their local speed.

[RandomSand]

... Speedtest.net, which is a flash-based tester, can be easily fooled by local cache servers when doing international speedtesting. DSL Reports is usually reliable testing....testmy.net is another reliable test as they are not easily fooled by cache servers..

Argggh!

It's like ground-hog day.

I think you could have posted this information 15 times already... Don't you get tired of reiterating this?

Sticky needed on the subject if speed-tests.

[JesseFrank]

Today I have been extensively testing my speed using Ookla speedtest to Bangkok server, and with both Dtac and Ais simcard.

I used both the aircard which is a Dtac aircard and my Galaxy note.

The aircard is connected to the router by a 5 meter usb cable so the aircard hangs out of a small window. When testing with the sim in the phone i took position in front of that window.

I notice that using the phone I get remarkable higher test speeds on both sim cards than when in the aircard.

Does that mean that

a : The aircard sucks and I better buy a new one

b : The USB cable reduces the connection

c : The ookla speedtest on the phone and on the computer ought to give different results.

[Pib]

Aircards come in different max 3G speeds just like phones come with different 3G max speed ratings. What is the 3G speed rating of your aircard and of your phone?

Highly unlikely the USB cable itself is causing any speed problem...especially since we are just dealing with 3G speeds. Ookla speedtest wouldn't care whether it's a computer, phone, or aircard...it's purely reporting the speed of the connection.

[JesseFrank]

Aircards come in different max 3G speeds just like phones come with different 3G max speed ratings. What is the 3G speed rating of your aircard and of your phone?

Highly unlikely the USB cable itself is causing any speed problem...especially since we are just dealing with 3G speeds. Ookla speedtest wouldn't care whether it's a computer, phone, or aircard...it's purely reporting the speed of the connection.

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

On the phone I get +3Mb while on the aircard I get hardly above 1 Mb.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

[Pib]

Aircards come in different max 3G speeds just like phones come with different 3G max speed ratings. What is the 3G speed rating of your aircard and of your phone?

Highly unlikely the USB cable itself is causing any speed problem...especially since we are just dealing with 3G speeds. Ookla speedtest wouldn't care whether it's a computer, phone, or aircard...it's purely reporting the speed of the connection.

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

On the phone I get +3Mb while on the aircard I get hardly above 1 Mb.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

Probably just a setup issue with your router/computer/aircard. I know that don't help much, but you may want to play around with settings.

[muratremix]

Aircards come in different max 3G speeds just like phones come with different 3G max speed ratings. What is the 3G speed rating of your aircard and of your phone?

Highly unlikely the USB cable itself is causing any speed problem...especially since we are just dealing with 3G speeds. Ookla speedtest wouldn't care whether it's a computer, phone, or aircard...it's purely reporting the speed of the connection.

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

On the phone I get +3Mb while on the aircard I get hardly above 1 Mb.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

Your phone probably supports 21 or 43 mbit 3.9G

while your Aircard supports 7.2mbit hsupa 3.5G mode.

If you get 21mbit aircard you may see similar speeds with your phone.

[JesseFrank]

Aircards come in different max 3G speeds just like phones come with different 3G max speed ratings. What is the 3G speed rating of your aircard and of your phone?

Highly unlikely the USB cable itself is causing any speed problem...especially since we are just dealing with 3G speeds. Ookla speedtest wouldn't care whether it's a computer, phone, or aircard...it's purely reporting the speed of the connection.

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

On the phone I get +3Mb while on the aircard I get hardly above 1 Mb.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

Your phone probably supports 21 or 43 mbit 3.9G

while your Aircard supports 7.2mbit hsupa 3.5G mode.

If you get 21mbit aircard you may see similar speeds with your phone.

Can you please elaborate on that, because with my tested speed at 1Mb, i still have more than 5 Mb to go before my aircard reaches its limit.

[oTwoPies]

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

There are many fake Aircards in Thailand so I would take your SIMs, Phones and Aircard to Dtac.

Demonstrate the problem and ask them to sort. (In my experience it may be better to test the speed of a Dtac Aircard in the Dtac office feigning a potential purchaser, so they will ensure you have a good connection speed and then demonstrate your problem.)

I have a 3G ZTE MiFi and get speeds of around 3Mb/sec on CAT.

Thinking about it I suspect it is a router setup problem and so I would suggest a first step of testing the Aircard on multiple computers.

You or the router may have set the aircard/router into WISP mode and if this is the case I regularly see speeds around 1/4 of the expected rate and no, I don't know why WISP is so slow. For a very brief explanation of WISP look at the other answer and not the best answer in the link:-

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110514204615AAroqXJ

or look at:-

http://www.tenda.cn/tendacn/Support/show.aspx?articleid=2049

and for a detailed explanation:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Internet_service_provider

FYI: I use my router in WISP mode to overcome various login restrictions but it sure kills the internet speed.

[KhunBENQ]

Testmy.net

Check the options. Note that the speed promised by your ISP (TOT, AIS, etc) is within Thailand only. International speed will be far, far less.

I like this one due to the concept. Simple and comprehensible.

It has useful rate over time diagrams which correspond to a real time monitor I use, a small but useful tool for the taskbar:

NetSpeedMonitor (http://www.floriangilles.com/software/netspeedmonitor/)

Picture from the website:

With such a monitor I can clearly see the huge difference between Thai and international websites.

IPTV from Bangkok servers will drive it up to 20 MBbit/s (ToT FTTx) while German websites creep around 2 to 3 MBit/s.

Edited June 24, 2014 by KhunBENQ

[JesseFrank]

The aircard is a Huawei E173 from Dtac with 7.2Mb speed rating, way above what I test.

Is there difference in quality of aircards, and if so any recommendations ?

There are many fake Aircards in Thailand so I would take your SIMs, Phones and Aircard to Dtac.

Demonstrate the problem and ask them to sort. (In my experience it may be better to test the speed of a Dtac Aircard in the Dtac office feigning a potential purchaser, so they will ensure you have a good connection speed and then demonstrate your problem.)

The aircard is from Dtac, has Dtac written all over it. Asking Dtac to solve the issue ?

What you think I'm doing for the past 3 weeks. By the way Dtac doesn't have a office anymore, at least not in Chonburi province, merely only those booths and all they know is what they had for lunch if it isn't more than 2 hours ago.

There is no wisp setting on my router, only a 3/3,5G setting, and that is what it is set to.

Edited June 24, 2014 by JesseFrank